"The List"

E.K

ZiggyStar wrote:

vital5 wrote:

Is that what the rubbish in the line was? your clothes?

Hmmm....let me think....nope, in Sydney and Brisbane I just did bjs so the rubbish was most definitely not my clothes. Security in Auckland and Christchurch weren't quite as easy though....fucking kiwis.... :roll: ....so the rubbish in Auckland or Christchurch may have been my clothes!

You sure it was just BJs at the Brisbane show? There were used condoms and condom wrappers in the portaloos there. :P

Oh and btw I got to QSAC at 4.45 pm, sat on the lawn near First Aid during Ben Harper's set and still managed to get second behind the rail on Stone's side just past the screen.

Paul Andrews

You stay classy, San Diego...

zenith

doompony wrote:

i thought the list was a great idea in auckland.. we got lost because none of us were aucklanders and auckland is a WHORE to drive in... we were getting number updates on where the list was up to and arrived just before midday and still were in the 30s... then we got to sit under trees and relax. maybe the list works REALLY well when there aren't many 10c members?

plus the merch runs helped out more than just the people doing them in many cases...

aukland was by far the most laid back wait i had - lying on the grass, hardly anyone lined up .... its a shame they wernt all like that

ZiggyStar

E.K wrote:

You sure it was just BJs at the Brisbane show? There were used condoms and condom wrappers in the portaloos there. :P

Condoms....where's the fun in using condoms? They definitely weren't mine. I like to live on the edge!!



** and for people who don't know me on the board, this is all a big joke!

doompony

zenith wrote:

doompony wrote:

i thought the list was a great idea in auckland.. we got lost because none of us were aucklanders and auckland is a WHORE to drive in... we were getting number updates on where the list was up to and arrived just before midday and still were in the 30s... then we got to sit under trees and relax. maybe the list works REALLY well when there aren't many 10c members?

plus the merch runs helped out more than just the people doing them in many cases...

aukland was by far the most laid back wait i had - lying on the grass, hardly anyone lined up .... its a shame they wernt all like that

FINALLY AUCKLAND WINS SOMETHING!! *mutters about everyone being all sexed up about the stupid chch show*

zenith

ZiggyStar wrote:

Condoms....where's the fun in using condoms? They definitely weren't mine. I like to live on the edge!!

all the condoms got blown up and bounced around the crowd in christchurch .... so there was either a lot of people living on the edge, or a big shortage of beach balls in that town

LeatherMosquitoMan

ZiggyStar wrote:

** and for people who don't know me on the board, this is all a big joke!

Yeah, you haven't been like this since high school

ZiggyStar

LeatherMosquitoMan wrote:

ZiggyStar wrote:

** and for people who don't know me on the board, this is all a big joke!

Yeah, you haven't been like this since high school

:? Shhhhh....

Nickrand

The point of having a list is to self-impose some organization on the Ten Club line. It's more fair to have a list than to not have one.

However, having a list alone doesn't do much without writing your number from the list on your hand. That's something that we do in Europe and did on this OZ/NZ tour as well. Otherwise, people will join the queue from the side and will say that they are on the list. And in Brisbane, a security guard actually ordered us according to our numbers just before the gates opened.

The result is how it should have been. People who got in line early in the morning got into the arena before people who showed up in the afternoon.

I've been to many GA PJ shows with and without lists. Having a list and writing numbers on hands is the fairest method of organizing the queue. Without it, it's a free-for-all.

vedder_soup

a list only works as long as people respect it. it means that the people who put in the hard yards and the long hours get up front.
it is up to everyone to police themselves, and respect peoples positions in the line.

Sydney was good, it worked, and i did not see too many people around me just be fore we went in who had not been around us all day.

Melbourne there was no list, things were pretty badly handled by the venue a bit as well, and there seemed to be a lot of people coming in, +1's and other friends turning up mid afternoon when the others had been there since morning. It was ok through the day, but when they moved the line it went shit, and the 2 line sort of setup from 10c in melbourne did not help either.

doompony

my +1 joined the back of the line when they arrived a few minutes before we got let in. the other +1 i was with ended up getting in before us but only because the idiot staff at mt smart thought she worked for the fanclub and let her in a different entrance. she was waiting for us when we came in.

ZiggyStar

doompony wrote:

my +1 joined the back of the line when they arrived a few minutes before we got let in. the other +1 i was with ended up getting in before us but only because the idiot staff at mt smart thought she worked for the fanclub and let her in a different entrance. she was waiting for us when we came in.

Was that Shelly?

doompony

shirley. yeah. she said to whoever she talked to "i'm with the fanclub" meaning... i have a fanclub ticket and they didn't ask for anything else.. no ID.. proof.. nothing. just gave her a staff wristband and sent her on her merry way. good thing i'd mentioned to her earlier that we were aiming for the left side infront of cready cuz that's where she was waiting.

ZiggyStar

doompony wrote:

shirley. yeah. she said to whoever she talked to "i'm with the fanclub" meaning... i have a fanclub ticket and they didn't ask for anything else.. no ID.. proof.. nothing. just gave her a staff wristband and sent her on her merry way. good thing i'd mentioned to her earlier that we were aiming for the left side infront of cready cuz that's where she was waiting.

That's right.....Shirley! I was wondering how she got there! Fuck....she could have got us backstage!

doompony

fucking tinny cow. she got there while we were waiting in the "holding area" by the super top... she'd texted me to say something about wristbands while we were getting let in.

Easties

The list is a bit of a waste of time. We saw that when you compared shows that didn't have the list to ones that did there really wasn't much difference. People in the line knew if you had been there in front of them (especially right at the front), and were pretty much all respectful. You'll always get a +1 jumping in somewhere too. When it all boils down to it the numbers mean fuck all except it makes a few peeps feel a little more at ease if someone wants to challenge them if they walk back in trying to get to their original spot. Plus I'm sure there are a select few that get to pat their 'pj devotion' egos by having a nice single digit written on their hand Don't deny it

Point taken that not all Adults act like Adults but it's important to assume and act as though most are. Swings and roundabouts, it all evens out somewhere along the line. It's a fact of life, that no matter where you at at one point in time there will be a few people that want to lie, cheat or steal to get ahead. In general I choose to believe most people are decent, especially 10C. Does it really matter anyway if you end up a few people to the left/right/back? No list will prevent that conclusively from happening in my eyes.

ZiggyStar

Easties wrote:

The list is a bit of a waste of time. We saw that when you compared shows that didn't have the list to ones that did there really wasn't much difference.

Plus I'm sure there are a select few that get to pat their 'pj devotion' egos by having a nice single digit written on their hand Don't deny it

Does it really matter anyway if you end up a few people to the left/right/back? No list will prevent that conclusively from happening in my eyes.

I didn't give a fuck about egos or numbers on my hand. I gave a fuck about getting the rail in front of Ed or Mike....which the list enabled me to do 3 out of 3 times.

I'm 5 foot 1....being a few people back makes a HUGE difference to me. If I would have been even one person back in Auckland, I would have been fucking smashed and would have definitely gone over the rail to get away from the fuckwits behind us. Luckily, I had a big mate behind me who protected me the entire concert by putting his hands either side of me on the rail and he did not move an inch the entire concert. He got pretty hammered by the people behind him though....so much so that he said there was no chance in hell he was staying up the front in Christchurch. Luckily he did though because the crowd in Christchurch was awesome!

I'll say it again....the list ROCKS and the list made my entire tour tbh....especially in Auckland and Christchurch. :thumbup: I can't see any negatives to the list at all. I also didn't see anyone with a big ego over the list --- just massive Pearl Jam fans who wanted the same as me --- the best position they could possibly get.

illegal pants

ahhhh the list generally worked ok

i disliked the Melbourne lineup when about 50 people came out of nowhere up in front of us... :?

i guess Melbourne is a bad example since i just about left my spot up front to go pee during under pressure :?

illegal pants

ZiggyStar wrote:

If I would have been even one person back in Auckland, I would have been fucking smashed and would have definitely gone over the rail to get away from the fuckwits behind us. Luckily, I had a big mate behind me who protected me the entire concert by putting his hands either wide of me on the rail and he did not move an inch the entire concert.

Pete saved my life too... forever in debt for him swapping with me

Pete saves lives... bumper sticker

doompony

the idea of having to sit in a line in the direct sun on concrete sounds a bit awful considering how nice it was to get your number then go plonk yourself down on the grass under a tree in auckland eh?