Peta people???

EddieLedBetter

What are some of you PETA people's thoughts on lab animal testing geared in the direction of protecting the human race from, lets say, Anthrax?

I personally think if you value an animal life over a human life you are nuttier than squirrel shit. I once heard a PETA rep say after Steve Irwin died that they were glad to see him go because he pestered animals. Really?? Glad to see a wife and 2 kids grow up without a husband or father because of some souless animals. The guy brought awareness to animals not destruction.

WaveCameCrashin

EddieLedBetter wrote:

What are some of you PETA people's thoughts on lab animal testing geared in the direction of protecting the human race from, lets say, Anthrax?

I personally think if you value an animal life over a human life you are nuttier than squirrel shit. I once heard a PETA rep say after Steve Irwin died that they were glad to see him go because he pestered animals. Really?? Glad to see a wife and 2 kids grow up without a husband or father because of some souless animals. The guy brought awareness to animals not destruction.

Green is the new Red...

musicismylife78

I am a Peta supporter

it depends on the testing methods. One can obviously test simple things on humans. For example, in college, I remember, as part of the mandatory course in psychology, one had to complete a mandatory testing. It was pretty harmless. I think it was for testing the response time in me, when I saw an image on a computer screen, then clicked on it. Stuff like that. But when you get into things like testing various perscription drugs on humans, or various vaccines on people, you get onto shaky ground. Yes obviously this testing could prove that these things can save humans, but conversely they can also prove that these things can kill. The Tuskegee Airmen come to mind.

As far as animal testing, there is no ethical standards that these people apply to them. I am 100 percent against ANY animal testing or experimention, at all.

Humans are known for their treatment of animals, whether thats slaughterhouses, or large scale farms who sell off their cattle, chicken, or whatever for larger consumption, or the deploreable animal experimentation that goes on.

I am a vegetarian for ethical reasons. The native americans, although meat eaters, didnt ruthlessly kill animals, and when they did, it was an emotional experience, they said a prayer, they apologized, and they used every single piece meat, every single part of it, they didnt waste it. This is a far cry from the modern meat eater, modern hunter, or modern farmer.

Long ago, I was asked as part of a class, if, the sap of some tree could save a human life, could provide a cure for cancer or something, and these trees were endangered, would I chop down the trees to create this cure for cancer. I said no. and I stand by that.

CJMST3K

If we allow human issues to be tested on animals, then we should allow animal issues to be tested on humans.

Animals feel the same pain humans do. Humans are animals, so why don't we just test on ourselves?

...anyone who is for animal testing, here's a site for you to enjoy (if you dare).
http://www.animalexperimentspictures.com/

hinx

EddieLedBetter wrote:

What are some of you PETA people's thoughts on lab animal testing geared in the direction of protecting the human race from, lets say, Anthrax?

I personally think if you value an animal life over a human life you are nuttier than squirrel shit. I once heard a PETA rep say after Steve Irwin died that they were glad to see him go because he pestered animals. Really?? Glad to see a wife and 2 kids grow up without a husband or father because of some souless animals. The guy brought awareness to animals not destruction.

I personally feel really badly for people who think of animals as "souless". Haven't you ever had a pet? I know, without a doubt in my mind, that my dog isn't some automaton, mindlessly completing involuntary tasks until he dies one day. He has a personality, moods, emotions, and most certainly feels pain the same as you or me. How ridiculous to think otherwise.

gimmesometruth27

i'm against animal testing and animal cruelty, i give money to ASPCA, saved my dog from a kill shelter, etc, i appreciate peta's message but at the same time peta can go a little far to prove their points at times. i do think that animals are amazing and i prefer their company to that of most people. they don't talk so damn much, and they don't go out of their way to make other living things suffer.

dcfaithful

EddieLedBetter wrote:

What are some of you PETA people's thoughts on lab animal testing geared in the direction of protecting the human race from, lets say, Anthrax?

I personally think if you value an animal life over a human life you are nuttier than squirrel shit. I once heard a PETA rep say after Steve Irwin died that they were glad to see him go because he pestered animals. Really?? Glad to see a wife and 2 kids grow up without a husband or father because of some souless animals. The guy brought awareness to animals not destruction.

I advocate animal rights, and I even eat a vegetarian diet (mostly for health reasons), but I don't support PETA. I think they're self-righteous zealots, who may at one point had good intentions but have since lost all sense of that. Saying they were glad to see him die because he pestered animals? Sadistic fucks. For the record, Steve Irwin wasn't into interacting with animals to pester them. The guy wanted to show why these creatures were unique and an addition to our cool world, basically educate people. PETA better get on my ass then because I pester my dog when I kick him out of the bed at night. :roll:

PETA needs to realize that the way to talk to people about animal rights isn't by throwing buckets of blood and entrails on people. Not the smartest strategy in my opinion.

dcfaithful

CJMST3K wrote:

If we allow human issues to be tested on animals, then we should allow animal issues to be tested on humans.

Animals feel the same pain humans do. Humans are animals, so why don't we just test on ourselves?

...anyone who is for animal testing, here's a site for you to enjoy (if you dare).
http://www.animalexperimentspictures.com/

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Dirtie_Frank

I am a member of PETA

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decides2dream

EddieLedBetter wrote:

What are some of you PETA people's thoughts on lab animal testing geared in the direction of protecting the human race from, lets say, Anthrax?

I personally think if you value an animal life over a human life you are nuttier than squirrel shit. I once heard a PETA rep say after Steve Irwin died that they were glad to see him go because he pestered animals. Really?? Glad to see a wife and 2 kids grow up without a husband or father because of some souless animals. The guy brought awareness to animals not destruction.

well isn't this a great way to begin a reasoned discussion. discount possible opposing views from the get-go.

i've read someone on the pro-life side cheer the death of the doctor who was killed not too many months ago. so yea, there are stupid people in all walks of life, within all beliefs. so what?

and as with most things, what one 'values' is greatly dependent on a number of things. i value my dogs over a great many people, again, so what? life does not have to always be about putting your own species first, always.

Pepe Silvia

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i'm against animal testing and animal cruelty, i give money to ASPCA, saved my dog from a kill shelter, etc, i appreciate peta's message but at the same time peta can go a little far to prove their points at times. i do think that animals are amazing and i prefer their company to that of most people. they don't talk so damn much, and they don't go out of their way to make other living things suffer.

http://www.last.fm/music/The+Juliana+Ha ... +The+Birds

CJMST3K

dcfaithful wrote:

EddieLedBetter wrote:

What are some of you PETA people's thoughts on lab animal testing geared in the direction of protecting the human race from, lets say, Anthrax?

I personally think if you value an animal life over a human life you are nuttier than squirrel shit. I once heard a PETA rep say after Steve Irwin died that they were glad to see him go because he pestered animals. Really?? Glad to see a wife and 2 kids grow up without a husband or father because of some souless animals. The guy brought awareness to animals not destruction.

I advocate animal rights, and I even eat a vegetarian diet (mostly for health reasons), but I don't support PETA. I think they're self-righteous zealots, who may at one point had good intentions but have since lost all sense of that. Saying they were glad to see him die because he pestered animals? Sadistic fucks. For the record, Steve Irwin wasn't into interacting with animals to pester them. The guy wanted to show why these creatures were unique and an addition to our cool world, basically educate people. PETA better get on my ass then because I pester my dog when I kick him out of the bed at night. :roll:

PETA needs to realize that the way to talk to people about animal rights isn't by throwing buckets of blood and entrails on people. Not the smartest strategy in my opinion.

I'm hoping the OP provides a link to what he's accusing PeTA of saying...

Godfather.

EddieLedBetter wrote:

What are some of you PETA people's thoughts on lab animal testing geared in the direction of protecting the human race from, lets say, Anthrax?

I personally think if you value an animal life over a human life you are nuttier than squirrel shit. I once heard a PETA rep say after Steve Irwin died that they were glad to see him go because he pestered animals. Really?? Glad to see a wife and 2 kids grow up without a husband or father because of some souless animals. The guy brought awareness to animals not destruction.

I think in some cases animal testing is a necessary evil.

Godfather.

youngster

Godfather. wrote:

EddieLedBetter wrote:

What are some of you PETA people's thoughts on lab animal testing geared in the direction of protecting the human race from, lets say, Anthrax?

I personally think if you value an animal life over a human life you are nuttier than squirrel shit. I once heard a PETA rep say after Steve Irwin died that they were glad to see him go because he pestered animals. Really?? Glad to see a wife and 2 kids grow up without a husband or father because of some souless animals. The guy brought awareness to animals not destruction.

I think in some cases animal testing is a necessary evil.

Godfather.

Agree. I love animals like anyone else but I think PETA takes it a little too far sometimes. Remember when Obama swatted a fly?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/1 ... 17162.html


Sometimes to treat certain diseases or test things, animals are the only way. I mean, how many mice are there in the world? A hell of a lot more than humans. Would you rather they test something on a human child?

CJMST3K

Godfather. wrote:

EddieLedBetter wrote:

What are some of you PETA people's thoughts on lab animal testing geared in the direction of protecting the human race from, lets say, Anthrax?

I personally think if you value an animal life over a human life you are nuttier than squirrel shit. I once heard a PETA rep say after Steve Irwin died that they were glad to see him go because he pestered animals. Really?? Glad to see a wife and 2 kids grow up without a husband or father because of some souless animals. The guy brought awareness to animals not destruction.

I think in some cases animal testing is a necessary evil.

Godfather.

I hope human testing is a more necessary evil. At least we'd be testing the same species.

Pepe Silvia

cropduster82 wrote:

Agree. I love animals like anyone else but I think PETA takes it a little too far sometimes. Remember when Obama swatted a fly?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/1 ... 17162.html

over the summer somone had a bad habit of leaving the door open and a lot of flies collected in the house....someone bought a fly swatter and 1 day i swatted a bunch of them in the kitchen then went back to the living room. i had poured a glass of water before and took a sip while watching something on my computer....took another sip and as i pulled it away out of the corner of my eye i saw a dead fly floating in my glass! :shock:

Commy

Godfather. wrote:

EddieLedBetter wrote:

What are some of you PETA people's thoughts on lab animal testing geared in the direction of protecting the human race from, lets say, Anthrax?

I personally think if you value an animal life over a human life you are nuttier than squirrel shit. I once heard a PETA rep say after Steve Irwin died that they were glad to see him go because he pestered animals. Really?? Glad to see a wife and 2 kids grow up without a husband or father because of some souless animals. The guy brought awareness to animals not destruction.

I think in some cases animal testing is a necessary evil.

Godfather.

yeah the wonderful idea someone came up with to bash moneky heads with hammers to treat skull fractures.


without PETA things like that would still be going on.

CJMST3K

Commy wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

EddieLedBetter wrote:

What are some of you PETA people's thoughts on lab animal testing geared in the direction of protecting the human race from, lets say, Anthrax?

I personally think if you value an animal life over a human life you are nuttier than squirrel shit. I once heard a PETA rep say after Steve Irwin died that they were glad to see him go because he pestered animals. Really?? Glad to see a wife and 2 kids grow up without a husband or father because of some souless animals. The guy brought awareness to animals not destruction.

I think in some cases animal testing is a necessary evil.

Godfather.

yeah the wonderful idea someone came up with to bash moneky heads with hammers to treat skull fractures.


without PETA things like that would still be going on.

Or GM using monkeys in automobile crash tests instead of crash dummies.

gimmesometruth27

"John Burroughs has stated that experimental study of animals in captivity is absolutely useless. Their character, their habits, their appetites undergo a complete transformation when torn from their soil in field and forest. With human nature caged in a narrow space, whipped daily into submission, how can we speak of its potentialities?" ~ Emma Goldman

redrock

CJMST3K wrote:

I hope human testing is a more necessary evil. At least we'd be testing the same species.

I suppose 'clinical trials' of drugs, etc. is testing on the same species, though of course there has been some development and testing before that. 'Back in the days', the medical research profession did not have any other option but to test on animals. Now, most testing can be done in labs without them. Testing whether a shampoo stings your eyes by squirting some in a rabbit's eyes is not necessary.

Though an animal lover, etc. I do not support PETA. They have lost a lot of credibility due to some very stupid and unethical (yes, unethical) actions. To me they are no better than the pro life people advocating the killing of abortion doctors. There are far better organisations who actually work for the benefit of the animals.

Franny

I remember when pamela Anderson came to Australia for Big Brother and went off half-cocked into a KFC store on the Gold Coast protesting KFC's treatmernt of chooks.....she made a real fool of herself that time with information that was not relevant to the poultry industry in Australia or to KFC. KFC don't own any poultry farms here.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=595579

Unfortunately there are groups who are in there doing good, only to have the hard work trashed by stupidity such as that.

And yes, whilst I am an animal lover, unfortunately I do believe that there are instances where animal testing is necessary. I mean rats and mice breed like there is no tomorrow, they share a lot of genetic material to that of humans,and respond similarly to what humans would.