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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
  • The Juggler
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
  • The Juggler
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. That doesn't mean you can't like another team. For example, I really liked those early to mid 90's Mariners teams with Griffey in his prime. Mlb network or ESPN showed game 5 of the al division series with them and the Yanks last night. One of the greatest games ever played!
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. That doesn't mean you can't like another team. For example, I really liked those early to mid 90's Mariners teams with Griffey in his prime. Mlb network or ESPN showed game 5 of the al division series with them and the Yanks last night. One of the greatest games ever played!
    Is that the one that they piled on Griffey at home plate?

  • The Juggler
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. That doesn't mean you can't like another team. For example, I really liked those early to mid 90's Mariners teams with Griffey in his prime. Mlb network or ESPN showed game 5 of the al division series with them and the Yanks last night. One of the greatest games ever played!
    Is that the one that they piled on Griffey at home plate?

    Scored from 1st on Edgar's hit to left. Fucking awesome moment
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    edited April 2020
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. That doesn't mean you can't like another team. For example, I really liked those early to mid 90's Mariners teams with Griffey in his prime. Mlb network or ESPN showed game 5 of the al division series with them and the Yanks last night. One of the greatest games ever played!
    Is that the one that they piled on Griffey at home plate?

    Scored from 1st on Edgar's hit to left. Fucking awesome moment
    Agreed.
    Edit:

    I went to quite a few games in 96 and 97 when I was in Seattle and those teams were seriously stacked. Martinez, Rodriguez, Griffey, Buhner, Cruz Jr, Randy Johnson.  Was at their first ever inter-league game against the Rockies and the red hot Larry Walker.
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  • The Juggler
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. That doesn't mean you can't like another team. For example, I really liked those early to mid 90's Mariners teams with Griffey in his prime. Mlb network or ESPN showed game 5 of the al division series with them and the Yanks last night. One of the greatest games ever played!
    Is that the one that they piled on Griffey at home plate?

    Scored from 1st on Edgar's hit to left. Fucking awesome moment
    Agreed.
    Edit:

    I went to quite a few games in 96 and 97 when I was in Seattle and those teams were seriously stacked. Martinez, Rodriguez, Griffey, Buhner, Cruz Jr, Randy Johnson.  Was at their first ever inter-league game against the Rockies and the red hot Larry Walker.
    That team was great on Ken Griffey Jr Baseball on SNES too
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  • Wobbie
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    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. 

    lazy.
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  • The Juggler
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    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. 

    lazy.
    civic pride
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. 

    lazy.
    civic pride
    Or a lemming...
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. 

    lazy.
    civic pride
    Or a lemming...
    haha....no
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. 

    lazy.
    civic pride
    Or a lemming...
    haha....no
    Well I got a chuckle out of you at least.

    I'm thankful that I became a Lakers fan when I lived in Cali and not an insufferable and delusional Knicks fan...
  • The Juggler
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. 

    lazy.
    civic pride
    Or a lemming...
    haha....no
    Well I got a chuckle out of you at least.

    I'm thankful that I became a Lakers fan when I lived in Cali and not an insufferable and delusional Knicks fan...
    I'll bet.

    But I'll also bet that if and when the Knicks ever win a championship, that high that those long suffering fans will experience will be unlike anything you experienced after you became Lakers fan. 

    To me, that's what it's all about. Red Sox fans experienced that in '04...Cubs fans a few years ago...Cavs fans when Lebron came back... us Eagles fans a couple years ago. There is literally nothing like finally reaching the mountain top after sticking with your home town team through decades of futility. Absolutely nothing like euphoric feeling. It's the ultimate reward as a sports fan.

    I actually feel sorry that you won't ever experience it!



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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    And if you don't have a hometown team, but live equidistant to 3 major sports cities (Pittsburgh, Baltimore, DC) and don't like any of the them?
    This fraud list is about as valid as the PCU rule of not wearing the band's shirt to a concert.
    The Cubs are my team.  Bottom line.  They have been since I was a kid and always will be. I don't need some stupid list telling me I'm a fraud because I don't root for the Pirates.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. 

    lazy.
    civic pride
    Or a lemming...
    haha....no
    Well I got a chuckle out of you at least.

    I'm thankful that I became a Lakers fan when I lived in Cali and not an insufferable and delusional Knicks fan...
    I'll bet.

    But I'll also bet that if and when the Knicks ever win a championship, that high that those long suffering fans will experience will be unlike anything you experienced after you became Lakers fan. 

    To me, that's what it's all about. Red Sox fans experienced that in '04...Cubs fans a few years ago...Cavs fans when Lebron came back... us Eagles fans a couple years ago. There is literally nothing like finally reaching the mountain top after sticking with your home town team through decades of futility. Absolutely nothing like euphoric feeling. It's the ultimate reward as a sports fan.

    I actually feel sorry that you won't ever experience it!



    2002 and 1998 I did.  After watching the Halos fall apart in 86 and 95, I got to see them win it all in 2002.

    After suffering through 3 Super Bowl Losses w the Broncos I got to see them win it in 98 and repeat in 99 so I do know that feeling.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
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    tempo_n_groove said:
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    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    It doesn't mention about following your favorite player?  I switched loyalty to the Angels when Reggie left, when he spent his last year with the A's I did not switch again though.

    I am a firm believer that you don't have to be a homer...
    By rule, that would make you a fraud, sorry to say!

    You're from NY right? How did you become a fan of the Angels?
    As stated above when Reggie left in 82 was it?  

    I would agree that I am a hometown fraud but a sports fan fraud?  Absolutely not.  I enjoy sports way too much and know more about things in general than the average homer.
    I don't make the rules!
    That's one persons holier than thou opus though which caters to the Homer attitude of things.  I agree with some of it like the yahoo whom wears a blue jays hat to a Yanks/mariners game...
    Well I'm just a firm believer of rooting for your home town team no matter what. 

    lazy.
    civic pride
    Or a lemming...
    haha....no
    Well I got a chuckle out of you at least.

    I'm thankful that I became a Lakers fan when I lived in Cali and not an insufferable and delusional Knicks fan...
    I'll bet.

    But I'll also bet that if and when the Knicks ever win a championship, that high that those long suffering fans will experience will be unlike anything you experienced after you became Lakers fan. 

    To me, that's what it's all about. Red Sox fans experienced that in '04...Cubs fans a few years ago...Cavs fans when Lebron came back... us Eagles fans a couple years ago. There is literally nothing like finally reaching the mountain top after sticking with your home town team through decades of futility. Absolutely nothing like euphoric feeling. It's the ultimate reward as a sports fan.

    I actually feel sorry that you won't ever experience it!



    2002 and 1998 I did.  After watching the Halos fall apart in 86 and 95, I got to see them win it all in 2002.

    After suffering through 3 Super Bowl Losses w the Broncos I got to see them win it in 98 and repeat in 99 so I do know that feeling.
    Wait you are a Broncos fan too?

    You're all over the place man!
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited April 2020
    HesCalledDyer said:
    And if you don't have a hometown team, but live equidistant to 3 major sports cities (Pittsburgh, Baltimore, DC) and don't like any of the them?
    This fraud list is about as valid as the PCU rule of not wearing the band's shirt to a concert.
    The Cubs are my team.  Bottom line.  They have been since I was a kid and always will be. I don't need some stupid list telling me I'm a fraud because I don't root for the Pirates.
    The not wearing a band's shirt to their concert thing is a hard and fast one that I follow as well.

    Where are you from and how did you become a Cubs fan?
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    The Juggler said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    And if you don't have a hometown team, but live equidistant to 3 major sports cities (Pittsburgh, Baltimore, DC) and don't like any of the them?
    This fraud list is about as valid as the PCU rule of not wearing the band's shirt to a concert.
    The Cubs are my team.  Bottom line.  They have been since I was a kid and always will be. I don't need some stupid list telling me I'm a fraud because I don't root for the Pirates.
    The not wearing a band's shirt to their concert thing is a hard and fast one that I follow as well.

    Where are you from and how did you become a Cubs fan?
    Grew up in neighboring towns between MD and WV.  Had WGN when I was a kid and my choices were the Cubs, the Braves on TBS, or limited Orioles games on WJZ-13. The Cubs were always on in the day (before the lights) when I came home from school and the rest is history.
    I guess this area would consider "the home team" to be the Orioles. There's a big Cubs presence because of the WGN thing, and a big Red Sox presence because of Lefty Grove (born in the town my high school was in).  There are some Pirates and Nats fans around, but not nearly as many as the O's.  There was a contingent of Phillies fans in the 90's, because John Kruk's hometown is one of those towns I grew up in. And of course there are random Yankee fans.
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  • crookedcross
    crookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,546
    I wear t-shirts under my Knicks jerseys. It's cold in MSG. I also don't put my name on blank jerseys. However, I did buy a bunch of heavily discounted Cruz jerseys on clearance when the Giants cut him. So now I have a bunch of Giants jerseys with my last name on em. 

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