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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    edited November 2018
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
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  • I like the Butler trade for you guys.  It will take a few games to gel but it should be good.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited November 2018
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    Every draft is different. Nobody is comparing him to Lebron. That’s crazy talk. 

    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. And the problems he is having in the NBA could not have been predicted by anyone. It is the most unusual of circumstances. 

    And Boston didn’t have a need on their roster for a player like Fultz, while the Sixers absolutely did. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    I like the Butler trade for you guys.  It will take a few games to gel but it should be good.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    Every draft is different. Nobody is comparing him to Lebron. That’s crazy talk. 

    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. And the problems he is having in the NBA could not have been predicted by anyone. It is the most unusual of circumstances. 

    And Boston didn’t have a need on their roster for a player like Fultz, while the Sixers absolutely did. 
    Then leave Lebron out of it. Still not the other 3 and I am sure there are plenty of others I can come up with. I’d like to hit up the old google machine because I remember a lot of who the Fuck is fultz outside of mostly hardcore college and Sixers fans
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,889
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    There was also plenty of debate over which was the top PG in that draft, Fultz or Lonzo Ball, not just who was the top player. The opinion of most was Ball was the better player but the baggage of his father made Fultz a safer draft pick. If Lonzo had a normal father, he'd very likely have been drafted before Fultz, quite possibly #1.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,889
    edited November 2018
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...


    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. 
    I remember there was plenty of debate (and since the Celtics had the #1 pick up until the trade there was plenty of local coverage of it) over 4 players as the possible #1 pick in that draft, Fultz, Ball, Tatum and Jackson. I don't recall Fultz ever being a consensus best player in the draft. Like I said above, most thought Ball was a better player but the Lavar factor took him off the radar of a lot of teams not named Lakers.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Poncier said:
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...


    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. 
    I remember there was plenty of debate (and since the Celtics had the #1 pick up until the trade there was plenty of local coverage of it) over 4 players as the possible #1 pick in that draft, Fultz, Ball, Tatum and Jackson. I don't recall Fultz ever being a consensus best player in the draft. Like I said above, most thought Ball was a better player but the Lamar factor took him off the radar of a lot of teams not named Lakers.
    I definitely remember it more along these lines than “fultz is the guy you have to take”
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    What could go wrong with drafting a 53 year old teenager number 1 overall?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited November 2018
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    Every draft is different. Nobody is comparing him to Lebron. That’s crazy talk. 

    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. And the problems he is having in the NBA could not have been predicted by anyone. It is the most unusual of circumstances. 

    And Boston didn’t have a need on their roster for a player like Fultz, while the Sixers absolutely did. 
    Then leave Lebron out of it. Still not the other 3 and I am sure there are plenty of others I can come up with. I’d like to hit up the old google machine because I remember a lot of who the Fuck is fultz outside of mostly hardcore college and Sixers fans
    Sorry, man. I'm not the one utilizing revisionist history. He was the consensus number pick for the 2017 draft and was a perfect fit for this team at the time:
    http://www.nba.com/news/2017-consensus-mock-draft

    • Markelle Fultz seems to be a virtual lock at No. 1 to the Sixers and Lonzo Ball is all but certainly headed to the Lakers at No. 2. Both appear in those positions in all 12 mock drafts we survey. 
       
    • But what will the Celtics do at No. 3? Assuming they keep the pick (some think Boston could deal away the No. 3 pick), seven of the 12 mocks now see the Celtics taking Jayson Tatum, while four think they're eyeing Kansas' Josh Jackson. In our previous breakdown from Monday, those roles were reversed. But it now seems that Tatum is the guy for Boston.  
    https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/22/16047058/2017-nba-draft-grading-the-picks-8302d41fac87

    1. Philadelphia 76ers: Markelle Fultz, PG, Washington

    For the third time in the last four years, the 76ers have walked away from the draft with the consensus top player available. Fultz is a do-everything guard who can run a team, score at all three levels of the floor, and (hopefully) play better defense than he did at Washington. He’s the final piece in what could be a dominant Big Three with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid, although all of them are best with the ball in their hands. A pass-first guard like Lonzo Ball might have been a better fit, but Fultz provides first-option insurance in case either Simmons or Embiid goes down again. The Process faithful can bask in the #RTArmageddon tonight. They have earned it.


    https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/21/nba-draft-prospect-rankings-final-big-board-updated-markelle-fultz-deaaron-fox 


    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2017-big-board-final-rankings-of-the-top-100-best-players-available/


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/06/21/top-50-prospects-in-the-2017-nba-draft-ranked/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.53172466eae4

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    Every draft is different. Nobody is comparing him to Lebron. That’s crazy talk. 

    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. And the problems he is having in the NBA could not have been predicted by anyone. It is the most unusual of circumstances. 

    And Boston didn’t have a need on their roster for a player like Fultz, while the Sixers absolutely did. 
    Then leave Lebron out of it. Still not the other 3 and I am sure there are plenty of others I can come up with. I’d like to hit up the old google machine because I remember a lot of who the Fuck is fultz outside of mostly hardcore college and Sixers fans
    Sorry, man. I'm not the one utilizing revisionist history. He was the consensus number pick for the 2017 draft and was a perfect fit for this team at the time:
    http://www.nba.com/news/2017-consensus-mock-draft

    • Markelle Fultz seems to be a virtual lock at No. 1 to the Sixers and Lonzo Ball is all but certainly headed to the Lakers at No. 2. Both appear in those positions in all 12 mock drafts we survey. 
       
    • But what will the Celtics do at No. 3? Assuming they keep the pick (some think Boston could deal away the No. 3 pick), seven of the 12 mocks now see the Celtics taking Jayson Tatum, while four think they're eyeing Kansas' Josh Jackson. In our previous breakdown from Monday, those roles were reversed. But it now seems that Tatum is the guy for Boston.  
    https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/22/16047058/2017-nba-draft-grading-the-picks-8302d41fac87

    1. Philadelphia 76ers: Markelle Fultz, PG, Washington

    For the third time in the last four years, the 76ers have walked away from the draft with the consensus top player available. Fultz is a do-everything guard who can run a team, score at all three levels of the floor, and (hopefully) play better defense than he did at Washington. He’s the final piece in what could be a dominant Big Three with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid, although all of them are best with the ball in their hands. A pass-first guard like Lonzo Ball might have been a better fit, but Fultz provides first-option insurance in case either Simmons or Embiid goes down again. The Process faithful can bask in the #RTArmageddon tonight. They have earned it.


    https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/21/nba-draft-prospect-rankings-final-big-board-updated-markelle-fultz-deaaron-fox 


    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2017-big-board-final-rankings-of-the-top-100-best-players-available/


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/06/21/top-50-prospects-in-the-2017-nba-draft-ranked/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.53172466eae4

    Looks like you did the Google machine work for me.  Fair enough.  I'm still taking Tatum because I had no clue who the hell Fultz
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Jason P said:
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    What could go wrong with drafting a 53 year old teenager number 1 overall?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    Every draft is different. Nobody is comparing him to Lebron. That’s crazy talk. 

    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. And the problems he is having in the NBA could not have been predicted by anyone. It is the most unusual of circumstances. 

    And Boston didn’t have a need on their roster for a player like Fultz, while the Sixers absolutely did. 
    Then leave Lebron out of it. Still not the other 3 and I am sure there are plenty of others I can come up with. I’d like to hit up the old google machine because I remember a lot of who the Fuck is fultz outside of mostly hardcore college and Sixers fans
    Sorry, man. I'm not the one utilizing revisionist history. He was the consensus number pick for the 2017 draft and was a perfect fit for this team at the time:
    http://www.nba.com/news/2017-consensus-mock-draft

    • Markelle Fultz seems to be a virtual lock at No. 1 to the Sixers and Lonzo Ball is all but certainly headed to the Lakers at No. 2. Both appear in those positions in all 12 mock drafts we survey. 
       
    • But what will the Celtics do at No. 3? Assuming they keep the pick (some think Boston could deal away the No. 3 pick), seven of the 12 mocks now see the Celtics taking Jayson Tatum, while four think they're eyeing Kansas' Josh Jackson. In our previous breakdown from Monday, those roles were reversed. But it now seems that Tatum is the guy for Boston.  
    https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/22/16047058/2017-nba-draft-grading-the-picks-8302d41fac87

    1. Philadelphia 76ers: Markelle Fultz, PG, Washington

    For the third time in the last four years, the 76ers have walked away from the draft with the consensus top player available. Fultz is a do-everything guard who can run a team, score at all three levels of the floor, and (hopefully) play better defense than he did at Washington. He’s the final piece in what could be a dominant Big Three with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid, although all of them are best with the ball in their hands. A pass-first guard like Lonzo Ball might have been a better fit, but Fultz provides first-option insurance in case either Simmons or Embiid goes down again. The Process faithful can bask in the #RTArmageddon tonight. They have earned it.


    https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/21/nba-draft-prospect-rankings-final-big-board-updated-markelle-fultz-deaaron-fox 


    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2017-big-board-final-rankings-of-the-top-100-best-players-available/


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/06/21/top-50-prospects-in-the-2017-nba-draft-ranked/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.53172466eae4

    Looks like you did the Google machine work for me.  Fair enough.  I'm still taking Tatum because I had no clue who the hell Fultz
    Well....yeah, that's the 20/20 hindsight that we did not have a year and a half ago. Nobody had Tatum as the top choice back then (except, perhaps, some local Boston guys because he was a better fit for that team). That's all I'm saying. 
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    Every draft is different. Nobody is comparing him to Lebron. That’s crazy talk. 

    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. And the problems he is having in the NBA could not have been predicted by anyone. It is the most unusual of circumstances. 

    And Boston didn’t have a need on their roster for a player like Fultz, while the Sixers absolutely did. 
    Then leave Lebron out of it. Still not the other 3 and I am sure there are plenty of others I can come up with. I’d like to hit up the old google machine because I remember a lot of who the Fuck is fultz outside of mostly hardcore college and Sixers fans
    Sorry, man. I'm not the one utilizing revisionist history. He was the consensus number pick for the 2017 draft and was a perfect fit for this team at the time:
    http://www.nba.com/news/2017-consensus-mock-draft

    • Markelle Fultz seems to be a virtual lock at No. 1 to the Sixers and Lonzo Ball is all but certainly headed to the Lakers at No. 2. Both appear in those positions in all 12 mock drafts we survey. 
       
    • But what will the Celtics do at No. 3? Assuming they keep the pick (some think Boston could deal away the No. 3 pick), seven of the 12 mocks now see the Celtics taking Jayson Tatum, while four think they're eyeing Kansas' Josh Jackson. In our previous breakdown from Monday, those roles were reversed. But it now seems that Tatum is the guy for Boston.  
    https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/22/16047058/2017-nba-draft-grading-the-picks-8302d41fac87

    1. Philadelphia 76ers: Markelle Fultz, PG, Washington

    For the third time in the last four years, the 76ers have walked away from the draft with the consensus top player available. Fultz is a do-everything guard who can run a team, score at all three levels of the floor, and (hopefully) play better defense than he did at Washington. He’s the final piece in what could be a dominant Big Three with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid, although all of them are best with the ball in their hands. A pass-first guard like Lonzo Ball might have been a better fit, but Fultz provides first-option insurance in case either Simmons or Embiid goes down again. The Process faithful can bask in the #RTArmageddon tonight. They have earned it.


    https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/21/nba-draft-prospect-rankings-final-big-board-updated-markelle-fultz-deaaron-fox 


    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2017-big-board-final-rankings-of-the-top-100-best-players-available/


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/06/21/top-50-prospects-in-the-2017-nba-draft-ranked/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.53172466eae4

    Looks like you did the Google machine work for me.  Fair enough.  I'm still taking Tatum because I had no clue who the hell Fultz
    Well....yeah, that's the 20/20 hindsight that we did not have a year and a half ago. Nobody had Tatum as the top choice back then (except, perhaps, some local Boston guys because he was a better fit for that team). That's all I'm saying. 
    I remember not being thrilled with Fultz, but he was the only one of the top 4 that I knew nothing about.  I get it and you proved it with the articles.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    Every draft is different. Nobody is comparing him to Lebron. That’s crazy talk. 

    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. And the problems he is having in the NBA could not have been predicted by anyone. It is the most unusual of circumstances. 

    And Boston didn’t have a need on their roster for a player like Fultz, while the Sixers absolutely did. 
    Then leave Lebron out of it. Still not the other 3 and I am sure there are plenty of others I can come up with. I’d like to hit up the old google machine because I remember a lot of who the Fuck is fultz outside of mostly hardcore college and Sixers fans
    Sorry, man. I'm not the one utilizing revisionist history. He was the consensus number pick for the 2017 draft and was a perfect fit for this team at the time:
    http://www.nba.com/news/2017-consensus-mock-draft

    • Markelle Fultz seems to be a virtual lock at No. 1 to the Sixers and Lonzo Ball is all but certainly headed to the Lakers at No. 2. Both appear in those positions in all 12 mock drafts we survey. 
       
    • But what will the Celtics do at No. 3? Assuming they keep the pick (some think Boston could deal away the No. 3 pick), seven of the 12 mocks now see the Celtics taking Jayson Tatum, while four think they're eyeing Kansas' Josh Jackson. In our previous breakdown from Monday, those roles were reversed. But it now seems that Tatum is the guy for Boston.  
    https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/22/16047058/2017-nba-draft-grading-the-picks-8302d41fac87

    1. Philadelphia 76ers: Markelle Fultz, PG, Washington

    For the third time in the last four years, the 76ers have walked away from the draft with the consensus top player available. Fultz is a do-everything guard who can run a team, score at all three levels of the floor, and (hopefully) play better defense than he did at Washington. He’s the final piece in what could be a dominant Big Three with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid, although all of them are best with the ball in their hands. A pass-first guard like Lonzo Ball might have been a better fit, but Fultz provides first-option insurance in case either Simmons or Embiid goes down again. The Process faithful can bask in the #RTArmageddon tonight. They have earned it.


    https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/21/nba-draft-prospect-rankings-final-big-board-updated-markelle-fultz-deaaron-fox 


    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2017-big-board-final-rankings-of-the-top-100-best-players-available/


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/06/21/top-50-prospects-in-the-2017-nba-draft-ranked/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.53172466eae4

    Looks like you did the Google machine work for me.  Fair enough.  I'm still taking Tatum because I had no clue who the hell Fultz
    Well....yeah, that's the 20/20 hindsight that we did not have a year and a half ago. Nobody had Tatum as the top choice back then (except, perhaps, some local Boston guys because he was a better fit for that team). That's all I'm saying. 
    I remember not being thrilled with Fultz, but he was the only one of the top 4 that I knew nothing about.  I get it and you proved it with the articles.
    Either way---the whole situation with him sucks. 

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    Every draft is different. Nobody is comparing him to Lebron. That’s crazy talk. 

    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. And the problems he is having in the NBA could not have been predicted by anyone. It is the most unusual of circumstances. 

    And Boston didn’t have a need on their roster for a player like Fultz, while the Sixers absolutely did. 
    Then leave Lebron out of it. Still not the other 3 and I am sure there are plenty of others I can come up with. I’d like to hit up the old google machine because I remember a lot of who the Fuck is fultz outside of mostly hardcore college and Sixers fans
    Sorry, man. I'm not the one utilizing revisionist history. He was the consensus number pick for the 2017 draft and was a perfect fit for this team at the time:
    http://www.nba.com/news/2017-consensus-mock-draft

    • Markelle Fultz seems to be a virtual lock at No. 1 to the Sixers and Lonzo Ball is all but certainly headed to the Lakers at No. 2. Both appear in those positions in all 12 mock drafts we survey. 
       
    • But what will the Celtics do at No. 3? Assuming they keep the pick (some think Boston could deal away the No. 3 pick), seven of the 12 mocks now see the Celtics taking Jayson Tatum, while four think they're eyeing Kansas' Josh Jackson. In our previous breakdown from Monday, those roles were reversed. But it now seems that Tatum is the guy for Boston.  
    https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/22/16047058/2017-nba-draft-grading-the-picks-8302d41fac87

    1. Philadelphia 76ers: Markelle Fultz, PG, Washington

    For the third time in the last four years, the 76ers have walked away from the draft with the consensus top player available. Fultz is a do-everything guard who can run a team, score at all three levels of the floor, and (hopefully) play better defense than he did at Washington. He’s the final piece in what could be a dominant Big Three with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid, although all of them are best with the ball in their hands. A pass-first guard like Lonzo Ball might have been a better fit, but Fultz provides first-option insurance in case either Simmons or Embiid goes down again. The Process faithful can bask in the #RTArmageddon tonight. They have earned it.


    https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/21/nba-draft-prospect-rankings-final-big-board-updated-markelle-fultz-deaaron-fox 


    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2017-big-board-final-rankings-of-the-top-100-best-players-available/


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/06/21/top-50-prospects-in-the-2017-nba-draft-ranked/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.53172466eae4

    Looks like you did the Google machine work for me.  Fair enough.  I'm still taking Tatum because I had no clue who the hell Fultz
    Well....yeah, that's the 20/20 hindsight that we did not have a year and a half ago. Nobody had Tatum as the top choice back then (except, perhaps, some local Boston guys because he was a better fit for that team). That's all I'm saying. 
    I remember not being thrilled with Fultz, but he was the only one of the top 4 that I knew nothing about.  I get it and you proved it with the articles.
    Either way---the whole situation with him sucks. 

    I'm happy with Butler. Give it a little time, get another shooter in here, and let's see what happens this Spring. 
    For sure.  He seems like a decent kid too.  It's bizarre

    Yeah, I like the trade.  Definitely think he is a rung below the kind of player they were hoping for, but it's time and what are they going to wait for? Hoping KD or Kawhi comes.  Slim chances...
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,889
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    Every draft is different. Nobody is comparing him to Lebron. That’s crazy talk. 

    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. And the problems he is having in the NBA could not have been predicted by anyone. It is the most unusual of circumstances. 

    And Boston didn’t have a need on their roster for a player like Fultz, while the Sixers absolutely did. 
    Then leave Lebron out of it. Still not the other 3 and I am sure there are plenty of others I can come up with. I’d like to hit up the old google machine because I remember a lot of who the Fuck is fultz outside of mostly hardcore college and Sixers fans
    Sorry, man. I'm not the one utilizing revisionist history. He was the consensus number pick for the 2017 draft and was a perfect fit for this team at the time:
    http://www.nba.com/news/2017-consensus-mock-draft

    • Markelle Fultz seems to be a virtual lock at No. 1 to the Sixers and Lonzo Ball is all but certainly headed to the Lakers at No. 2. Both appear in those positions in all 12 mock drafts we survey. 
       
    • But what will the Celtics do at No. 3? Assuming they keep the pick (some think Boston could deal away the No. 3 pick), seven of the 12 mocks now see the Celtics taking Jayson Tatum, while four think they're eyeing Kansas' Josh Jackson. In our previous breakdown from Monday, those roles were reversed. But it now seems that Tatum is the guy for Boston.  
    https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/22/16047058/2017-nba-draft-grading-the-picks-8302d41fac87

    1. Philadelphia 76ers: Markelle Fultz, PG, Washington

    For the third time in the last four years, the 76ers have walked away from the draft with the consensus top player available. Fultz is a do-everything guard who can run a team, score at all three levels of the floor, and (hopefully) play better defense than he did at Washington. He’s the final piece in what could be a dominant Big Three with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid, although all of them are best with the ball in their hands. A pass-first guard like Lonzo Ball might have been a better fit, but Fultz provides first-option insurance in case either Simmons or Embiid goes down again. The Process faithful can bask in the #RTArmageddon tonight. They have earned it.


    https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/21/nba-draft-prospect-rankings-final-big-board-updated-markelle-fultz-deaaron-fox 


    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2017-big-board-final-rankings-of-the-top-100-best-players-available/


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/06/21/top-50-prospects-in-the-2017-nba-draft-ranked/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.53172466eae4

    Looks like you did the Google machine work for me.  Fair enough.  I'm still taking Tatum because I had no clue who the hell Fultz
    Well....yeah, that's the 20/20 hindsight that we did not have a year and a half ago. Nobody had Tatum as the top choice back then (except, perhaps, some local Boston guys because he was a better fit for that team). That's all I'm saying. 
    I remember not being thrilled with Fultz, but he was the only one of the top 4 that I knew nothing about.  I get it and you proved it with the articles.
    Either way---the whole situation with him sucks. 

    I'm happy with Butler. Give it a little time, get another shooter in here, and let's see what happens this Spring. 
    Do you want Carmelo on the Sixers?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Poncier said:
    Hindsight may be 20/20 but there is also perhaps a little revisionist history as to how much of a consensus 1 he was. Simmons, Lebron, Kyrie, Oden we’re consensus 1’s. I don’t remember that level for fultz and if there was that much of a consensus, Boston sure as hell wouldn’t have traded out. 

    I dont think this is a Greg oden situation...
    Every draft is different. Nobody is comparing him to Lebron. That’s crazy talk. 

    Compared to the guys guys at the top of the 2017 draft class, he was the consensus top pick. This cannot be disputed. And the problems he is having in the NBA could not have been predicted by anyone. It is the most unusual of circumstances. 

    And Boston didn’t have a need on their roster for a player like Fultz, while the Sixers absolutely did. 
    Then leave Lebron out of it. Still not the other 3 and I am sure there are plenty of others I can come up with. I’d like to hit up the old google machine because I remember a lot of who the Fuck is fultz outside of mostly hardcore college and Sixers fans
    Sorry, man. I'm not the one utilizing revisionist history. He was the consensus number pick for the 2017 draft and was a perfect fit for this team at the time:
    http://www.nba.com/news/2017-consensus-mock-draft

    • Markelle Fultz seems to be a virtual lock at No. 1 to the Sixers and Lonzo Ball is all but certainly headed to the Lakers at No. 2. Both appear in those positions in all 12 mock drafts we survey. 
       
    • But what will the Celtics do at No. 3? Assuming they keep the pick (some think Boston could deal away the No. 3 pick), seven of the 12 mocks now see the Celtics taking Jayson Tatum, while four think they're eyeing Kansas' Josh Jackson. In our previous breakdown from Monday, those roles were reversed. But it now seems that Tatum is the guy for Boston.  
    https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/22/16047058/2017-nba-draft-grading-the-picks-8302d41fac87

    1. Philadelphia 76ers: Markelle Fultz, PG, Washington

    For the third time in the last four years, the 76ers have walked away from the draft with the consensus top player available. Fultz is a do-everything guard who can run a team, score at all three levels of the floor, and (hopefully) play better defense than he did at Washington. He’s the final piece in what could be a dominant Big Three with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid, although all of them are best with the ball in their hands. A pass-first guard like Lonzo Ball might have been a better fit, but Fultz provides first-option insurance in case either Simmons or Embiid goes down again. The Process faithful can bask in the #RTArmageddon tonight. They have earned it.


    https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/21/nba-draft-prospect-rankings-final-big-board-updated-markelle-fultz-deaaron-fox 


    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2017-big-board-final-rankings-of-the-top-100-best-players-available/


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/06/21/top-50-prospects-in-the-2017-nba-draft-ranked/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.53172466eae4

    Looks like you did the Google machine work for me.  Fair enough.  I'm still taking Tatum because I had no clue who the hell Fultz
    Well....yeah, that's the 20/20 hindsight that we did not have a year and a half ago. Nobody had Tatum as the top choice back then (except, perhaps, some local Boston guys because he was a better fit for that team). That's all I'm saying. 
    I remember not being thrilled with Fultz, but he was the only one of the top 4 that I knew nothing about.  I get it and you proved it with the articles.
    Either way---the whole situation with him sucks. 

    I'm happy with Butler. Give it a little time, get another shooter in here, and let's see what happens this Spring. 
    Do you want Carmelo on the Sixers?
    I would want him on the Celtics.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Love Carmelo. Don't want him anywhere near the Sixers. They won't
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Carmelo is a smelly turd sandwich. 
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