Sick of the corporate world...

Jearlpam0925

To the person who said work doesn't have to define you and will be something to afford your joys in your time off. I can't disagree with this enough. Just make a plan for yourself - a real fucking, serious, plan. Stick to it. The point is to not make work your life, but to make life your work. Think about it that way. I know that's incredibly cheesey, but it's the truth.

inmytree

soulsinging wrote:

I don't think that's necessarily true. Some jobs are truly soul-crushing. I've never seen anyone unhappier than my ex at her current job. The company has been so awful that even in the worst economy in decades, they've had a dozen people out of a company of about 60 choose to quit within the last 6 months. Several people there have developed ulcers and my ex nearly developed an ulcer in her EYE due to this place. That's beyond just normal work reality.

Also, as much as I bitched about waiting tables, I was happier with that gig than I ever have been at any office job I ever held. Sometimes it's not as simple as just "suck it up, it's work and all jobs suck." That's not quite true, some make you more miserable than others.

I don't disagree...I was speaking in general terms...and I've had sole crushing jobs and I've learned from it...mostly, it's what you make it, as well as when it's time to go, it's time to go...

my point is no matter what job someone has, there will be parts that just plain suck and parts that don't...if one lets the just plain suck parts consume them, then they will be miserable...

if one is in a hellish job, they have options...when I was working one of my many hellish/stressful jobs, I quit in my head, did the best I could while I was there, and looked for other employment...

inmytree

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

To the person who said work doesn't have to define you and will be something to afford your joys in your time off. I can't disagree with this enough. Just make a plan for yourself - a real fucking, serious, plan. Stick to it. The point is to not make work your life, but to make life your work. Think about it that way. I know that's incredibly cheesey, but it's the truth.

I don't understand what you a disagreeing with...

I contend life and work can be two very separate things...if one has a stressful job that doesn't need to spill over into their life...just because I had a shitty day at work, it doesn't ruin my evening...

Jearlpam0925

inmytree wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

To the person who said work doesn't have to define you and will be something to afford your joys in your time off. I can't disagree with this enough. Just make a plan for yourself - a real fucking, serious, plan. Stick to it. The point is to not make work your life, but to make life your work. Think about it that way. I know that's incredibly cheesey, but it's the truth.

I don't understand what you a disagreeing with...

I contend life and work can be two very separate things...if one has a stressful job that doesn't need to spill over into their life...just because I had a shitty day at work, it doesn't ruin my evening...

No but to work for the weekends becomes depressing after a while. To work for two lousy weeks of vacation is a sucker's life.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

All I've seen is back stabbing, jealousy, rumours, vulture like behaviour and greed.

Sounds like 90% of the people on this board when they are looking for extra 10club tickets....

hehehehehehehehehehehehe

inmytree

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

inmytree wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

To the person who said work doesn't have to define you and will be something to afford your joys in your time off. I can't disagree with this enough. Just make a plan for yourself - a real fucking, serious, plan. Stick to it. The point is to not make work your life, but to make life your work. Think about it that way. I know that's incredibly cheesey, but it's the truth.

I don't understand what you a disagreeing with...

I contend life and work can be two very separate things...if one has a stressful job that doesn't need to spill over into their life...just because I had a shitty day at work, it doesn't ruin my evening...

No but to work for the weekends becomes depressing after a while. To work for two lousy weeks of vacation is a sucker's life.

I get 3 weeks... anyway, if that's how you look at it, so be it...I'm a glass half full sort of fella, I'm guessing you may be a glass half empty sort of person...

Jearlpam0925

inmytree wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

inmytree wrote:

I don't understand what you a disagreeing with...

I contend life and work can be two very separate things...if one has a stressful job that doesn't need to spill over into their life...just because I had a shitty day at work, it doesn't ruin my evening...

No but to work for the weekends becomes depressing after a while. To work for two lousy weeks of vacation is a sucker's life.

I get 3 weeks... anyway, if that's how you look at it, so be it...I'm a glass half full sort of fella, I'm guessing you may be a glass half empty sort of person...

No, no, no... I make it through a little better because I get 22 vacation days, 10 sick days, and 12 paid holidays. A total of 44 paid days off a year. So I do my best.

Random_Wookie

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

I've been in the corporate world for almost 3 yrs now.
And its taking a toll on my stress levels.
All I've seen is back stabbing, jealousy, rumours, vulture like behaviour and greed.
A sniff of blood and they are all over you like sharks.
You work with the worst lot of people imaginable and question yourself daily, wtf am I doing here, is this what it's about for the next 40 year until retirement?

What to do with myself....
Learn a trade, do a music course, try hard to join a band/start a band?
Lost don't know which direction to go, but never back to corporate world I reckon.
Looks like my university studies were a waste of time.

its called work, i love and hate my job. But I am glad its a small comppany so all I have to deal with is being underpaid for my skills, which is better than all the backstabbing crap of larger companies. If you ever want to catch up for a beer or 12 and chat about this, drop me a line.

JaneNY

mcthud wrote:

If you're lucky enough to own your own painting/plumbing/what have you business, then yeah. The only bullshit you hear is from your own internal monologue. But all the trades you mentioned are union trades. And if you think corporate rhetoric is full of bland people who perk up at the chance to backstab, you don't know anyone that's ever been in a union.

Oh man, have you ever owned a business? It ain't easy. It comes with its own set of chalenges, one of the largest of which is RUNNING a business and GETTING enough business to survive. Plus you get to pay not only your own share of social security plus the part the employer pays, and if you're unlucky enough to not have a spouse with health benefits from their job that can cover you also, you get to pay your own health insurance too. Its no gravy train.

mcthud

JaneNY wrote:

mcthud wrote:

If you're lucky enough to own your own painting/plumbing/what have you business, then yeah. The only bullshit you hear is from your own internal monologue. But all the trades you mentioned are union trades. And if you think corporate rhetoric is full of bland people who perk up at the chance to backstab, you don't know anyone that's ever been in a union.

Oh man, have you ever owned a business? It ain't easy. It comes with its own set of chalenges, one of the largest of which is RUNNING a business and GETTING enough business to survive. Plus you get to pay not only your own share of social security plus the part the employer pays, and if you're unlucky enough to not have a spouse with health benefits from their job that can cover you also, you get to pay your own health insurance too. Its no gravy train.

Oh hell no. I wasn't saying that running a business was a walk in the park. Just that you don't have to worry about coworkers selling you up a river. My old man ran his own business for years and scratched and clawed to put food on the table for the first couple of years. I admire anyone that starts from scratch and makes it.

Jearlpam0925

JaneNY wrote:

mcthud wrote:

If you're lucky enough to own your own painting/plumbing/what have you business, then yeah. The only bullshit you hear is from your own internal monologue. But all the trades you mentioned are union trades. And if you think corporate rhetoric is full of bland people who perk up at the chance to backstab, you don't know anyone that's ever been in a union.

Oh man, have you ever owned a business? It ain't easy. It comes with its own set of chalenges, one of the largest of which is RUNNING a business and GETTING enough business to survive. Plus you get to pay not only your own share of social security plus the part the employer pays, and if you're unlucky enough to not have a spouse with health benefits from their job that can cover you also, you get to pay your own health insurance too. Its no gravy train.

Running your own business is a lot more preferable to me than working for someone else - especially in a corporate style. I ran my grandparents' pub for 4 years and it was incredibly stressful, but it was absolutely worth it because you felt the effects, good or bad, instantaneously.