yeah, insurance is easy to get.....
Pepe Silvia
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talking to my roommate today, her employer doesn't offer it so she tried to get it from blue cross & blue shield....she said the only she checked yes to was that she has an inhaler, she has had asthma since she was a kid. because of this preexisting condition the lowest monthly premium they will offer her is $427!!
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i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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welcome to the american healthcare system.. :evil:
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when we're spending 2 trillion on war something is not right.
I lold.
but seriously. that sucks :(
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yea, but, but, but.....she CAN.....GET it.
just b/c she CAN'T AFFORD it. well that's on her, right? the system is fine, it's just 99.8% of it's users are apparently fucked up.
i hate this shit.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
There still are some.... and all of those poo-pooing it have decent jobs and relatively inexpensive health care.
It'ss just never going to happen in this country... there are just too many groups so entrenched in our current system, and too many people who make so much money off of it to change anything.
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It's truly a shock and shame that the public option has been denied. We're in for quite a future, living in the U.S.
Pepe, I'm sorry about your roommate.
Out of all the people who are full time workers in the good ole USA...
How many of them are offered some type of health insurance through their company???
What is the percentage?? 50%?? 60%?? 70%??? 80%??
What is the average cost (weekly, monthly) for healthcare for people who are getting insurance through their employer??
single coverage? average cost??
family coverage?? average cost??
Thanks...I am too lazy to search this computer for answers....hehehehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
So I really don't understand why we don't have universal insurance... there's no perfect system for it but every other country has worked it out, so why can't we? That plus the war are what piss me off the most when it comes to our politics.
I am unemployed with no health insurance, and I am opposed (or poo-pooing if you like) to the plan being debated in DC. So I guess I would disagree with your statement. I would much rather continue on without insurance than be stuck in a government plan.
Can I ask you why?
What would you do if something really bad hit you? For example, a little while back, my husband had a very severe stroke, 7 months in hospital and neuro-rehab (a couple of months were in intensive care), then home with an Occupational Therapist, Speech & Language therapist and physiotherapist sorting him out (this for about a year). I have not paid a penny for this and have not had to worry about the best care my husband could get. He also gets more than enough money to be able to pay for a full time carer and others who can help with him regaining his skills or just help with what he used to do (eg a handyman, a gardener, etc.). He worked when he had his stroke (and I work), but it would have had the same if he didn't as we don't have private insurance.
As you stand now, what would happen to you if this happened? Would your family be trying to find funds to pay for your surgery, your time in intensive care and normal care. Would you get 3 months of neuro-rehab so you can function again? I know you won't because it happened to someone I know in the US. It's tough for him and his family. And he worked and had insurance... but the fine print of these insurances are what one needs to look at.
National Health is far from perfect, but when you don't have to worry if you have enough money to see a doctor, a specialist. Not to worry about physio, etc. if you have a broken bone, etc. it is a real relief.
ummmm...... OK. :? Though you might want to check out your history again. Whilst the Nazi party wanted to develop the idea of socialism, their policies had absolutely nothing to do with them. Yes, there is the word socialism but hey... just brush up on Hitler and you'll understand.
You do realise that National health is paid for via taxes. So really, your neighbour is not paying. And you've read all about the NHS in the UK and think it's more frightening to be able to get the care that my husband got/has than not having insurance and therefore being either dead or in a vegetative state. Ummmmmm..... OK :?
I hope you don't get sick or have an accident or a medical emergency until you can afford to buy insurance. Oh, and of course your insurance needs to cover all of your needs (a lot of employees are under-insured), that you don't have any pre-existing conditions (ie. if you have a pre-existing 'condition' of high blood pressure maybe if you have a stroke you won't be covered!).
I lived in countries without national health and some with - I'll take 'with' any time.
Does this 'your neighbour not paying' extend to any benefit such as unemployment, etc?
So you would rather pay 100s of dollars a month to insurance to cover your heath care than pay half(or less) of that to taxes to cover the actual cost. YOU would actaully like to give your money away to a middle man who is raping you of your money???? Sounds brilliant
I can't fathom why so many Americans think insurance companies are a good idea??? You have bought into the bullshit media job these money grabbers have been sending you for years. Quit being so gullible.
And you are socialist, you just don't know it.
How do you figure? If my neighbor is not paying, then who is? My neighbors pay taxes, so therefore they are paying. There seems to be a mindset amongst liberals that our money really belongs to the government, and that we should be happy with what they "allow" us to keep. Taxes are paid by people. That is how the government gets their money. I don't know how anyone could be confused by such a simple concept.
"I hope you don't get sick or have an accident or a medical emergency until you can afford to buy insurance. Oh, and of course your insurance needs to cover all of your needs (a lot of employees are under-insured), that you don't have any pre-existing conditions (ie. if you have a pre-existing 'condition' of high blood pressure maybe if you have a stroke you won't be covered!)."
Would you expect a car insurance company to insure a car you just wrecked? People with pre-existing conditions SHOULD pay more for their insurance. If I had a bunch of tickets or accidents or DUI's, my auto insurance would be more expensive. If I was a professional skydiving instructor, my life insurance would be more expensive.
"Does this 'your neighbour not paying' extend to any benefit such as unemployment, etc?" Yes it does. I do not receive unemployment. I do not believe that the government should be playing Robin Hood.
You must be a socialist, therefore akin to Hitler
Dearie me...... Of course your neighbour pays taxes and so will you when you are a productive member of society (or already have paid taxes if you worked). And yes... taxes go in a pot and elected government do as they see fit. Wake up to reality.
And at the risk of repeating myself... hope nothing happens to you until you can afford to see a doctor.
I don't really think insurance companies are a good idea. In fact, I would prefer if basic medical care was provided on a cash-for-service basis, and everyone just had a catastrophic insurance policy. It would keep costs under control. Government fucks up everything they touch. I used to work for the IRS so I have been on that side of things. The IRS seized a very successful whore house in Nevada because the owners did not pay their taxes. Do you know what happened? They had to shut it down because it started losing money. Yes, that's right, the GOVERNMENT COULDN'T SELL PUSSY AND WHISKEY IN NEVADA!!!! Good luck when they run your health care!
This country was founded on the ideals of limited government, low taxes, and self-reliance. There is nothing wrong with a desire to return to those principles. I understand that these concepts are not familiar to some because the schools do a poor job, but it is what I believe in.
But if anything happens to you, who do you think will be paying for your health care? Your neighbors, that's who. And if you get the flu or some other communicable illness because you don't have medical coverage for vaccinations, etc., it doesn't just hurt you, it hurts your neighbors as well.
But these concepts will be understood by your kids as you will be paying for them to go to private schools as you do not want the neighbour to pay for your kids' education should they be going to state schools (state and local taxes but *gasp* federal mandate). After all, it would be your neighbour's tax money paying for these state schools. Is that socialism, like Hitler too?
Sorry.... disgressing. Back to health care.