Food labels For Palestine & Settlements
Byrnzie
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This looks like a start. Though an outright boycott, followed by tough sanctions would be more appropriate, as was adopted in the case of Apartheid South Africa:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8407289.stm
Friday, 11 December 2009
Food labels advice change over Palestinian territories
UK unions have voted to boycott Israeli settlement goods
UK food labels are set to distinguish between goods from Palestinians in the occupied territories and produce from Israeli settlements.
Food packaging guidelines advise a change from labels usually only naming Israel or West Bank as the source.
The government said it was opposed to a boycott of Israeli goods, but that the settlements posed an obstacle to peace.
The Palestinian general delegation to the UK welcomed the move, but Israel said it was "extremely disappointed".
All Jewish settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.
The new guidelines recommend that food labels in supermarkets should bear the phrases "Israeli settlement produce" or "Palestinian produce".
Manuel Hassassian, Palestinian general Delegate to the UK, said: "We welcome this. We have been calling for this for two years, since we began lobbying major British supermarkets when we discovered that they were routinely selling products marked 'produce of the West Bank' which were in fact the produce of illegal settlements.
"This is a very positive response by the British government."
But the Israeli embassy said it was "extremely disappointed".
"We think this is singling out Israel and it plays into the hands of those who are calling for a boycott of Israeli goods," it said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8407289.stm
Friday, 11 December 2009
Food labels advice change over Palestinian territories
UK unions have voted to boycott Israeli settlement goods
UK food labels are set to distinguish between goods from Palestinians in the occupied territories and produce from Israeli settlements.
Food packaging guidelines advise a change from labels usually only naming Israel or West Bank as the source.
The government said it was opposed to a boycott of Israeli goods, but that the settlements posed an obstacle to peace.
The Palestinian general delegation to the UK welcomed the move, but Israel said it was "extremely disappointed".
All Jewish settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.
The new guidelines recommend that food labels in supermarkets should bear the phrases "Israeli settlement produce" or "Palestinian produce".
Manuel Hassassian, Palestinian general Delegate to the UK, said: "We welcome this. We have been calling for this for two years, since we began lobbying major British supermarkets when we discovered that they were routinely selling products marked 'produce of the West Bank' which were in fact the produce of illegal settlements.
"This is a very positive response by the British government."
But the Israeli embassy said it was "extremely disappointed".
"We think this is singling out Israel and it plays into the hands of those who are calling for a boycott of Israeli goods," it said.
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Notice that in every single BBC article discussing the Israel=Palestine issue we find this same sentence:
'All Jewish settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.'
Why does the BBC think it's relevant that Israel disputes international law? This follows the same kind of thinking that states that the Occupied territories are 'disputed'. They're not disputed; the settlements are illegal, and the land belongs to the Palestinians.
During World War II is anyone aware of any Western Media outlet stating that 'The Nazi occupation of France is illegal under international law, though the Nazi's dispute this'?
The BBC is irrelevant. They're just functionaries with no balls and no moral conviction - as was demonstrated clearly during the incident with Jeremy Bowen a year or so ago.Post edited by Byrnzie on0 -
From the Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/de ... ettlements
"This is emphatically not about calling for a boycott of Israel," a Foreign Office spokesman said. "We believe that would do nothing to advance the peace process. We oppose any such boycott of Israel. We believe consumers should be able to choose for themselves what produce they buy. We have been very clear both in public and in private that settlements are illegal and an obstacle to peace."
The TUC general secretary, Brendan Barber, welcomed the public clarification that marking produce from illegal settlements on occupied territory as "produce of Israel" was illegal, but said the government should have gone further.
Barbara Stocking, Oxfam's chief executive, said: "Profiting from the goods produced in the illegal settlements is contrary to international law and they should be banned from sale in the European Union, as they are in Palestine. Trade in such goods undermines the viability of a sovereign Palestinian state and holds back the peace process.
"We support the right of consumers to know the origin of the products they purchase. Trade with Israeli settlements – which are illegal under international law – contributes to their economic viability and serves to legitimise them. It is also clear from our development work in West Bank communities that settlements have led to the denial of rights and create poverty for many Palestinians."
...The Palestine Solidarity Campaign said it welcomed the new guidance but urged Defra to go further: "The government must seek prosecutions of companies which smuggle settlement goods in under false labels.
"We have received many calls from people who were distressed when they bought goods labelled 'Produce of the West Bank' because they thought they were aiding the Palestinian economy, then realised they were economically aiding Israel's illegal occupation.
"Particularly following Israel's massacre in Gaza, consumers have been shocked at Israel's war crimes and want to take action. They do not want to feel complicit in Israel's occupation by buying stolen goods."0 -
Thanks for posting - this was a very informative read.0
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it is a start.
but i can't believe the bbc is even talking about it....they refused to air a plea for aid during the massacre of gaza....tha'ts how pro-israel they usually are.0 -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8407832.stm
Friday, 11 December 2009
Fire attack on West Bank mosque - settlers suspected
Jewish settlers are suspected of being behind an attack on a mosque in the north of the occupied West Bank.
Attackers set fire to a library and prayer mats, and sprayed graffiti in Hebrew at the scene.
Palestinian residents of the village of Yasuf clashed briefly with Israeli soldiers investigating the attack.
Attacks on Palestinians by settlers are increasing. A number of incidents have been captured on video and received wide publicity.
Israeli human rights groups have accused the police and army of running inadequate investigations into such incidents.
One group reported that nine out of 10 investigations into alleged attacks on Palestinians by settlers end without anyone being charged.
Some hard-line settlers advocate a "price tag" policy under which they attack Palestinians in retaliation for any Israeli government measure they see as threatening Jewish settlements.
One of the slogans sprayed on the wall of the mosque in Yasuf read: "Get ready to pay the price," Israeli public radio reported. Another read: "We will burn you all."
In a statement, the Israeli military said it "views the incident gravely" and that security forces are working to locate the perpetrators.
But the local Palestinian governor, Munir Abushi, accused the Israeli security forces of doing too little to protect Palestinians from settler attacks.
On Wednesday, thousands of Jewish settlers and their supporters staged a rally in Jerusalem in protest at a recently-announced curb on settlement building in the West Bank.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has ordered a 10-month lull in permits for new settlement homes in the West Bank, not including East Jerusalem.
The order followed US and Palestinian calls for a total freeze in settlement building.
Palestinian officials have refused to rejoin peace talks until a total freeze is imposed.
All Jewish settlements in the West Bank, including Jerusalem, are illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.Post edited by Byrnzie on0 -
does anyone have a link to understanding the barcodes to tell what country a product was made? i used to have one but i've lost it but i think Israel was 729
edit http://www.makebarcode.com/specs/ean_cc.html
http://www.adams1.com/upccode.htmldon't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
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Byrnzie wrote:Notice that in every single BBC article discussing the Israel=Palestine issue we find this same sentence:
'All Jewish settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.'
Why does the BBC think it's relevant that Israel disputes international law? This follows the same kind of thinking that states that the Occupied territories are 'disputed'. They're not disputed, the settlements are illegal, and the land belongs to the Palestinians.
During World War II is anyone aware of any Western Media outlet stating that 'The Nazi occupation of France is illegal under international law, though the Nazi's dispute this'?
The BBC is irrelevant. They're just functionaries with no balls and no moral conviction - as was demonstrated clearly during the incident with Jeremy Bowen a year or so ago.
HOW DARE YOU COMPARE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS TO NAZI OCCUPATION!!!
IM SICK OF YOU AND YOUR PROPAGANDA
YOU ARE ANTI-SEMITIC AND YOU NEED THERAPY AND NOT FROM NORMAN FINKLEFUCKSome die just to live0 -
ogre1213 wrote:Byrnzie wrote:Notice that in every single BBC article discussing the Israel=Palestine issue we find this same sentence:
'All Jewish settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.'
Why does the BBC think it's relevant that Israel disputes international law? This follows the same kind of thinking that states that the Occupied territories are 'disputed'. They're not disputed, the settlements are illegal, and the land belongs to the Palestinians.
During World War II is anyone aware of any Western Media outlet stating that 'The Nazi occupation of France is illegal under international law, though the Nazi's dispute this'?
The BBC is irrelevant. They're just functionaries with no balls and no moral conviction - as was demonstrated clearly during the incident with Jeremy Bowen a year or so ago.
HOW DARE YOU COMPARE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS TO NAZI OCCUPATION!!!
IM SICK OF YOU AND YOUR PROPAGANDA
YOU ARE ANTI-SEMITIC AND YOU NEED THERAPY AND NOT FROM NORMAN FINKLEFUCK
I didn't 'compare' the settlements to the Nazi occupation.
Still, if you think the Nazi occupation of France was worse for the average citizen than the occupied territories then go ahead and explain how it was worse.
Then when you're finished you can explain how I'm Anti-semitic.
Oh, and nice use of bold type.0 -
Byrnzie wrote:ogre1213 wrote:Byrnzie wrote:Notice that in every single BBC article discussing the Israel=Palestine issue we find this same sentence:
'All Jewish settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.'
Why does the BBC think it's relevant that Israel disputes international law? This follows the same kind of thinking that states that the Occupied territories are 'disputed'. They're not disputed, the settlements are illegal, and the land belongs to the Palestinians.
During World War II is anyone aware of any Western Media outlet stating that 'The Nazi occupation of France is illegal under international law, though the Nazi's dispute this'?
The BBC is irrelevant. They're just functionaries with no balls and no moral conviction - as was demonstrated clearly during the incident with Jeremy Bowen a year or so ago.
HOW DARE YOU COMPARE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS TO NAZI OCCUPATION!!!
IM SICK OF YOU AND YOUR PROPAGANDA
YOU ARE ANTI-SEMITIC AND YOU NEED THERAPY AND NOT FROM NORMAN FINKLEFUCK
I didn't 'compare' the settlements to the Nazi occupation.
Still, if you think the Nazi occupation of France was worse for the average citizen than the occupied territories then go ahead and explain how it was worse.
Then when you're finished you can explain how I'm Anti-semitic.
Oh, and nice use of bold type.
+10 Very good points- Couldn't agree with you more.0 -
ogre1213 wrote:HOW DARE YOU COMPARE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS TO NAZI OCCUPATION!!!
http://current.com/1neuq4c
UN Special Rapporteur Likens Gaza to Warsaw Ghetto
January 22, 2009
There is more than enough evidence that Israel committed war crimes in its three week-long offensive into Gaza, says a UN investigator.
UN special rapporteur Richard Falk called for an independent inquiry into Israel's violation of international humanitarian law.
Falk said Israel's actions against the besieged Gazans are reminiscent of "the worst kind of international memories of the Warsaw Ghetto" which included the starvation and murder of Polish Jews by Nazi Germany in World War Two.
"There could have been temporary provision at least made for children, disabled, sick civilians to leave, even if where they left to was southern Israel," said the Jewish American academic on Thursday.
Falk, who was denied entry to Israel in December, said Gazans may have been mentally scarred for life because Israel made no effort to allow civilians to escape.
Israeli officials moved closer to being prosecuted for war crimes after Norwegian medics in Gaza found traces of depleted uranium on Gaza victims, suggesting that Israel used the illegal weapons in its war on the impoverished territory, which houses some 1.5 million Palestinians.
According to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), there is a "high risk of developing cancer from exposure to radiation emitted by ... depleted uranium weapons. This risk is assumed to be proportional to the dose received."
The Geneva Convention has classified depleted uranium ammunitions as 'illegal weapons of mass destruction' due to their high radioactivity and toxicity.
Israel faces potential war crimes charges over its excessive use of other controversial weapons on the densely-populated coastal strip.
Human rights group Amnesty International has also touched on the issue, saying that Tel Aviv used white phosphorus munitions "indiscriminately and illegally" in overcrowded areas of Gaza.
"The repeated use [of White Phosphorus] in this manner, despite evidence of its indiscriminate effects and its toll on civilians, is a war crime," said Donatella Rovera of the Amnesty International.
White phosphorus is a high-incendiary substance that bursts into all-consuming flames that cannot be extinguished with water, burning flesh to the bone and often leading to death.
Israel launched its Operation Cast Lead on December 27 to allegedly defend its territories from Hamas rockets, which were fired in retaliation for Israel's violation of a ceasefire that had then been in place.
Falk, dismissed Israel's argument that the assault was for self-defense, saying that "the UN charter, and international law, does not give Israel the legal foundation for claiming self-defense."Post edited by Byrnzie on0 -
ogre1213 wrote:YOU ARE ANTI-SEMITIC AND YOU NEED THERAPY AND NOT FROM NORMAN FINKLEFUCK
I wonder if Jewish intellectuals who are critical of the Israeli occupation such as Norman Finkelstein, Illan Pappe, Noam Chomsky, and Michael Neumann are also Anti-Semitic?
I wonder if these orthodox Jews are also Anti-Semitic?:
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Byrnzie wrote:ogre1213 wrote:Byrnzie wrote:Notice that in every single BBC article discussing the Israel=Palestine issue we find this same sentence:
'All Jewish settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.'
Why does the BBC think it's relevant that Israel disputes international law? This follows the same kind of thinking that states that the Occupied territories are 'disputed'. They're not disputed, the settlements are illegal, and the land belongs to the Palestinians.
During World War II is anyone aware of any Western Media outlet stating that 'The Nazi occupation of France is illegal under international law, though the Nazi's dispute this'?
The BBC is irrelevant. They're just functionaries with no balls and no moral conviction - as was demonstrated clearly during the incident with Jeremy Bowen a year or so ago.
HOW DARE YOU COMPARE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS TO NAZI OCCUPATION!!!
IM SICK OF YOU AND YOUR PROPAGANDA
YOU ARE ANTI-SEMITIC AND YOU NEED THERAPY AND NOT FROM NORMAN FINKLEFUCK
I didn't 'compare' the settlements to the Nazi occupation.
Still, if you think the Nazi occupation of France was worse for the average citizen than the occupied territories then go ahead and explain how it was worse.
Then when you're finished you can explain how I'm Anti-semitic.
Oh, and nice use of bold type.
i dont want to fight with you
i am trying to show you who is good and who is evil, who is right and who is wrong
what you read is propaganda
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles ... it_All.asp
http://www.aish.com/jw/id/48890577.html
you are reading articles from jihadist websites
they got you, they suckered you into their lies and into their false pictures
they brainwashed you into being sympathetic towards them
you cannot compare it to the holocaust, they systematic murdered of over 6 million jews at around the same time jackie robinson was breaking the color barrier in baseball
read this:
Also, can we please rule out any claims that the Israelis behave like the Nazis, that Gaza is a 'concentration camp' etc etc. This is emotionalised agitprop piffle, and only shows that those who use it have become so hot-eyed that they have lost all sense of proportion. The German industrialised massacre of European Jewry was a unique event, and it is a demonstration of ignorance about the past and about the present, plus a severe case of language inflation, to try and equate it with anything now taking place. The moment Israel starts getting its non-Jewish citizens to wear Yellow Crescent badges, rounds them up by force, takes them to extermination camps and gasses them to death by the million, then it will be true to say that Israel is behaving as the Nazis did. As long as it doesn't do that, it won't be.
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/ ... -town.html
this is for you too:
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles ... arison.asp
as long as you keep comparing ANYTHING to the murder of over 6 million jews
and the murder of 11-17 million people (including all types of people, handicapped, soviets, catholics, homosexuals etc.) YOU WILL ALWAYS BE ANTI-SEMITIC
and as for those Jews in the picture, i don't know if you know this but those are messianic Jews who believe the Jewish messiah cannot come if Israel already exists, therefore they want Israel to disappear so that when the messiah can come and he will bring in the real Israel, the extremely religious Israel and rebuild the third temple and bring all the Jews in the world out of exile and to their homeland of Israel
please stop picking on us:
Muslim countries - 48 countries - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_Muslim_countries
Arab countries - 23 countries - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ar ... population
Jewish countries - 1 country - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
1 damned country. And the greedy Arab Muslims want as much of it as possible.Some die just to live0 -
how dose affect America ?
seems the people of the middle east have been at war with each other for ever,
then they come to our country and start demanding all kids of stuff from America
and it dose not set well with me,...just my 2cents
Godfather.0 -
does.Godfather. wrote:how dose affect America ?
seems the people of the middle east have been at war with each other for ever,
then they come to our country and start demanding all kids of stuff from America
and it dose not set well with me,...just my 2cents
Godfather.
the US is funding the siege of gaza, if you're an american you are paying for brutality and repression and misery.
someitmes its the US and Israel alone agianst he world..were it not for the US Israel would not be getting away with its crimes.0 -
Commy wrote:
does.Godfather. wrote:how dose affect America ?
seems the people of the middle east have been at war with each other for ever,
then they come to our country and start demanding all kids of stuff from America
and it dose not set well with me,...just my 2cents
Godfather.
the US is funding the siege of gaza, if you're an american you are paying for brutality and repression and misery.
someitmes its the US and Israel alone agianst he world..were it not for the US Israel would not be getting away with its crimes.
wish I knew the game better all I really know is what I live and see, I hear people like your self that tell
me about the US involvement in the different conflicts and I also understand the media tells us very little
of what they know and most times they don't get the straight truth from who ever in the government it is
that feeds the media machine.
it angers me to see people come to our country and bring their bull shit with them and then complain about
Americans and the way we live and believe....they can all go back to where they came from if they're not
happy here with our laws and beliefs.
Godfather.0 -
It's amazing, you have such a wrong understanding of the issue, that it would take days to convince you you're wrong because we would have to go back to the beginning of this issue. As far as I'm concerned, the correct way, or maybe its just the easiest way to respond to you is just to tell you that the number of Muslim/Arab countries is irrelevant. There were people in a land. Israelis ethnically cleansed them and are now currently occupying and oppressing them. If Israel wants peace, it can have it, it just needs to stop oppressing the Palestinians.ogre1213 wrote:please stop picking on us:
Muslim countries - 48 countries - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_Muslim_countries
Arab countries - 23 countries - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ar ... population
Jewish countries - 1 country - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
1 damned country. And the greedy Arab Muslims want as much of it as possible.0 -
Byrnzie wrote:This looks like a start. Though an outright boycott, followed by tough sanctions would be more appropriate, as was adopted in the case of Apartheid South Africa:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8407289.stm
Friday, 11 December 2009
Food labels advice change over Palestinian territories
UK unions have voted to boycott Israeli settlement goods
UK food labels are set to distinguish between goods from Palestinians in the occupied territories and produce from Israeli settlements.
Food packaging guidelines advise a change from labels usually only naming Israel or West Bank as the source.
The government said it was opposed to a boycott of Israeli goods, but that the settlements posed an obstacle to peace.
The Palestinian general delegation to the UK welcomed the move, but Israel said it was "extremely disappointed".
All Jewish settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.
The new guidelines recommend that food labels in supermarkets should bear the phrases "Israeli settlement produce" or "Palestinian produce".
Manuel Hassassian, Palestinian general Delegate to the UK, said: "We welcome this. We have been calling for this for two years, since we began lobbying major British supermarkets when we discovered that they were routinely selling products marked 'produce of the West Bank' which were in fact the produce of illegal settlements.
"This is a very positive response by the British government."
But the Israeli embassy said it was "extremely disappointed".
"We think this is singling out Israel and it plays into the hands of those who are calling for a boycott of Israeli goods," it said.
boohoo.. i dont care if israel is disappointed extremely or otherwise.
and hello? of course its singling out israel. duh.hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
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ogre1213 wrote:i am trying to show you who is good and who is evil, who is right and who is wrong
I don't believe that either Jews or Palestinians are evil. So don't waste your time.ogre1213 wrote:you are reading articles from jihadist websites
The BBC, and the Guardian are not Jihadist websites.ogre1213 wrote:they systematic murdered of over 6 million jews at around the same time jackie robinson was breaking the color barrier in baseball
What does this have to do with Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza?ogre1213 wrote:Also, can we please rule out any claims that the Israelis behave like the Nazis, that Gaza is a 'concentration camp'
as long as you keep comparing ANYTHING to the murder of over 6 million jews
and the murder of 11-17 million people (including all types of people, handicapped, soviets, catholics, homosexuals etc.) YOU WILL ALWAYS BE ANTI-SEMITIC
I've been debating this issue for years and I've never heard anyone say that Gaza resembles a concentration camp.
Still, nice try.ogre1213 wrote:please stop picking on us:
Muslim countries - 48 countries - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_Muslim_countries
Arab countries - 23 countries - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ar ... population
Jewish countries - 1 country - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
1 damned country. And the greedy Arab Muslims want as much of it as possible.
There are also millions of Jews living peacefully in countries all over the world, such as the U.S.
You also forgot to mention how this has anything to do with the illegal occupation and ongoing land-grab.0 -
Godfather. wrote:how dose affect America ?
It effects America because it's one of the main reasons why American's are hated by so many people around the world. Remember 9/11? American support of the Israeli occupation is what mostly fuels all of the Arab hatred of the U.S. You'd be far better off joining the rest of the world and supporting U.N resolution 242 instead of unilaterally vetoing it every year and blocking any chance at peace.
Michael Neumann:
'...America would be far better off on the other side of the Israel/Palestine conflict. It would instantly gain the warm friendship of Arab oil producers and obtain far more valuable allies in the war on terror: not only the governments of the entire Muslim world, but a good portion of the Muslim fundamentalist movement. The war on terror, which seems so unwinnable, might well be won at nominal cost, and quickly. Perhaps, the most likely scenario would simply involve an embargo on Israel. Sponsored by the U.S in cooperation with the United Nations. There is a chance that Israel would prove intransigent; it has great military resources and could probably buy the materials it needs through sales of military technology. If this happens, Israel might have to be made the object of the kind of coalition forged against Iraq in the first Gulf war. Of course, against Israel the coalition would be far broader and stronger, including all the countries of the former Soviet Union, Iran, Libya, Pakistan, and many others. And though Israel is quite strong enough to persist in it's policis without U.S support, it could not stand up to such a coalition. Israel would be forced to follow it's own best interests and make peace.
Perhaps most important, switching sides would revitalize America's foundering efforts at non-proliferation. There are two man reasons why other countries resist these efforts: fear of American attack, and the outrageous exemption of Israel from non-proliferation initiatives. It is simply absurd to suppose that any serious effort to stem the development of nuclear weapons can proceed in the absence of any attempt to disarm Israel, which is estimated to possess between 200 and 500 nuclear warheads. Having launched it's own satellites, it clearly has the capacity to hit targets anywhere in the world, and it possesses cruise missiles that have hit targets 950 miles away. Until it is forced either to disarm or to establish good relations with it's neighbours, the pace of proliferation will simply increase. On the other hand, U.S efforts to neutralize the Israeli nuclear threat would win support for non-proliferation efforts from Pakistan and Iran. In these circumstances, in a radically different political environment, the problem of North Korea would no longer seem intractable. Meanwhile, the U.S contents itself with hollow victories such as Libya's recent gesture, the nuclear disarmament of a country that never had nuclear weapons in the first place.
In short, one has only to conceive the end of the U.S-Israel alliance to be overwhelmed with the benefits of such a move - very likely, even to Israel itself. That once-beneficial alliance, a legacy of the Cold War, has turned poisonous to America's security and it's future.'0 -
how about they stop firing rockets at israel so maybe they could trust them
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1134689.html
"The Israel Defense Forces last Sunday identified a rocket fired by militants in the Gaza Strip as a Russian-made S5K, the type used in battle in Iran and Afghanistan.
The IDF said it was the first time this type of weapon has been fired from the territory. "
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