Tim Tebow Super Bowl Commercial

gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
edited February 2010 in A Moving Train
it seems that cbs is now allowing "advocacy ads" for the super bowl this year. one of these commercials features tim tebow and his mom in an anti-abortion ad...i was ok with the zealot tebow writing bible verses on his eye black during his college games, but i do not agree with cbs allowing this commercial when it would never show anti-war ads, or pro-women's rights or pro gay rights ads. i think they are opening themselves up for a potential firestorm by politicizing the super bowl. the super bowl is not the platform for pushing a religious or political agenda...but i guess if you have the money you can buy an ad...

CBS willing to air more Super Bowl advocacy ads

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

NEW YORK (AP)—CBS responded to complaints over a conservative group’s planned Super Bowl ad featuring football star Tim Tebow by saying that it had eased restrictions on advocacy ads and would consider “responsibly produced” ones for open spots in its Feb. 7 broadcast.

CBS Corp. said Tuesday it had received numerous e-mails—both critical and supportive—since a coalition of women’s groups began a protest campaign Monday against the ad, which the critics say will use Tebow and his mother to convey an anti-abortion message.

Funded by the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family, the 30-second ad is expected to recount the story of Pam Tebow’s pregnancy in 1987. After getting sick during a mission trip to the Philippines, she ignored a recommendation by doctors to abort her fifth child. She later gave birth to Tim, who won the 2007 Heisman Trophy and helped his Florida team win two BCS championships.

CBS said Tuesday that the decision to air the Tebow ad reflected a change in its policies toward advocacy ads that has evolved over the past several years.

“We have for some time moderated our approach to advocacy submissions after it became apparent that our stance did not reflect public sentiment or industry norms,” said spokesman Dana McClintock. “In fact, most media outlets have accepted advocacy ads for some time.”

He said CBS “will continue to consider responsibly produced ads from all groups for the few remaining spots in Super Bowl XLIV.”

In 2004, CBS was criticized by many liberal organizations for rejecting an ad by the United Church of Christ highlighting the UCC’s welcoming stance toward gays and others who might feel shunned by more conservative churches.

CBS said Tuesday that, under its new policies, the UCC ad would have been accepted for airing. The network said that it has run ads in the past year or so with divergent views on topics such as the health care overhaul, climate change and energy policy.

Thirty-second commercials during the Super Bowl are selling for $2.5 million to $2.8 million.

On Monday, a coalition led by the New York-based Women’s Media Center, with backing from the National Organization for Women, the Feminist Majority Foundation and other groups, urged CBS to scrap the Tebow ad.

“An ad that uses sports to divide rather than to unite has no place in the biggest national sports event of the year—an event designed to bring Americans together,” said Jehmu Greene, president of the media center.
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  • JD SalJD Sal Posts: 790
    ...Funded by the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family, the 30-second ad is expected to recount the story of Pam Tebow’s pregnancy in 1987. After getting sick during a mission trip to the Philippines, she ignored a recommendation by doctors to abort her fifth child. She later gave birth to Tim, who won the 2007 Heisman Trophy and helped his Florida team win two BCS championships.

    The hypocritical folks at Focus on the Family are apparently oblivious to the underlying message here - Tim Tebow's mother had a choice. Good for her. She carried the baby full term and her son ended up being a successful collegiate athlete. So will we see a counter ad that Hitler's mom should've had an abortion?
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  • Even though Focus on the Family annoys me, and I disagree with their abortion stance, I couldn't care less about this...

    Issue ads with made up or skewed facts or that kind of stuff are one thing, but Tim and his mother telling a story about her pregnancy doesn't bother me at all.


    I love how there is outrage about this kind of stuff these days when people haven't even seen the ad yet. Reminds me a bit about the Obama school speech. It's like we need to be sheltered from stuff just because we don't agree with it.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Even though Focus on the Family annoys me, and I disagree with their abortion stance, I couldn't care less about this...

    Issue ads with made up or skewed facts or that kind of stuff are one thing, but Tim and his mother telling a story about her pregnancy doesn't bother me at all.


    I love how there is outrage about this kind of stuff these days when people haven't even seen the ad yet. Reminds me a bit about the Obama school speech. It's like we need to be sheltered from stuff just because we don't agree with it.
    i am not outraged. i just disagree with premiering it on the most watched television event of the year. i am willing to bet it will air and we will never see it again....only to prove a point. to me its the point that they are biblefying and politicizing the superbowl. if i wanted that shit i would go to church.

    i also find it irresponsible to advocate undermining your physician and going against medical advice. in this situation it turned out ok, but if she was sick enough where they recommended aborting her baby it could have cost her her own life, not to mention tim's. if tim ended up being some dropout fuck up they would never bother with this, but because of who he is they are making a big deal of it.
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Airing the commercial is a great idea...and should open up the playing field for all kinds of advocacy commercials, rather than "limiting" what we see on television...
  • JD SalJD Sal Posts: 790
    Even though Focus on the Family annoys me, and I disagree with their abortion stance, I couldn't care less about this...

    Issue ads with made up or skewed facts or that kind of stuff are one thing, but Tim and his mother telling a story about her pregnancy doesn't bother me at all.


    I love how there is outrage about this kind of stuff these days when people haven't even seen the ad yet. Reminds me a bit about the Obama school speech. It's like we need to be sheltered from stuff just because we don't agree with it.

    I'm not outraged either. Pro-lifers are entitled to say their piece, and I'm okay with that. The problem here is bias - CBS has a policy on advocacy ads and would not approve the airing of a pro-choice commerical during the Super Bowl.

    "All the national networks, including CBS, have policies that rule out the broadcast of certain types of contentious advocacy ads. In 2004, CBS cited such a policy in rejecting an ad by the liberal-leaning United Church of Christ highlighting the UCC’s welcoming stance toward gays and others who might feel shunned by more conservative churches.

    CBS was criticized for rejecting that ad—and perhaps might have worried about comparable criticism from conservatives if it had rejected an ad featuring such a charismatic and well-known figure as Tebow."
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Even though Focus on the Family annoys me, and I disagree with their abortion stance, I couldn't care less about this...

    Issue ads with made up or skewed facts or that kind of stuff are one thing, but Tim and his mother telling a story about her pregnancy doesn't bother me at all.


    I love how there is outrage about this kind of stuff these days when people haven't even seen the ad yet. Reminds me a bit about the Obama school speech. It's like we need to be sheltered from stuff just because we don't agree with it.

    You're right - we haven't yet seen the ad... so for all we know maybe it does include made up or skewed facts. I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
  • yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    this ad will fit in with all the new Viagra, Ciallis and then YAZ commercials.., its a nice tie in
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  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    It's the Superbowl, all commercials are suppose to be funny......Go Saints!!!
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I want, just once, to see a pro-drug ad.
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I want, just once, to see a pro-drug ad.
    We see them all the time, though - Prescription drugs, that is.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I want, just once, to see a pro-drug ad.
    We see them all the time, though - Prescription drugs, that is.

    Maybe he was speaking of Cannabis? you could have a ad featuring Peter Tosh singing his theme song "Legalize It" in a field of Cannabis. Yeah that could work, it would certainly catch people's eye. ;)

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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    g under p wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I want, just once, to see a pro-drug ad.
    We see them all the time, though - Prescription drugs, that is.

    Maybe he was speaking of Cannabis? you could have a ad featuring Peter Tosh singing his theme song "Legalize It" in a field of Cannabis. Yeah that could work, it would certainly catch people's eye. ;)

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    Yeah, that's a commercial that would make people stop and look, now wouldn't it? :D Which is the ultimate goal of advertising... I'd love to see that!
  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Why is this even news? We're up in arms about a commercial?!?! Sheesh. We (as a nation) need a hobby...
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I want, just once, to see a pro-drug ad.
    We see them all the time, though - Prescription drugs, that is.
    I saw an ad with a kid being offered a joint at a party.. It goes to fast forward mode with him and pills and his life crashing down... Because we all know that everybody that smokes a joint becomes a pill addict...
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  • anothercloneanotherclone Posts: 1,688
    mb262200 wrote:
    It's the Superbowl, all commercials are suppose to be funny......Go Saints!!!

    Maybe Tebow will ride in on one of those huge ass Budwiser horses hollering about babies and whatnot. That'd be awesome funny.

    I'm not hot on the idea of the commercial. I'd like to see if they'll allow a Planned Parenthood commercial as well or something of that nature. Sure as hell, I bet they'd deny it.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    I can see the ad going like this...

    Tebow "The NFL scouts continue to dog me for my long release. But, I'll tell ya, I'm thankful the good Lord has given this burden to bear. Without the blessing of Jesus Christ my Savior and the gift of a long release, there is no way I would have made it through college sticking to my Christian upbringing. Because of my long release I was able to both enjoy my time in college with the ladies I have loved and been able to stay true to my church by not using protection. So, here's to a long release, Florida Beach Babes, and my lord savior Jesus Christ. Enjoy the game. And remember, take it from Tim Tebow, pull out for Jesus."
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I can see the ad going like this...

    Tebow "The NFL scouts continue to dog me for my long release. But, I'll tell ya, I'm thankful the good Lord has given this burden to bear. Without the blessing of Jesus Christ my Savior and the gift of a long release, there is no way I would have made it through college sticking to my Christian upbringing. Because of my long release I was able to both enjoy my time in college with the ladies I have loved and been able to stay true to my church by not using protection. So, here's to a long release, Florida Beach Babes, and my lord savior Jesus Christ. Enjoy the game. And remember, take it from Tim Tebow, pull out for Jesus."
    Well played.
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Is it Jesus some of you have a problem with, or is it the fact Tims mother did not have an abortion?....
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    aerial wrote:
    Is it Jesus some of you have a problem with, or is it the fact Tims mother did not have an abortion?....
    I think it's the fact that if there was a pro-choice ad put on for the Superbowl, or pro-gay marriage, there would be complete outrage on the right, boycotts, etc...

    Personally, I think both points of view should be represented civilly. However, we both know it would be commercial suicide for CBS to air a pro-choice or pro-gay marriage ad on Superbowl Sunday.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    aerial wrote:
    Is it Jesus some of you have a problem with, or is it the fact Tims mother did not have an abortion?....
    I think it's the fact that if there was a pro-choice ad put on for the Superbowl, or pro-gay marriage, there would be complete outrage on the right, boycotts, etc...

    Personally, I think both points of view should be represented civilly. However, we both know it would be commercial suicide for CBS to air a pro-choice or pro-gay marriage ad on Superbowl Sunday.
    +1

    thanks for typing what i was going to say. :mrgreen:
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    aerial wrote:
    Is it Jesus some of you have a problem with, or is it the fact Tims mother did not have an abortion?....
    I think it's the fact that if there was a pro-choice ad put on for the Superbowl, or pro-gay marriage, there would be complete outrage on the right, boycotts, etc...
    Like the outrage on the left

    Personally, I think both points of view should be represented civilly. However, we both know it would be commercial suicide for CBS to air a pro-choice or pro-gay marriage ad on Superbowl Sunday.
    Everyone knows both side. I think this has to do with money...and personally I don't think this, condoms, viagra or any of the other BS they put on tv should be aired....just this minute I heard some guy on tv say this is the "SEX FIEND ERA". I have to agree...
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  • JD SalJD Sal Posts: 790
    I can see the ad going like this...

    Tebow "The NFL scouts continue to dog me for my long release. But, I'll tell ya, I'm thankful the good Lord has given this burden to bear. Without the blessing of Jesus Christ my Savior and the gift of a long release, there is no way I would have made it through college sticking to my Christian upbringing. Because of my long release I was able to both enjoy my time in college with the ladies I have loved and been able to stay true to my church by not using protection. So, here's to a long release, Florida Beach Babes, and my lord savior Jesus Christ. Enjoy the game. And remember, take it from Tim Tebow, pull out for Jesus."

    Well now that wouldn't work, Tim Tebow is a virgin. ;)

    I vote for the pro-drug ad. It could go something like this:

    "Roll, roll, roll your joint
    Gently twist the ends
    Light it up and take a puff
    Then pass it to your friends"
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    aerial wrote:
    Is it Jesus some of you have a problem with, or is it the fact Tims mother did not have an abortion?....


    Well...for me...I just hate Tim Tebow. But I'm still glad his mother didn't have an abortion...I think.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    aerial wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Is it Jesus some of you have a problem with, or is it the fact Tims mother did not have an abortion?....
    I think it's the fact that if there was a pro-choice ad put on for the Superbowl, or pro-gay marriage, there would be complete outrage on the right, boycotts, etc...
    Like the outrage on the left

    Personally, I think both points of view should be represented civilly. However, we both know it would be commercial suicide for CBS to air a pro-choice or pro-gay marriage ad on Superbowl Sunday.
    Everyone knows both side. I think this has to do with money...and personally I don't think this, condoms, viagra or any of the other BS they put on tv should be aired....just this minute I heard some guy on tv say this is the "SEX FIEND ERA". I have to agree...

    Come on, I don't think the outrage we're seeing now is NEARLY the outrage we would see if someone put on an ad saying 'Rest In Peace Dr. Tiller'. You know that.
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,314
    I don't think this a big deal. Whether you agree or not with an issue, a group has the right of free speech and a company such as CBS can decide for its own what to do with anyone potentially paying for advertising. And personally, I'll be so into the game, I doubt I'll even notice when the ad runs.
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    I don't think this a big deal. Whether you agree or not with an issue, a group has the right of free speech and a company such as CBS can decide for its own what to do with anyone potentially paying for advertising. And personally, I'll be so into the game, I doubt I'll even notice when the ad runs.
    I would agree if both groups were allowed to be heard.
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I don't think this a big deal. Whether you agree or not with an issue, a group has the right of free speech and a company such as CBS can decide for its own what to do with anyone potentially paying for advertising. And personally, I'll be so into the game, I doubt I'll even notice when the ad runs.
    I would agree if both groups were allowed to be heard.
    As they should be. That's why I find anything involving being aired around the Super Bowl in particular an utter joke because it must be about "family values". If one thing can be aired, it all should be able to be.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,472
    DeLukin wrote:
    Why is this even news? We're up in arms about a commercial?!?! Sheesh. We (as a nation) need a hobby...
    We have one . Bitching about things we don't like.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    nbc's mike celizic commenting on the tebow add...i agree with most of his points here...


    CBS making huge mistake with Tebow ad
    Will network accept message from atheist group? Probably not

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35088506/ ... bowl_xliv/

    By Mike Celizic
    NBCSports.com contributor
    updated 10:06 p.m. CT, Tues., Jan. 26, 2010

    I know why CBS is running an ad sponsored by Focus on the Family and starring Tim Tebow. It needs the money.

    There is no other reason — and certainly no good reason — for anyone, including a television executive, to decide that the ethical standards which had stood for generations are suddenly no more worth preserving than that hairball the cat just coughed up. Advertising revenues are down throughout the industry, and one way to combat that is to accept ads you used to refuse from organizations dedicated to bigotry and divisiveness.

    And so we get an anti-abortion ad by a homophobic organization during the biggest sporting event of the year. At a time when we’re all sitting together watching the big game, we’ll have another reason to argue and yell at each other.

    Thanks a lot, CBS. Hope it’s worth the $2.5 million.

    CBS will still have standards, except they’ll be based on money and who’ll be upset. Focus on the Family can run its ad because everyone likes Tim Tebow, and the anti-choice agenda is buried underneath the feel-good story of the kid who wasn’t supposed to be born but grew up to be a hero. But neither they nor any other network will take an ad from an atheist group whose message is there is no heaven, no hell and no god. That would tick off the paying customers.

    This makes me wish an atheist organization would do just that. And if not a Super Bowl ad, maybe one college kid could be persuaded to write “There is” and “no God” on his stripes of eye black. Either that or “Allahu” and “Akhbar.”

    Can you imagine the uproar either one of those messages would inspire? The good folks at Fox News would be apoplectic. James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Rick Warren and everyone else who has reaped millions by telling people what God wants them to do would start preparing for the rapture.

    The NCAA, which has turned a blind eye to the biblical messages Tebow inks under his eyes, would need all of three minutes to decide to ban all messages on players’ bodies and equipment.

    Pro leagues have long banned such personal messages. You don’t want to allow them and wait for someone to come up with something that’s going to offend three quarters of the planet.

    This is the real problem with the growing numbers of American sports stars who feel obliged to use what they do as a pulpit. You might think there’s no harm to it, but that’s only because none of them have said anything that steps on your beliefs. It’s a trend we just don’t need.

    Tebow is the poster boy for the breed, which has made him a target for criticism. But he’s not the problem. He’s just doing what he was raised to do, which is to try to make everyone believe the same thing he does.

    If he’s hitched up with Focus on the Family, it suggests he believes in some things that are repugnant to many Americans.

    This is the outfit Tebow has chosen to represent, and that’s his right. His parents are missionaries, and he’s got their holy zeal. Like so many evangelical athletes, he believes that he is obliged to use his fame to spread his beliefs.

    The Super Bowl ad will apparently feature the quarterback and his mother, who was advised to abort the pregnancy that resulted in his birth. But she refused, and, lo, unto her a quarterback was born. It will no doubt be a very heartwarming spot. I guess the point is that if Tebow’s mother had followed the doctors’ advice, the world would have been deprived of a desperately needed football player and there would not have been a Heisman Trophy winner in 2007.

    The Super Bowl doesn’t need it, and neither do we.

    You want to stuff your religion down my throat, have the decency to come and ring my doorbell like a good Mormon or Jehovah’s Witness. Then I can at least share with you my own fervently held belief:

    You are a presumptuous and pompous gasbag.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    I'd like to see them air a commercial by the doc who they're accusing of telling the mom to abort. Seems only fair to let him tell his side of the story.
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