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Matt Cameron's best drumming?

Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
edited January 2010 in The Porch
We all know he's great. My picks would be a toss up of:

Jesus Christ Pose and Got Some.
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  • Sleep.With.InnocenceSleep.With.Innocence Posts: 607
    Nothing he's done with Pearl Jam compares to Jesus Christ Pose.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    That's true.
    Shows: 6.27.08 Hartford, CT/5.15.10 Hartford, CT/6.18.2011 Hartford, CT (EV Solo)/10.19.13 Brooklyn/10.25.13 Hartford
    "Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    I don't know, there's some live Even Flow solos that would put both of those to shame.
  • Still In HidingStill In Hiding Posts: 370
    Save You has some pretty good drumming, especially near the end
  • Sleep.With.InnocenceSleep.With.Innocence Posts: 607
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    I don't know, there's some live Even Flow solos that would put both of those to shame.

    Jesus Christ Pose > Even Flow

    You ever listen to Cornells pipes on that song?

    And as a whole Jesus Christ Pose is a workout on the drums, takes a lot out of you.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    I don't know, there's some live Even Flow solos that would put both of those to shame.

    Jesus Christ Pose > Even Flow

    You ever listen to Cornells pipes on that song?

    And as a whole Jesus Christ Pose is a workout on the drums, takes a lot out of you.
    Honestly, this thread inspired me to listen to it, and honestly, I think the song sucks, but that's me. I could never get into Badmotorfinger, and looking back I consider Soundgarden to be a mediocre Seattle band.

    Nothing Soundgarden ever did will hold a candle to Even Flow or anything on Ten. IMO.
  • AH277761AH277761 Posts: 10
    all great choices but i have to say his work on The Who's "The Real Me" is cameron at his best
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    AH277761 wrote:
    all great choices but i have to say his work on The Who's "The Real Me" is cameron at his best
    This is one of their greatest performances of ANY song EVER!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jnQ3XVXMyk
  • Sleep.With.InnocenceSleep.With.Innocence Posts: 607
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    I don't know, there's some live Even Flow solos that would put both of those to shame.

    Jesus Christ Pose > Even Flow

    You ever listen to Cornells pipes on that song?

    And as a whole Jesus Christ Pose is a workout on the drums, takes a lot out of you.
    Honestly, this thread inspired me to listen to it, and honestly, I think the song sucks, but that's me. I could never get into Badmotorfinger, and looking back I consider Soundgarden to be a mediocre Seattle band.

    Nothing Soundgarden ever did will hold a candle to Even Flow or anything on Ten. IMO.


    All and all Pearl Jam is a much better band than Soundgarden, but me and you will have to respectfully disagree about Jesus Christ Pose. As a drummer myself that's harder (on drums) than any other song in the Pearl Jam catalog. (Well maybe some of the old Dave A jam sessions top it)
  • Aaron 23Aaron 23 Posts: 543
    Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:
    All and all Pearl Jam is a much better band than Soundgarden, but me and you will have to respectfully disagree about Jesus Christ Pose. As a drummer myself that's harder (on drums) than any other song in the Pearl Jam catalog. (Well maybe some of the old Dave A jam sessions top it)
    As a drummer, myself, I am inclined to agree. 8-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ygBladNLo
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Aaron 23 wrote:
    Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:
    All and all Pearl Jam is a much better band than Soundgarden, but me and you will have to respectfully disagree about Jesus Christ Pose. As a drummer myself that's harder (on drums) than any other song in the Pearl Jam catalog. (Well maybe some of the old Dave A jam sessions top it)
    As a drummer, myself, I am inclined to agree. 8-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ygBladNLo

    I play both drums and guitar (learning guitar now). I've tried for several months to get Jesus Christ Pose on drums and still can't get it. That, IMO, is about as good as you can get on drums in the 90s, maybe in music history.
    Shows: 6.27.08 Hartford, CT/5.15.10 Hartford, CT/6.18.2011 Hartford, CT (EV Solo)/10.19.13 Brooklyn/10.25.13 Hartford
    "Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
  • snipes824snipes824 Posts: 870
    soundgarden fucking rocks.
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    how bout the fact that matt uses the beat of JCP as a drum riff going back into the climax of even flow after the solo is done and before stone plays his riff to bring it all home.
    9/29/96, 8/29/98, 9/8,11/98, 7/28/99, 8/23,24,25/00, 10/13/00, 4/15/03, 4/30/03, 7/8,9,12,14/03, 10/1/04, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 5/4,5,13,27,28/06, 6/1,3/06, 6/19,20,22,24,25,27/08, 7/1/08, 8/4,5,7,16/08, 8/21/09, 10/27,28,30,31/09, 5/15,17,18,20,21/10, 9/2/12, 10/18,19,21,22,25/13
  • FahkaFahka Posts: 3,187
    Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:
    Nothing he's done with Pearl Jam compares to Jesus Christ Pose.


    yep! By far! Always loved the drums in that. Still can't believe i may be seeing soundgarden this year, if you would have told me they may be reuniting a few weeks ago i would have told you to go poop because your full of it :mrgreen:

    Ok who is playing drums on "hold on" (education and black red yellow too for that matter) ??? I see it's from V.S out takes but some of lost dogs was re recorded right? Because if that's Matt drumming that's the shit right there ;)
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    LeatherMandi wrote:
    Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:
    Nothing he's done with Pearl Jam compares to Jesus Christ Pose.


    yep! By far! Always loved the drums in that. Still can't believe i may be seeing soundgarden this year, if you would have told me they may be reuniting a few weeks ago i would have told you to go poop because your full of it :mrgreen:

    Ok who is playing drums on "hold on" (education and black red yellow too for that matter) ??? I see it's from V.S out takes but some of lost dogs was re recorded right? Because if that's Matt drumming that's the shit right there ;)


    Education was the only one on that list that Matt recorded
    9/29/96, 8/29/98, 9/8,11/98, 7/28/99, 8/23,24,25/00, 10/13/00, 4/15/03, 4/30/03, 7/8,9,12,14/03, 10/1/04, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 5/4,5,13,27,28/06, 6/1,3/06, 6/19,20,22,24,25,27/08, 7/1/08, 8/4,5,7,16/08, 8/21/09, 10/27,28,30,31/09, 5/15,17,18,20,21/10, 9/2/12, 10/18,19,21,22,25/13
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    LeatherMandi wrote:


    Still can't believe i may be seeing soundgarden this year, if you would have told me they may be reuniting a few weeks ago i would have told you to go poop because your full of it :mrgreen:
    +1
    LeatherMandi wrote:
    Ok who is playing drums on "hold on" (education and black red yellow too for that matter) ??? I see it's from V.S out takes but some of lost dogs was re recorded right? Because if that's Matt drumming that's the shit right there ;)
    probably was matt only cause ed hates dave a :roll:
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • FahkaFahka Posts: 3,187
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    LeatherMandi wrote:
    Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:
    Nothing he's done with Pearl Jam compares to Jesus Christ Pose.


    yep! By far! Always loved the drums in that. Still can't believe i may be seeing soundgarden this year, if you would have told me they may be reuniting a few weeks ago i would have told you to go poop because your full of it :mrgreen:

    Ok who is playing drums on "hold on" (education and black red yellow too for that matter) ??? I see it's from V.S out takes but some of lost dogs was re recorded right? Because if that's Matt drumming that's the shit right there ;)


    Education was the only one on that list that Matt recorded

    ah thank you for verifying;) 'Education' is great.. and matt did wonderfully on 'hold on'! in Philly 'last' year... Sounded perfect....
  • Naked JohnNaked John Posts: 318
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    how bout the fact that matt uses the beat of JCP as a drum riff going back into the climax of even flow after the solo is done and before stone plays his riff to bring it all home.
    :thumbup: :D
  • FahkaFahka Posts: 3,187
    metsfan wrote:
    LeatherMandi wrote:


    Still can't believe i may be seeing soundgarden this year, if you would have told me they may be reuniting a few weeks ago i would have told you to go poop because your full of it :mrgreen:
    +1
    LeatherMandi wrote:
    Ok who is playing drums on "hold on" (education and black red yellow too for that matter) ??? I see it's from V.S out takes but some of lost dogs was re recorded right? Because if that's Matt drumming that's the shit right there ;)
    probably was matt only cause ed hates dave a :roll:

    You would hate someone too if you caught them doing THIS behind your back!




    eddiedaveacopy.jpg


    does suck that we'll never hear angel ever live though...what a captivating ditty...
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    LeatherMandi wrote:

    ah thank you for verifying;) 'Education' is great.. and matt did wonderfully on 'hold on'! in Philly 'last' year... Sounded perfect....


    Not really - they cut out the ending from the original version which had great drum fills. The song just kinda ended abruptly without allowing Matt to shine.

    That being said, I'm sure he would've
    9/29/96, 8/29/98, 9/8,11/98, 7/28/99, 8/23,24,25/00, 10/13/00, 4/15/03, 4/30/03, 7/8,9,12,14/03, 10/1/04, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 5/4,5,13,27,28/06, 6/1,3/06, 6/19,20,22,24,25,27/08, 7/1/08, 8/4,5,7,16/08, 8/21/09, 10/27,28,30,31/09, 5/15,17,18,20,21/10, 9/2/12, 10/18,19,21,22,25/13
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    LeatherMandi wrote:

    You would hate someone too if you caught them doing THIS behind your back!




    eddiedaveacopy.jpg


    does suck that we'll never hear angel ever live though...what a captivating ditty...
    hey i have ed's face over my dart board. i kid i kid.

    yes it does suck we will never hear angel. i'm sure somewhere dave a is praying the band does play that song.
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • FahkaFahka Posts: 3,187
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    LeatherMandi wrote:

    ah thank you for verifying;) 'Education' is great.. and matt did wonderfully on 'hold on'! in Philly 'last' year... Sounded perfect....


    Not really - they cut out the ending from the original version which had great drum fills. The song just kinda ended abruptly without allowing Matt to shine.

    That being said, I'm sure he would've

    sounded good from where i stood! Then again i could have had some temp hearing damage from the previous nights
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    how bout the fact that matt uses the beat of JCP as a drum riff going back into the climax of even flow after the solo is done and before stone plays his riff to bring it all home.

    not really. The rhythm for JCP is much harder than that. The evenflow rhythm is really a half assed version
    5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
    8/7/08, 6/9/09
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    how bout the fact that matt uses the beat of JCP as a drum riff going back into the climax of even flow after the solo is done and before stone plays his riff to bring it all home.

    not really. The rhythm for JCP is much harder than that. The evenflow rhythm is really a half assed version

    Even Flow
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS4T8IsI9bE

    Drum solo starts around 4:45
    JCP at 5:39

    JCP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ygBladNLo

    half assed? I don't think so....sounds like he's hitting the same amount of tom-hits...the accentuation may be a tad different due to the different riffs. Either way...he's doing a fine job.
    9/29/96, 8/29/98, 9/8,11/98, 7/28/99, 8/23,24,25/00, 10/13/00, 4/15/03, 4/30/03, 7/8,9,12,14/03, 10/1/04, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 5/4,5,13,27,28/06, 6/1,3/06, 6/19,20,22,24,25,27/08, 7/1/08, 8/4,5,7,16/08, 8/21/09, 10/27,28,30,31/09, 5/15,17,18,20,21/10, 9/2/12, 10/18,19,21,22,25/13
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    how bout the fact that matt uses the beat of JCP as a drum riff going back into the climax of even flow after the solo is done and before stone plays his riff to bring it all home.

    not really. The rhythm for JCP is much harder than that. The evenflow rhythm is really a half assed version

    Even Flow
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS4T8IsI9bE

    Drum solo starts around 4:45
    JCP at 5:39

    JCP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ygBladNLo

    half assed? I don't think so....sounds like he's hitting the same amount of tom-hits...the accentuation may be a tad different due to the different riffs. Either way...he's doing a fine job.

    I'm not knocking on Matt, the guys is my favorite drummer....period. Im just saying what he plays on evenflow is nooooo where near as hard as JCP. The playing for JCP is basically an extremely tight and fast snare roll while going on the toms. There are soooo many accents on the snare for JCP and for Evenflow its basically just a nice tom tom beat.

    As for his best playing in Pearl Jam, live -wise that would have to be these 2 youtube vids:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbeR-9-5a0g
    Incredible fucking playing there, especially during the jam at around 4:45 and up.
    I love the fills at like 5:30 how they accent what mike is playing and also 5:53 where he plays on the snare followed by a fast fill around the toms.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkoMX7zdhGQ
    Just fast forward to the solo at around 5:00. Just an incredibly sick solo by him, enough said.

    On RECORD I would say his best album is riot act. There is alot of cool things he does throughout the album. And surprisingly enough I think his best drum track may be GHOST. Check it out and listen to his playing, it really is great. I also dig the way he grooves on the fixer. His high hat playing followed by the crash hit during the main riffs are awesome. and his crash hits and tom fills during the outro are cool.

    The new DRUM magazine article says he goes through drum heads and cymbals like its nothing and that while a drummer like Travis Barker clearly shows his hard hitting, Matt hides it by having quick as shit wrists.


    TL;DR

    Matt is a fucking pro, and anyone who thinks he sucks seriously is a dumbass in all honesty.
    5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
    8/7/08, 6/9/09
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Posts: 4,007
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    how bout the fact that matt uses the beat of JCP as a drum riff going back into the climax of even flow after the solo is done and before stone plays his riff to bring it all home.

    Ok I'm going to HAVE to go Listen TO it Now! ;)
  • TroubledSoulTroubledSoul Posts: 1,366
    GTF live on 2 legs
    1:53-1:56
    Yeh I've seen Pearl Jam, too. But I can't remember the dates.
  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    LeatherMandi wrote:
    Ok who is playing drums on "hold on" (education and black red yellow too for that matter) ??? I see it's from V.S out takes but some of lost dogs was re recorded right? Because if that's Matt drumming that's the shit right there ;)

    That's Dave Krusen on "Hold On".
  • Evolution6579Evolution6579 Posts: 624
    I love this thread. When I listen to music, the drums always stand out in the front. Matt has been one of my favorite drummers since I saw the video for Fell On Black Days. Do The Evolution from Winnipeg '05 is pretty fucking good. So is Save You on Letterman, but my favorite is the Matt Cam version of In My Tree from Touring Band 2000. He owns that song and does Jack Irons justice.




    On an unrelated and somewhat related note, it is nice to hear Dave Grohl on the skins again with Them Crooked Vultures. :)
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  • BALLBOYBALLBOY Posts: 1,029
    All of it!
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