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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jeanwah wrote:
    that was a great video, and I loved story of stuff.
    I agree with what Annie said and others on this forum, until the gov't stops subsidizing fossil fuels, we'll never really make any progress. I believe that the ultimate solution will come from people who are not affiliated with money or power whatsoever, as those in power only seek to change things if it makes them more money. The problem with an actual real solution and acting on it, is that the fossil fuel industry has Washington by the balls, that's how big their lobbying power is. If any emission regulations are placed on them by gov't, they'll just pay more money until they get their way. I've read a lot about King Coal, and that's just the way it is. Mountain top removal for coal mining has devastated many regions and have killed mine workers. Think the bigwigs care? Not one bit. If there's a way to drop-kick the fossil fuel industry, only then we can make real change.

    i just find their videos to be so clever in that they take fairly complex things and simplify it

    absolutely - i've always said that gov'ts these days are large corporations run by corporations ... without gov't assistance many of them wouldn't make any money ...

    as far as the climate crisis - our first priority is to understand we are in one ... secondly, we need to pay the true cost of our consumption ... a poster mentioned the distribution of wealth ... at the end of the day - the third world countries are suffering the consequences of our consumption right now ... many african countries are suffering yet another drought - they can't grow food and starvation is yet again significant ... it's not right
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    polaris_x wrote:
    as far as the climate crisis - our first priority is to understand we are in one ... secondly, we need to pay the true cost of our consumption ... a poster mentioned the distribution of wealth ... at the end of the day - the third world countries are suffering the consequences of our consumption right now ... many african countries are suffering yet another drought - they can't grow food and starvation is yet again significant ... it's not right
    Yet, in another twist, we keep some 3rd world countries alive due to our excessive consumption: In Brazil, for example, what keeps the majority of their citizens working is manufacturing; they manufacture directly for U.S. consumption. Our disgusting habits keep their people employed.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Yet, in another twist, we keep some 3rd world countries alive due to our excessive consumption: In Brazil, for example, what keeps the majority of their citizens working is manufacturing; they manufacture directly for U.S. consumption. Our disgusting habits keep their people employed.

    it's a false existence!
  • phillypjhead
    phillypjhead Posts: 123
    as for nuclear i am against that as well. we should focus on non polluting alternatives or at least ones cleaner than oil and nuclear (which we have no place to store the waste, i read a report from some governmental agency 2 or more years ago saying Yucca Mountain is porous and waste has been leaking so it can't be a permanent solution for storage. i think it may have been the department of energy.

    We should make all our electricity with nuclear,take all the nuclear waste, put it into rockets, and shoot it into the sun. Problem solved, just like in Superman 4!

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