Global Warming Conspiracy- More proof ?

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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I know who S.H. is. All I'm saying is all you have to do is look at the people who stand to make millions of dollars off GW. They are the same ones who are screaming the loudest. Why then did these same people 20 yrs ago say we were heading for another ice age and now they are saying the earth is warming? I'm sorry but I have hard time beliving these people. And I'm still waiting on someone to answer my questions in my last post, i probably won't get one.

    dude ... your last post got responded to ... in reality tho - you don't really deserve an answer because you continue to spew the same talking points that continue to make you look extremely ignorant on the subject ...

    your video has no substance and just like all the other threads you started on this - you will walk away only to start another one based on all the same crap ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    it's like 0°C or 32°F in orlando today ...
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    i trust people of science and my own eyes. i see the icecaps melting, i see no snow on mountaintops where it was once plentiful. i don't care about al gore, i care about my planet. some on here are content to let it go to shit because they will be dead before it all ends, but that is a terrible attitude to have. what about your kids and grandkids and their kids? shouldn't we be working to preserve this world for all of them? funny how most of these "conservatives" can't be bothered with conserving their own planet and its resourses...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    Can I add that the people shouting the loudest against GW also are standing to make or lose a bucketful of billions depending whether the GW science is heeded or not...

    It's a society and mentality-changing paradigm shift we are about to witness and there will of course be those that benefit from that, and those that won't. Those that won't, will fight the change as long as they possibly can. Those that will benefit can't wait long enough for it to happen, tempting some of them to short-cut. Thus, you have the "controversy" now which is largely political in nature. Embedded is also the problem of presenting complex science so that it will be understood correctly in the public.

    As for right now: One heat-wave does not confirm global warming, neither do a cold-wave negate it. It's always and forever aggregated trend data that counts.

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i trust people of science and my own eyes. i see the icecaps melting, i see no snow on mountaintops where it was once plentiful. i don't care about al gore, i care about my planet. some on here are content to let it go to shit because they will be dead before it all ends, but that is a terrible attitude to have. what about your kids and grandkids and their kids? shouldn't we be working to preserve this world for all of them? funny how most of these "conservatives" can't be bothered with conserving their own planet and its resourses...

    the environment was originally championed by conservatives ...
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    polaris_x wrote:
    it's like 0°C or 32°F in orlando today ...

    On Sunday past morning 5:28 am in Jacksonville, Florida it was 28 degrees without a wind chill. It was windy as a uknow what and I had to gas up while I sat in my truck. It was no fucking joke out there. Brrrrrrr!

    peace
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    g under p wrote:
    On Sunday past morning 5:28 am in Jacksonville, Florida it was 28 degrees without a wind chill. It was windy as a uknow what and I had to gas up while I sat in my truck. It was no fucking joke out there. Brrrrrrr!

    peace

    i hope it's warm down in jacksoville come end of february - i have a trip there!
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    And I'm still waiting on someone to answer my questions in my last post, i probably won't get one.

    well I couldn't find anything on the so-called "Doctor X" except that it is a common name for professional wrestlers.

    The only other true "scientist" (PhD) on the video is Richard Lindzen. Here are some interesting things I found out about him:

    He is widely respected, but described as a "contrarian." He is skeptical of some of the computer models used to predict future temperatures, but agrees that warming is occuring. I'm not smart enough to understand all the science, but "Gavin Schmidt (climatologist for NASA) has said that Lindzen agrees with about 90% of what other climate scientists are saying, yet the last 10% is sufficiently different to label him a contrarian."

    He denies that cigarettes cause lung cancer. This exemplifies his "contrarian" label... and where there is emotion involved before reasoning I do not believe anything he has to say 100%.

    "According to Ross Gelbspan in a 1995 article in Harper's Magazine, Lindzen "... charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services." Again, I'm not going to believe the guy if he is paid by oil/coal interests to have a certain opinion.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    he still stands wrote:

    "According to Ross Gelbspan in a 1995 article in Harper's Magazine, Lindzen "... charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services." Again, I'm not going to believe the guy if he is paid by oil/coal interests to have a certain opinion.
    That right there is more than enough info against his credibility as a scientist.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    polaris_x wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i trust people of science and my own eyes. i see the icecaps melting, i see no snow on mountaintops where it was once plentiful. i don't care about al gore, i care about my planet. some on here are content to let it go to shit because they will be dead before it all ends, but that is a terrible attitude to have. what about your kids and grandkids and their kids? shouldn't we be working to preserve this world for all of them? funny how most of these "conservatives" can't be bothered with conserving their own planet and its resourses...

    the environment was originally championed by conservatives ...
    yeah i know. my post was just saying somewhee along the line they veered away from their original principles and morphed into what we have today....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    Jeanwah wrote:
    he still stands wrote:

    "According to Ross Gelbspan in a 1995 article in Harper's Magazine, Lindzen "... charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services." Again, I'm not going to believe the guy if he is paid by oil/coal interests to have a certain opinion.
    That right there is more than enough info against his credibility as a scientist.
    my sentiments exactly. you beat me to it...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jeanwah wrote:
    he still stands wrote:

    "According to Ross Gelbspan in a 1995 article in Harper's Magazine, Lindzen "... charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services." Again, I'm not going to believe the guy if he is paid by oil/coal interests to have a certain opinion.
    That right there is more than enough info against his credibility as a scientist.

    i mentioned that in my post to him yesterday but apparently he chose to not read that ...
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