Kidney Stones

pearljgirl2010pearljgirl2010 Posts: 3,428
edited January 2010 in All Encompassing Trip
I'm curious to find out if anyone else here has had kidney stones. I've had them 3 times, the most recently last night, then back in 2005, and first in 1998...I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy!!

If you have had them, have you had any luck with diet/vitamins/etc to help stop them? Unfortunately, mine have never been analyzed, so I don't know exactly what's caused them...
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  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    I think too much calcium is one cause. At least, that's what my friend was told years ago when he had them.
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  • How do you know when you have a kidney stone? You're just on the toilet, and suddenly it starts to hurt like hell...? :?
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    I thought that was a man thing... Guess not.
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  • jimed14 wrote:
    I think too much calcium is one cause. At least, that's what my friend was told years ago when he had them.

    you're right...calcium deposits. and, i believe a urologist told me that the type of calcium that's found in cranberry juice is one of the main types that causes kidney stones...he told me to stick with pomegranate or blueberry juices.
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  • How do you know when you have a kidney stone? You're just on the toilet, and suddenly it starts to hurt like hell...? :?


    it's similar to a urinary tract infection, but with excruciating lower back/kidney pain...and i've also had nausea, sweating, chills...hurts to breathe, move, lay down, etc...

    It used to be that the demographic who gets them is middle-aged men, but more recently, a lot of children and women are getting them...
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  • rival.rival. Posts: 7,775
    i had these fuckers about 4 years ago. went to key west with my girlfriend... flew home late friday night, woke up early saturday AM (probably no more than 4 hours after we landed) feeling like someone beat the crap out of me with a baseball bat. most pain i've ever experienced in my life. i couldn't move, i was paralyzed. i thought it was my apendix so i was freaking out that the thing was going to burst inside me, so i got rushed to the hospital in an ambulance and turns out they were kidney stones.

    a few days passed and i wasn't able to pass them, so i had to go in for the surgery which was just an awful experience. use your imagination as to how they get them out of guys.

    the cause can be debated. i have a history of kidney stones in my family and my doctor tells me there is no true medical conclusion that they are hereditary just yet, but more and more doctors are starting to lean in that direction. my stone got sent out for testing an it was all calcium (as i think like 90% are), so it very well could have just been my diet.
  • rival.rival. Posts: 7,775
    How do you know when you have a kidney stone? You're just on the toilet, and suddenly it starts to hurt like hell...? :?

    oh, you will know when you have a stone.
  • The most pain I have ever been in! :(
    My girlfriend had to rush me to the emergency room 2 months ago
    because I felt like I was dying. The pain was unbearable and I couldn't
    stop vomiting.
    Most people think that when you have a kidney stone or infection that it
    will only hurt in the kidney area on your back. WRONG.
    My kidney was hurting and it felt like i was being stabbed in the front right side
    of my stomach.

    I have had this problem 3 times in the last 6-8 years.
    Never had one analyzed either.

    Wouldn't wish that kind of pain on anybody.
  • i had these fuckers about 4 years ago. went to key west with my girlfriend... flew home late friday night, woke up early saturday AM (probably no more than 4 hours after we landed) feeling like someone beat the crap out of me with a baseball bat. most pain i've ever experienced in my life. i couldn't move, i was paralyzed. i thought it was my apendix so i was freaking out that the thing was going to burst inside me, so i got rushed to the hospital in an ambulance and turns out they were kidney stones.

    a few days passed and i wasn't able to pass them, so i had to go in for the surgery which was just an awful experience. use your imagination as to how they get them out of guys.

    the cause can be debated. i have a history of kidney stones in my family and my doctor tells me there is no true medical conclusion that they are hereditary just yet, but more and more doctors are starting to lean in that direction. my stone got sent out for testing an it was all calcium (as i think like 90% are), so it very well could have just been my diet.

    UGH...I feel realllly bad for guys who get them :-( It really is the most painful thing ever. I was 18 the first time, and all of the ER nurses told me that it was like childbirth....yowzers!

    Both of my brothers have had them, and we recently discovered that my grandfather had them too...seems strange for all 3 of us to have them and it NOT be somewhat hereditary.
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  • The most pain I have ever been in! :(
    My girlfriend had to rush me to the emergency room 2 months ago
    because I felt like I was dying. The pain was unbearable and I couldn't
    stop vomiting.
    [b]Most people think that when you have a kidney stone or infection that it
    will only hurt in the kidney area on your back. WRONG.
    My kidney was hurting and it felt like i was being stabbed in the front right side
    of my stomach.[/b]

    I have had this problem 3 times in the last 6-8 years.
    Never had one analyzed either.

    Wouldn't wish that kind of pain on anybody.


    YES! That was me last night..not only did it feel like my lower left back was getting beat with a baseball bat, but i was also being stabbed in the front right side at the same time.
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  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    The worst pain I ever had. I've only had them once. I'm a man and I almost cried I believe in the hospital. Passing them was really bad and every chick I know said things like, now you know how it feels to give birth. I stopped eating eggplant which caused mine.
  • rival.rival. Posts: 7,775
    UGH...I feel realllly bad for guys who get them :-( It really is the most painful thing ever. I was 18 the first time, and all of the ER nurses told me that it was like childbirth....yowzers!

    Both of my brothers have had them, and we recently discovered that my grandfather had them too...seems strange for all 3 of us to have them and it NOT be somewhat hereditary.

    exactly. at a certain point, you just have to point in that direction as a cause.

    i am just so thankful, i didn't go through all of that in key west. or even worse... on the plane home! i would have needed an emergency landing. i seriously thought i was going to die.
  • marcos wrote:
    The worst pain I ever had. I've only had them once. I'm a man and I almost cried I believe in the hospital. Passing them was really bad and every chick I know said things like, now you know how it feels to give birth. I stopped eating eggplant which caused mine.


    eggplant...really??? That's interesting..I'll have to do some more research, although I don't eat eggplant. and I'm amazed that you DIDN'T cry...I'm a tough cookie, but these things turn me into a crying mess :roll:
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  • The most pain I have ever been in! :(
    My girlfriend had to rush me to the emergency room 2 months ago
    because I felt like I was dying. The pain was unbearable and I couldn't
    stop vomiting.
    [b]Most people think that when you have a kidney stone or infection that it
    will only hurt in the kidney area on your back. WRONG.
    My kidney was hurting and it felt like i was being stabbed in the front right side
    of my stomach.[/b]

    I have had this problem 3 times in the last 6-8 years.
    Never had one analyzed either.

    Wouldn't wish that kind of pain on anybody.


    YES! That was me last night..not only did it feel like my lower left back was getting beat with a baseball bat, but i was also being stabbed in the front right side at the same time.
    REALLY SORRY that you are having the "stabbing in the stomach" pain.
    I am 33. And that is the only pain I have ever felt that just brings me to my knees.
    When I try to explain to my girlfriend how bad it hurts on my stomach she thinks I am exaggerating!
    I hope you get rid of your stones and never have them again pearljgirl2010.
  • REALLY SORRY that you are having the "stabbing in the stomach" pain.
    I am 33. And that is the only pain I have ever felt that just brings me to my knees.
    When I try to explain to my girlfriend how bad it hurts on my stomach she thinks I am exaggerating!
    I hope you get rid of your stones and never have them again pearljgirl2010.


    thanks--same with you! I feel fine now, but really hope to never get them again...and the pain is NO exaggeration! After my brothers had them, they both called me and apologized for making light of it when i had them. I hated being able to say "i told you so" because i never wanted them to get them too :-(
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  • mr.pinkmr.pink Posts: 362
    It has to be hereditary in some cases. My sister and I both get them, and the underlying cause is the same. Most will say "too much calcium", and every doctor told me to avoid calcium supplements. I went to several specialists to try to figure it out. If I combined the lists of foods they told me to avoid, I'd be trying to live on chicken and fruit.

    I actually needed more calcium in my diet. An endocrinologist told me to drink a big glass of milk every morning and night and lift weights. I haven't had a single stone when following this formula. Sometimes I've been lazy and partied too much and I've got a couple stones. BUT I FIGURED OUT THE REMEDY, at least for me. Lemon juice will destroy the stones when you already have them. I got that from "natural pathic" doctors and it really works. So for me, living right with milk is the prevention and lemon juice is the cure when I don't live right.

    My stones are calcium-oxalate, which is the case with 97% of stones. We both have the sibling thing, so may be we have similar situations. I've got way more info about it, because I obsessively studied it a while back.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,818
    I'm curious to find out if anyone else here has had kidney stones. I've had them 3 times, the most recently last night, then back in 2005, and first in 1998...I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy!!

    If you have had them, have you had any luck with diet/vitamins/etc to help stop them? Unfortunately, mine have never been analyzed, so I don't know exactly what's caused them...

    that's a lot of times
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  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    I had them twice 20 years apart, and most recently in august of last year, so not sure if vitamins or diet or whatever I did helped...My wife just had them in december and had two the size of 1 karat diamonds!! Had to have surgery...I was lucky enough to pass mine!! OH BOY!!

    When I had my first ones, I was told that it was because I drank alot of water, and the water in our area is very hard from what I am told...I too do not wish these on my worst enemy...My wife actually told me(even since our separation) that had she had any idea how much pain I was in, she wouldnt have taken it so lightly...she just assumed that since I have little tolerance for pain, that I was making out to be worse than it was...Now she knows!! :D

    The wife of a guy I work with has had them 6 or 7 times since I met him in 1995...Some people are just lucky I guess! ;)

    Hope you are doing ok now!! :-)
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  • HoltzmnHoltzmn Posts: 87
    I just passed my first one Tuesday morning. I got a pain in my side Monday the 4th but didn't think much of it and then that night around 11PM I got the most horrific pain, unable to lay or sit down all I could do was walk around my house, occasionally screaming from the pain. Around 2AM I started vomiting and shaking from the chills. I had no clue where to go and was waiting for the urgent care by me to open at 8am, all night I was chugging water and around 5am the pain went away. Over the next couple days I was in slight pain but nothing too bad, I thought I had passed it but it was just sitting in my bladder at this point. Forward to two days ago the pain came back more in the side and front, I could feel the pain radiate to my groin when I urinated. Took another 24 hours of drinking water non stop to finally pass that sucker Tuesday morning. The pain after it left my bladder was bad but nowhere near as painful as when it went from my kidney to bladder, I was able to sleep and even worked out monday night trying to keep my mind off of the pain. Took 9 days and untold gallons of water to pass that stone, worst pain in my life, words can't accurately describe how much pain I was in. I think mine was from just not drinking enough water, I was also drinking red bull before working out so that didn't help at all, I cut out pop and red bull and will be upping my water intake and pray I don't get another one.
  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    you fucking people are killing me with this shit..... :shock:

    why did i open this, and why did i read it all. ouch !!!!

    i feel bad for all of you, i do. fuck me, I'm in pain just thinking about this shit.
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    I had one about 10 years ago. That was the worse pain i ever had. I never got another one thank God. It literally feels like someone twisting a knife in your back. You can't get comfortable.
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  • maaaaan! I was hoping that no one would be able to relate--there are too many of us who've gotten these stupid things!

    Thanks for the lemon juice/diet info--my mom said something yesterday about lemon juice but I had already passed it by that point...maybe I'll go down some now, just in case!

    My lower back is still sore today, i guess my kidney is irritated. i'll take that anyday over what I felt tuesday night!!
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  • rival.rival. Posts: 7,775
    its funny, when i had mine, a heating pad believe it or not helped the pain/discomfort more than any medication i was given. the thing was honestly a life saver. the heat helped so much.
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    I'm curious to find out if anyone else here has had kidney stones. I've had them 3 times, the most recently last night, then back in 2005, and first in 1998...I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy!!

    If you have had them, have you had any luck with diet/vitamins/etc to help stop them? Unfortunately, mine have never been analyzed, so I don't know exactly what's caused them...

    My Dad has had them for years

    His urologist recommended taking a Magnesium supplement

    He said the calcium would build up and crystalize the Magnesium helps the kidney prevent the build up and if he would pass one it wouldn't be painful because it would be very small

    Google Magnesium and Kidney Stones you'll find some good stuff
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  • mr.pinkmr.pink Posts: 362
    I'm curious to find out if anyone else here has had kidney stones. I've had them 3 times, the most recently last night, then back in 2005, and first in 1998...I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy!!

    If you have had them, have you had any luck with diet/vitamins/etc to help stop them? Unfortunately, mine have never been analyzed, so I don't know exactly what's caused them...

    My Dad has had them for years

    His urologist recommended taking a Magnesium supplement

    He said the calcium would build up and crystalize the Magnesium helps the kidney prevent the build up and if he would pass one it wouldn't be painful because it would be very small

    Google Magnesium and Kidney Stones you'll find some good stuff

    It has to be Magnesium Citrate in most cases, not Magnesium Oxide. The Mag does play a role in Calcium absorption, but the Citrate plays a bigger role in replacing the Oxalate in stones, thus preventing them. I used to take a product called, "natural calm" which is a highly absorbable powder form, but the milk thing with a diet including some citrus has worked the best for me.
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  • Oh! You all have my sympathy! These posts made me cringe.

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  • mr.pink wrote:

    My Dad has had them for years

    His urologist recommended taking a Magnesium supplement

    He said the calcium would build up and crystalize the Magnesium helps the kidney prevent the build up and if he would pass one it wouldn't be painful because it would be very small

    Google Magnesium and Kidney Stones you'll find some good stuff

    It has to be Magnesium Citrate in most cases, not Magnesium Oxide. The Mag does play a role in Calcium absorption, but the Citrate plays a bigger role in replacing the Oxalate in stones, thus preventing them. I used to take a product called, "natural calm" which is a highly absorbable powder form, but the milk thing with a diet including some citrus has worked the best for me.


    thanks for that info...my back is still sore today, but i feel a lot better. I've added lemon juice to my water, and am researching the magnesium citrate, so hopefully I can avoid these suckers in the future!!!
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  • Steve DunneSteve Dunne Posts: 4,965
    get well J...

    i've never had these...knock on wood...
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  • I'm curious to find out if anyone else here has had kidney stones. I've had them 3 times, the most recently last night, then back in 2005, and first in 1998...I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy!!

    If you have had them, have you had any luck with diet/vitamins/etc to help stop them? Unfortunately, mine have never been analyzed, so I don't know exactly what's caused them...

    Based on the assumption your stones are Calcium Oxalate (you should get evaluated for a cause though), here is some advice:

    If you are having recurrent kidney stones you should be consuming moderate amounts of Calcium and less amounts of Oxalate. When you consume Calcium the free Oxalate is able to bind to it in your blood. This prevents free Oxalate from being secreted into your urine, preventing Calcium and Oxalate binding together and forming Kidney Stones.

    Essentially, here is what you should know:
    1. Consume about 600 mg of Calcium per day (roughly one good dairy meal per day)
    2. Drink MORE WATER (Most important thing)
    3. Consume less protein, oxalate (google can give you a list of foods containing high oxalate) and salt

    Finally, my best advice is to get evaluated by your PCP. I get nervous when I see patients having a recurrent medical problem but not having an evaluation for a specific cause.

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  • I had stones this pass summer. I was the worst pain i have ever felt. I thought i was dieing. I ended up staying in the hospital for almost a week. My stones were to large to be passed so i needed surgery to get them out. The problem was that they said my blood pressure was to high for me to be put out for the surgery. So they had to get my blood pressure under control before they would do anything. After they got the blood pressure down they were ready to go forward with the surgery. But then they told me because of a history of bad reactions to anesthetic in my family, they were just going to freeze the bottom half of my body and do the surgery with me wide awake. Basically they gave me an epidural. They put a scope up my urethra thew my bladder and up into my kidney and shot the little bastards with a lazer. I was awake during the whole thing. What a mind fuck. The only thing that was kinda cool i guess was that i was able to see the live vid on the screens. I actually watched the whole thing on tv live LOL

    So they say it's like the pain one feels giving birth......well i felt that pain AND got the epidural !! I got as close to giving birth as any man can . Oh and after they got the stones out my blood pressure went completely normal. They told me a blockage in the kidney can cause high blood pressure.

    I never want to go threw that again.........
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