China to be host of Global Peace Concert for Earth Day

Jeanwah

This was on The Porch too (because of the chance of PJ being there), but I find the whole idea of this Earth Day Peace Concert held in China pretty questionable, with their issues with Tibet (far from peaceful) and their pollution record (they tie with the U.S. being the highest in the world).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100113/en ... 0113165333

Led Zeppelin's Page, Aerosmith to play free China gig

Wed Jan 13, 11:30 am ET

BEIJING (AFP) – Legendary Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page, Aerosmith, and the Black Eyed Peas will headline a free April concert on Beijing's Olympic Green, promoters said Wednesday.

The "Show of Peace," is scheduled for April 17 to mark Earth Day, which is celebrated each year to promote awareness of environmental issues, promoter Rick Garson said.

He called it the first-ever global peace and environment concert in China featuring world famous celebrities and musicians.

"Tickets are free. You can't charge for peace and green. It is going to be for everybody, it's like China's gift to the world and the people," Garson told reporters.

"What we are going to do is raise money, obviously, from sponsorship, international distribution, merchandising, Internet, ringtones, DVDs, CDs. That's how we are doing it, it is being self-funded as we speak."

Organisers were also talking with other artists about performing, such as Pearl Jam, Lady Gaga, Green Day, and 50 Cent, while numerous Chinese musicians were being brought in too, he said.

Organisers hope the concert will be beamed live around the world via television and the Internet to mark this year's 40th anniversary of Earth Day.

"My belief in music as a universal language is the reason I returned to Beijing to voice my support for the Show of Peace," said Page, who performed the Led Zeppelin classic "Whole Lotta Love" at the closing ceremony of the Beijing Olympics last year.

"This (concert) is a tribute to the power of music and its positive effect. Music has been one of the most powerful languages that speaks to the heart of the people around the world."

Sponsors include the Chinese People?s Association for Friendship with Foreign Countries, the China-based non-profit Joint-US China Collaboration on Clean Energy, the United Nations? NGO Pathways to Peace, and Ted Turner's Captain Planet Foundation.

The Olympic Green is the park encompassing key venues built for the 2008 Olympics including the Bird's Nest Olympic stadium.

Discussions were under way on the numbers of concert-goers who will be allowed to attend, which organisers hoped would number up to 100,000, Garson said.

g under p

This sounds like a great idea, free concerts like these should be happening ALL around the world. My friend Michael Franti has been giving free concerts on or around 9/11 since 1999, now with a $5 donation. Here's a bit more on his Power To The Peaceful Concert in San Francisco also concerts in California State Prisons @ the New Folsom Prison.



Peace

Jeanwah

g under p wrote:

This sounds like a great idea, free concerts like these should be happening ALL around the world. My friend Michael Franti has been giving free concerts on or around 9/11 since 1999, now with a $5 donation. Here's a bit more on his Power To The Peaceful Concert in San Francisco also concerts in California State Prisons @ the New Folsom Prison.



Peace

I do like the idea of a free concert, just puzzled by the idea of having it in China...and it's supposed to be about peace and being green.

Anyway, I've always wished I could go to Franti's festival, and I'm still pining for that hoodie with that Power to the Peaceful graphic on it. I just love it!

Commy

Jeanwah wrote:

g under p wrote:

This sounds like a great idea, free concerts like these should be happening ALL around the world. My friend Michael Franti has been giving free concerts on or around 9/11 since 1999, now with a $5 donation. Here's a bit more on his Power To The Peaceful Concert in San Francisco also concerts in California State Prisons @ the New Folsom Prison.



Peace

I do like the idea of a free concert, just puzzled by the idea of having it in China...and it's supposed to be about peace and being green.

Anyway, I've always wished I could go to Franti's festival, and I'm still pining for that hoodie with that Power to the Peaceful graphic on it. I just love it!

actually china's a more peaceful nation, when you get down to it. they haven't invaded anybody in what? 50 years? 100? that's more than can be said of europe and the United States.

Jeanwah

Commy wrote:

actually china's a more peaceful nation, when you get down to it. they haven't invaded anybody in what? 50 years? 100? that's more than can be said of europe and the United States.

So you think that their relationship with Tibet could be considered "peaceful"?

CJMST3K

Commy wrote:

they haven't invaded anybody in what? 50 years? 100?

give them time.

Commy

Jeanwah wrote:

Commy wrote:

actually china's a more peaceful nation, when you get down to it. they haven't invaded anybody in what? 50 years? 100? that's more than can be said of europe and the United States.

So you think that their relationship with Tibet could be considered "peaceful"?

more peaceful 'relative' to the US or europe and NATO.


and considering invasions, tibet still stands fallujah does not.

Jeanwah

Commy wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Commy wrote:

actually china's a more peaceful nation, when you get down to it. they haven't invaded anybody in what? 50 years? 100? that's more than can be said of europe and the United States.

So you think that their relationship with Tibet could be considered "peaceful"?

more peaceful 'relative' to the US or europe and NATO.


and considering invasions, tibet still stands fallujah does not.

Do you know anything about Tibet Commy? Come on. You're defending China?

Commy

Jeanwah wrote:

Do you know anything about Tibet Commy? Come on. You're defending China?

all i've said is china is more peaceful than the US or europe

Jeanwah

Commy wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Do you know anything about Tibet Commy? Come on. You're defending China?

all i've said is china is more peaceful than the US or europe

Perhaps they appear that way, but with the takeover of neighboring territories, I'd hardly say that they're more peaceful.

Commy

Jeanwah wrote:

Commy wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Do you know anything about Tibet Commy? Come on. You're defending China?

all i've said is china is more peaceful than the US or europe

Perhaps they appear that way, but with the takeover of neighboring territories, I'd hardly say that they're more peaceful.

as far as countries go china is peaceful. all of europe and the united states are more violent.


china has taken over a territory, the United States has taken over the world, spreading its capitalism violently. so its always been.

CJMST3K

Commy wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Do you know anything about Tibet Commy? Come on. You're defending China?

all i've said is china is more peaceful than the US or europe

Inside their borders or outside? I assume you mean outside.

Which is more peaceful inside their borders?
Which delivers more humanitarian aid?
Which is for more free speech?

Commy

CJMST3K wrote:

Commy wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Do you know anything about Tibet Commy? Come on. You're defending China?

all i've said is china is more peaceful than the US or europe

Inside their borders or outside? I assume you mean outside.

Which is more peaceful inside their borders?
Which delivers more humanitarian aid?
Which is for more free speech?

waco ring a bell? ruby ridge?

Jeanwah

Commy wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

Inside their borders or outside? I assume you mean outside.

Which is more peaceful inside their borders?
Which delivers more humanitarian aid?
Which is for more free speech?

waco ring a bell? ruby ridge?

You really think there's going to be a lot of Free Speech going on at this concert in April? With their current regime?? Are they aiding Haiti? Better yet, have they ever come to the aid of other countries in turmoil? (They did aid Indonesia after the tsunami in 2004).

CJMST3K

Commy wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

Commy wrote:

all i've said is china is more peaceful than the US or europe

Inside their borders or outside? I assume you mean outside.

Which is more peaceful inside their borders?
Which delivers more humanitarian aid?
Which is for more free speech?

waco ring a bell? ruby ridge?

yup, it does.

(US) Waco = 75 dead
(US) Ruby Ridge = a few dead (i cannot find an accurate number)


Does Tiananmen Square ring a bell?

(China) Tiananmen Square = 300 dead



Lets also look at death penalty estimates, since that occurs steadily every year:

2008 (US) Death Penalty = 37
2008 (China) Death Penalty = 1,700 according to Amnesty International (though Dui Hua Foundation say it's at least 5,000)

TriumphantAngel

CJMST3K wrote:

Commy wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

Inside their borders or outside? I assume you mean outside.

Which is more peaceful inside their borders?
Which delivers more humanitarian aid?
Which is for more free speech?

waco ring a bell? ruby ridge?

yup, it does.

(US) Waco = 75 dead
(US) Ruby Ridge = a few dead (i cannot find an accurate number)


Does Tiananmen Square ring a bell?

(China) Tiananmen Square = 300 dead



Lets also look at death penalty estimates, since that occurs steadily every year:

2008 (US) Death Penalty = 37
2008 (China) Death Penalty = 1,700 according to Amnesty International (though Dui Hua Foundation say it's at least 5,000)

don't forget the 3300 US death row inmates that we are currently waiting to murder. there time will come. i'm sure our yearly killing figures would be a lot higher if we disposed of those people as quickly as the chinese do. we still kill them eventually, just takes us longer to do it.

and whether we like it or not, we should be judged on our actions outside our borders. some of the things we do, we're a disgrace.

Edit to add: just to be clear, i don't condone some of Chinas actions either, and before anyone suggests it, no, i do not wish to move there :? , i just think that sometimes we have to be honest and look in our own backyard when we are quick to criticize others.

Byrnzie

Jeanwah wrote:

...just puzzled by the idea of having it in China...and it's supposed to be about peace and being green.

Which is precisely why they should stage it in China - in the belly of the beast!

Byrnzie

Jeanwah wrote:

So you think that their relationship with Tibet could be considered "peaceful"?

Could America's relationship with the Middle East be considered "peaceful"?

Byrnzie

Jeanwah wrote:

Are they aiding Haiti?

Yes, they are.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2010- ... 806338.htm

China sends rescue team to quake-hit Haiti, donates one million dollars

Jeanwah wrote:

Better yet, have they ever come to the aid of other countries in turmoil?

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010 ... 322317.htm
China's rescue team in Haiti for 15-day mission
By Xie Jingwei (chinadaily.com.cn)
2010-01-14



China's National Earthquake Disaster Emergency Rescue Team arrived at the Port-au-Prince International Airport in Haiti on Thursday. [Photo/Xinhua]

China's National Earthquake Disaster Emergency Rescue Team has arrived in the quake-devastated country of Haiti Thursday to conduct a 15-day rescue mission.

The charted Air China plane carrying the 60-strong team arrived at the Port-au-Prince International Airport before the dawn on Thursday local time, according to Airplane Operating Control Center of Air China.

The team consists of search and rescue personnel and three sniffer dogs, Liu Xiangyang, deputy chief of the National Earthquake Disaster Emergency Rescue Team, told Xinhua at the Beijing Capital International Airport before leaving.

Provisions such as food and medicine carried with the team can sustain its operation in the country for 15 days. Rescuers also need to rest after 15 days of work over health and safety concerns. The team is equipped with advanced acoustics, optics and infrared facilities, according to a cnr.cn report.

It is the sixth time the Chinese rescue team has carried out an overseas mission since 2001.

A 7.0-magnitude earthquake hit Haiti Tuesday, collapsing a hospital and damaging buildings in its capital city of Port-au-Prince, and may have caused tens of thousands of deaths...'

Jeanwah

Byrnzie wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

So you think that their relationship with Tibet could be considered "peaceful"?

Could America's relationship with the Middle East be considered "peaceful"?

This is the second response to my question regarding China being peaceful where the response is not a direct answer, but refers to the U.S. I'm not talking about peace in the U.S., we all know we're not that peaceful internally, nor with other nations. I'm talking about China, here.

Byrnzie

Jeanwah wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

So you think that their relationship with Tibet could be considered "peaceful"?

Could America's relationship with the Middle East be considered "peaceful"?

This is the second response to my question regarding China being peaceful where the response is not a direct answer, but refers to the U.S. I'm not talking about peace in the U.S., we all know we're not that peaceful internally, nor with other nations. I'm talking about China, here.

So you choose to apply different standards to China than those you apply to the U.S. Why is that?