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Is 'Ten' really the 11th greatest rock album of all time?

muppetmuppet Posts: 980
edited November 2008 in The Porch
http://www.rockhall.com/pressroom/definitive-200

It's a classic, but 11th? It's popular and influential certinally but not to the extent that it's better than Born To Run, Who's Next or Appetite for Destruction.

Aint even the best Pearl Jam record!
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    In the eyes of every non-obsessed fan it is their best record.
  • TT98TT98 Posts: 135
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    In the eyes of every non-obsessed fan it is their best record.

    that is true, was my fav when I first started listening to pearl jam back in 04, now it barely makes top 5.
  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    In the eyes of every non-obsessed fan it is their best record.
    also know as fans who never gave anything after vitalogy a chance... imo, ten is classic for sure. You cannot deny the greatness of the songs, but Id say it's my 7th favorite pj album and I don't think I've given it a spin in like 5 years!
    Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
  • Dirt Like MeDirt Like Me Posts: 204
    Faith Hill made their list. The list is shit. Ten is a great record and certainly in the top five of the 1990s, but when we're talking on an all-time, Dylan, Beatles, kind of level- it makes the top 30 for me- at best.
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  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Posts: 3,371
    That list is pretty good...there's a few that shouldn't be on there at all.

    Who's Next should definitely be top ten.

    Coldplay, while I do enjoy their first two albums, should not be on the list.



    and....
    Ten>nevermind.
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  • canadajammercanadajammer Posts: 263
    I had no idea 50 Cent's 'Get Rich or Die Trying' was a better album than Pearl Jam's 'Yield'.
  • LiteTheMatchLiteTheMatch Posts: 1,208
    Thriller isn't rock and roll!
    A child's rhyme stuck in my head...
    It said "Life is nothing but a dream."
    I've spent so many years in question
    To find I'd known this all along.
  • LiteTheMatchLiteTheMatch Posts: 1,208
    and The Doors album should be in the top 10 in my opinion!
    A child's rhyme stuck in my head...
    It said "Life is nothing but a dream."
    I've spent so many years in question
    To find I'd known this all along.
  • TT98TT98 Posts: 135
    LiteTheMatch wrote:
    Thriller isn't rock and roll!

    20% of the list isnt rock n roll... lol
  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Posts: 4,895
    1. only Ten is on the list and shit bags like Eminem are on there twice?

    2. nice all encompassing list, but a shitty list at best.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,158
    That is literally the worst albums list I've ever seen. They put an Eminem and Shania Twain album before the "White Album"!?!?!?!
    severed hand thirteen
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  • LoveBoatAdmiralLoveBoatAdmiral Posts: 1,191
    The Dixie Chicks have, count em, 3 records on the list. I didn't even know they put out 3 albums.
    2006- Boston I
    2008- Boston I+II
    2009- Toronto, Philly III+IV
    2010- Bristow, Hartford, Boston, Newark
  • youngsteryoungster Posts: 6,576
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    1. only Ten is on the list and shit bags like Eminem are on there twice?

    2. nice all encompassing list, but a shitty list at best.

    Eminem might be on there twice, but I can't argue with Led Zepp having 6 of their 9 albums on the list.
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

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  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,335
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    In the eyes of every non-obsessed fan it is their best record.

    So true! I agree Ten is not there best record...I really love Riot Act and the self-titled Avocado Cd the best.

    And that list is crap. How can Pearl Jam only have one record in the top 200 when shit like Celine Dion, Eminem and Dixie Chicks is on there?
    8/29/00, 7/3/03, 5/24/06,6/28/08 & 6/30/08, 10/9/09,10/28/09, 10/30/09 & 10/31/09, 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10 & 5/21/10, 10/23/10 & 10/24/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 9/11/11, 9/12/11, 9/23/11, 9/22/12, 9/30/12, 7/16/13, 7/19/13
  • NoelMichaelNoelMichael Posts: 1,635
    You're right, it shouldn't be 11... It should be 10
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  • gozzo5058gozzo5058 Posts: 611
    it should be the tenth...LOL
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  • phillyfanphillyfan Posts: 831
    yeah buddy
    If you hate something dont you do it too
    world fucking champs!!!
  • rival.rival. Posts: 7,775
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    In the eyes of every non-obsessed fan it is their best record.

    very true.

    ten is a bottom of the barrel PJ album for me.
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    LiteTheMatch wrote:
    Thriller isn't rock and roll!
    "Beat It" is a great rock song btw. ;)
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  • jasonwjasonw Posts: 390
    My main issue with this list is the rap albums. Not that there are rap albums on the list, but just the ones they picked and how they sequenced them. Nelly being above Nas, NWA, PE and Jay-Z? come on! And as for Emimen I think The Slim Shady LP is his best. I could see people arguing that Marshell Matthews is better, but The Eminem Show? Fuck that.
  • vedder_soupvedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    ummm what about the inclusion of:
    50 Cent
    WHITNEY HOUSTON
    CELINE DION
    SOUNDTRACK – TITANIC
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    MARIAH CAREY
    ENYA
    BOYZ II MEN
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    2006 - Reading Festival,
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    2008 - MSG x2, Hartford, Mansfield x2, Beacon Theater,
    2009 - Melbourne, Sydney,
    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
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    2012 - Manchester x 2, Amsterdam x2, Prague, Berlin x2, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen,
    2014 - Sydney, EV Sydney x3

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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    Where is Nickleback?
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  • angryyoungmanangryyoungman Posts: 1,028
    singularity wrote:
    very true.

    ten is a bottom of the barrel PJ album for me.
    blasphemy. . .did you forget what got you into pj in the first place? for most fans anyway
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  • anakin_pdxanakin_pdx Posts: 390
    I agree this list is crap. Although I love seeing the nod to PJ so high, I don't believe Ten should be above albums like The Doors. I like Santana, but #13??? Also how can Radiohead OK Computer be #111?

    I think the main problem with the list is that it's a list of most influential AND best selling. It should just be most influential. Sure sales can factor into influence, but it obviously put albums on this list that are in no way influential.

    I'm surprised there's no Britney Spears...
  • angryyoungmanangryyoungman Posts: 1,028
    anakin_pdx wrote:
    I agree this list is crap. Although I love seeing the nod to PJ so high, I don't believe Ten should be above albums like The Doors. I like Santana, but #13??? Also how can Radiohead OK Computer be #111?

    I think the main problem with the list is that it's a list of most influential AND best selling. It should just be most influential. Sure sales can factor into influence, but it obviously put albums on this list that are in no way influential.

    I'm surprised there's no Britney Spears...
    pj is better than the doors. . .hate to break it to you kids
    i have wished for so long, how i wish for you today
    JEFFREY ROSS ROGERS 1975-2002

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    finally, FUCK TICKETMASTER
  • anakin_pdxanakin_pdx Posts: 390
    angryyoungman wrote:
    pj is better than the doors. . .hate to break it to you kids

    Yeah. I love Pearl Jam, and I think they are better than The Doors. But the argument is most influential album. Not which band is better or even which album is better.
  • Back_PedalBack_Pedal Posts: 1,171
    Kid Rock and Green Day also made the list. Shit list is shit.
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  • Jesika537Jesika537 Posts: 301
    angryyoungman wrote:
    pj is better than the doors. . .hate to break it to you kids

    Second that... I like the Doors, but they are seriously overrated.
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  • Jesika537Jesika537 Posts: 301
    muppet wrote:
    http://www.rockhall.com/pressroom/definitive-200
    Appetite for Destruction

    Huh??? Guns N' Roses is garbage. I won't even justify that list by looking at it, but YOU have to be kidding, right?
    Detroit '98 - Detroit '03 - Toledo '04 - Grand Rapids '04 - Kitchener '05 - London '05 - Grand Rapids '06 - Cleveland '06 - Detroit '06 - Chicago '07 - West Palm Beach - Tampa '08 - Toronto '09 - Indy '10 - Buffalo '10 - Toronto '11 - London '13
  • NoOne'sRivalNoOne'sRival Posts: 299
    whaddya want from COMMERCIALISM? You expect more? That's why PJ's songs are not heard on radio stations OTHER THAN "TEN"! Was it an incredible album? Undeniably! but we are chosen few (or many according to my 10c number!) that chose to listen to ALL PJ has to offer daily...helll, HOURLY..some day's it's ALL I LISTEN TO! because I know PJ is all that will help me make it through the day....
    Seriously, you expect more from lists?? -- BEST SINGER, everyone had issues on that because ED wasn't even included..now this? ... let the world have their crap "music" put together by corporate suits...we can keep our PJ just the way they are...

    And I know we're a bit demanding, but we CAN"T WAIT for the next album guys!!
    Anyone have any idea on what it will be like?
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