8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Sixers kind of luck out with this format as their next 8 are mostly winnable. Get Ben back. Jo's healthy. But if they go with Shake and Bake in the starting lineup, I don't think that 5 would've played a minute together yet...
Sixers kind of luck out with this format as their next 8 are mostly winnable. Get Ben back. Jo's healthy. But if they go with Shake and Bake in the starting lineup, I don't think that 5 would've played a minute together yet...
Well not really. When you have the best home record ya want home games in the playoffs no? Helps getting Ben healthy but most likely Embiid will be fat and out of shape so even that possibility is a 50-50 proposition.
Sixers kind of luck out with this format as their next 8 are mostly winnable.
Their next 8 have yet to be determined. The schedule as it stood would have had 4 of their next 8 against teams (ATL, CHI, CHA and MIN) who are not invited to Orlando. There will be a new schedule of 8 games drawn up for everybody left standing.
Sixers kind of luck out with this format as their next 8 are mostly winnable. Get Ben back. Jo's healthy. But if they go with Shake and Bake in the starting lineup, I don't think that 5 would've played a minute together yet...
Well not really. When you have the best home record ya want home games in the playoffs no? Helps getting Ben healthy but most likely Embiid will be fat and out of shape so even that possibility is a 50-50 proposition.
I was thinking yesterday about how fat he's gonna be. Love him, he's gonna be fat.
Sixers kind of luck out with this format as their next 8 are mostly winnable. Get Ben back. Jo's healthy. But if they go with Shake and Bake in the starting lineup, I don't think that 5 would've played a minute together yet...
Well not really. When you have the best home record ya want home games in the playoffs no? Helps getting Ben healthy but most likely Embiid will be fat and out of shape so even that possibility is a 50-50 proposition.
Well...home and away doesn't mean a whole lot when it's a neutral court, does it? Was talking about match ups...
Sixers kind of luck out with this format as their next 8 are mostly winnable.
Their next 8 have yet to be determined. The schedule as it stood would have had 4 of their next 8 against teams (ATL, CHI, CHA and MIN) who are not invited to Orlando. There will be a new schedule of 8 games drawn up for everybody left standing.
Oh is that right? I thought it was just the next 8 on the schedule and if those teams were not invited, it would just move on to the next game.
This is going to be pretty fucking weird. I doubt they end up finishing. It's inevitable that multiple players will come down with the virus at some point....
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
What about NBA Finals and — especially! — title odds?
But enough about fringe teams that are battling for the right to be overmatched in the first round. Let’s talk about the contenders.
In terms of Finals odds, the biggest beneficiaries of the new format are the aforementioned Sixers, who gained 7 percentage points compared with their standing in March. That is essentially owed to an easy schedule and Simmons’s return to health. The third-year former No. 1 overall pick is one of the league’s most polarizing players, but RAPTOR still considers him extremely valuable (with the 30th-best per-possession rating of anyone logging at least 1,500 minutes). In turn, that change helped drop the Bucks’ chances of winning the East by 8 percentage points — though they remain conference favorites in our revised model, with a 36 percent Finals probability.4 When we re-ran the model, the Celtics‘ probability of making the Finals increased by a percentage point with a healthy Kemba Walker and Jaylen Brown.
Out West, improved Finals odds belong to the Lakers (up 3 percentage points) and Mavericks (+1). L.A. will be without Avery Bradley for the restart — it signed J.R. Smith to pick up the slack, which should be fun — but the model has some Lakers rated higher than either Bradley or Smith actually gaining the missing minutes. Meanwhile, Dallas is a highly interesting team for its own reasons, led by Luka Dončić’s off-the-charts offensive stats. Both of those gains came at the expense of the Rockets (down 2 percentage points), Clippers (-1) and Nuggets (-1), though L.A.’s other top contender remains the second-most likely team to win the West, with a 38 percent chance to make the Finals.
Finally, we get to the championship probabilities. They changed in similar fashion to the Finals odds — the Sixers (up 4 percentage points) and Lakers (+3) gained, while the Bucks (-5) and Clippers (-1) lost ground.
Which NBA teams’ odds changed?
Largest change in championship odds since the league paused play in march, according to the FiveThirtyEight model, for NBA teams that had at least a 1 percent chance to make the Finals (either before or after the pause)
FINALS ODDS
TITLE ODDS
TEAM
CONF.
PRE-PAUSE
CURRENT
CHANGE
PRE-PAUSE
CURRENT
CHANGE
76ers
East
26%
33%
+7
10%
14%
+4
Lakers
West
41
44
+3
27
30
+3
Mavericks
West
<1
1
+1
<1
<1
0
Celtics
East
20
21
+1
6
6
0
Raptors
East
9
9
0
2
2
0
Nuggets
West
4
3
-1
1
1
0
Rockets
West
14
12
-2
7
7
0
Clippers
West
39
38
-1
26
25
-1
Bucks
East
44
36
-8
20
15
-5
But overall, the NBA championship picture looks pretty similar to how it did back in March: The Lakers are still favorites, with the Clippers and Bucks sitting behind them. The Sixers have gained ground; the small-ball Rockets, Celtics, defending-champion Raptors (remember them?) and Nuggets are hanging around the periphery of the title race. We lost a few interesting storylines, though, and there is less certainty that we’ll end up with the true best team as champion.
There’s also no way to predict how the league’s bubble plan will fare when real people get placed into it and are expected to live their lives and play high-level basketball at the same time. But if the logistics work, the finish to this strange NBA campaign should be just as intriguing as promised at the start of the season, long before we knew what 2020 had in store for the world.
What about NBA Finals and — especially! — title odds?
But enough about fringe teams that are battling for the right to be overmatched in the first round. Let’s talk about the contenders.
In terms of Finals odds, the biggest beneficiaries of the new format are the aforementioned Sixers, who gained 7 percentage points compared with their standing in March. That is essentially owed to an easy schedule and Simmons’s return to health. The third-year former No. 1 overall pick is one of the league’s most polarizing players, but RAPTOR still considers him extremely valuable (with the 30th-best per-possession rating of anyone logging at least 1,500 minutes). In turn, that change helped drop the Bucks’ chances of winning the East by 8 percentage points — though they remain conference favorites in our revised model, with a 36 percent Finals probability.4 When we re-ran the model, the Celtics‘ probability of making the Finals increased by a percentage point with a healthy Kemba Walker and Jaylen Brown.
Out West, improved Finals odds belong to the Lakers (up 3 percentage points) and Mavericks (+1). L.A. will be without Avery Bradley for the restart — it signed J.R. Smith to pick up the slack, which should be fun — but the model has some Lakers rated higher than either Bradley or Smith actually gaining the missing minutes. Meanwhile, Dallas is a highly interesting team for its own reasons, led by Luka Dončić’s off-the-charts offensive stats. Both of those gains came at the expense of the Rockets (down 2 percentage points), Clippers (-1) and Nuggets (-1), though L.A.’s other top contender remains the second-most likely team to win the West, with a 38 percent chance to make the Finals.
Finally, we get to the championship probabilities. They changed in similar fashion to the Finals odds — the Sixers (up 4 percentage points) and Lakers (+3) gained, while the Bucks (-5) and Clippers (-1) lost ground.
Which NBA teams’ odds changed?
Largest change in championship odds since the league paused play in march, according to the FiveThirtyEight model, for NBA teams that had at least a 1 percent chance to make the Finals (either before or after the pause)
FINALS ODDS
TITLE ODDS
TEAM
CONF.
PRE-PAUSE
CURRENT
CHANGE
PRE-PAUSE
CURRENT
CHANGE
76ers
East
26%
33%
+7
10%
14%
+4
Lakers
West
41
44
+3
27
30
+3
Mavericks
West
<1
1
+1
<1
<1
0
Celtics
East
20
21
+1
6
6
0
Raptors
East
9
9
0
2
2
0
Nuggets
West
4
3
-1
1
1
0
Rockets
West
14
12
-2
7
7
0
Clippers
West
39
38
-1
26
25
-1
Bucks
East
44
36
-8
20
15
-5
But overall, the NBA championship picture looks pretty similar to how it did back in March: The Lakers are still favorites, with the Clippers and Bucks sitting behind them. The Sixers have gained ground; the small-ball Rockets, Celtics, defending-champion Raptors (remember them?) and Nuggets are hanging around the periphery of the title race. We lost a few interesting storylines, though, and there is less certainty that we’ll end up with the true best team as champion.
There’s also no way to predict how the league’s bubble plan will fare when real people get placed into it and are expected to live their lives and play high-level basketball at the same time. But if the logistics work, the finish to this strange NBA campaign should be just as intriguing as promised at the start of the season, long before we knew what 2020 had in store for the world.
For me it's not even the 2019-2020 Season anymore. 4 1/2 Months off is almost what teams have off during a Normal season. (before the next season starts)
This setup is more like a glorified AAU Tournament except they will play Best of 7.
I agree there's almost no way to predict how this will play out.
What about NBA Finals and — especially! — title odds?
But enough about fringe teams that are battling for the right to be overmatched in the first round. Let’s talk about the contenders.
In terms of Finals odds, the biggest beneficiaries of the new format are the aforementioned Sixers, who gained 7 percentage points compared with their standing in March. That is essentially owed to an easy schedule and Simmons’s return to health. The third-year former No. 1 overall pick is one of the league’s most polarizing players, but RAPTOR still considers him extremely valuable (with the 30th-best per-possession rating of anyone logging at least 1,500 minutes). In turn, that change helped drop the Bucks’ chances of winning the East by 8 percentage points — though they remain conference favorites in our revised model, with a 36 percent Finals probability.4 When we re-ran the model, the Celtics‘ probability of making the Finals increased by a percentage point with a healthy Kemba Walker and Jaylen Brown.
Out West, improved Finals odds belong to the Lakers (up 3 percentage points) and Mavericks (+1). L.A. will be without Avery Bradley for the restart — it signed J.R. Smith to pick up the slack, which should be fun — but the model has some Lakers rated higher than either Bradley or Smith actually gaining the missing minutes. Meanwhile, Dallas is a highly interesting team for its own reasons, led by Luka Dončić’s off-the-charts offensive stats. Both of those gains came at the expense of the Rockets (down 2 percentage points), Clippers (-1) and Nuggets (-1), though L.A.’s other top contender remains the second-most likely team to win the West, with a 38 percent chance to make the Finals.
Finally, we get to the championship probabilities. They changed in similar fashion to the Finals odds — the Sixers (up 4 percentage points) and Lakers (+3) gained, while the Bucks (-5) and Clippers (-1) lost ground.
Which NBA teams’ odds changed?
Largest change in championship odds since the league paused play in march, according to the FiveThirtyEight model, for NBA teams that had at least a 1 percent chance to make the Finals (either before or after the pause)
FINALS ODDS
TITLE ODDS
TEAM
CONF.
PRE-PAUSE
CURRENT
CHANGE
PRE-PAUSE
CURRENT
CHANGE
76ers
East
26%
33%
+7
10%
14%
+4
Lakers
West
41
44
+3
27
30
+3
Mavericks
West
<1
1
+1
<1
<1
0
Celtics
East
20
21
+1
6
6
0
Raptors
East
9
9
0
2
2
0
Nuggets
West
4
3
-1
1
1
0
Rockets
West
14
12
-2
7
7
0
Clippers
West
39
38
-1
26
25
-1
Bucks
East
44
36
-8
20
15
-5
But overall, the NBA championship picture looks pretty similar to how it did back in March: The Lakers are still favorites, with the Clippers and Bucks sitting behind them. The Sixers have gained ground; the small-ball Rockets, Celtics, defending-champion Raptors (remember them?) and Nuggets are hanging around the periphery of the title race. We lost a few interesting storylines, though, and there is less certainty that we’ll end up with the true best team as champion.
There’s also no way to predict how the league’s bubble plan will fare when real people get placed into it and are expected to live their lives and play high-level basketball at the same time. But if the logistics work, the finish to this strange NBA campaign should be just as intriguing as promised at the start of the season, long before we knew what 2020 had in store for the world.
For me it's not even the 2019-2020 Season anymore. 4 1/2 Months off is almost what teams have off during a Normal season. (before the next season starts)
This setup is more like a glorified AAU Tournament except they will play Best of 7.
I agree there's almost no way to predict how this will play out.
Its weird as well but I think the NBA has a better chance of getting this in than baseball and football do though.
What I forgot to mention was that 4 1/2 Months off are for the teams that don't even make the Playoffs. (Maybe 5 Months the most by the time training camp starts).
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10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
https://www.nba.com/sixers/video/teams/sixers/2016/11/19/1479580058244-66-67-championship-video-961638
This is going to be pretty fucking weird. I doubt they end up finishing. It's inevitable that multiple players will come down with the virus at some point....
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-winners-and-losers-in-our-updated-nba-forecast/
What about NBA Finals and — especially! — title odds?
But enough about fringe teams that are battling for the right to be overmatched in the first round. Let’s talk about the contenders.
In terms of Finals odds, the biggest beneficiaries of the new format are the aforementioned Sixers, who gained 7 percentage points compared with their standing in March. That is essentially owed to an easy schedule and Simmons’s return to health. The third-year former No. 1 overall pick is one of the league’s most polarizing players, but RAPTOR still considers him extremely valuable (with the 30th-best per-possession rating of anyone logging at least 1,500 minutes). In turn, that change helped drop the Bucks’ chances of winning the East by 8 percentage points — though they remain conference favorites in our revised model, with a 36 percent Finals probability.4 When we re-ran the model, the Celtics‘ probability of making the Finals increased by a percentage point with a healthy Kemba Walker and Jaylen Brown.
[Related: The Best NBA Players This Season, According To RAPTOR]
Out West, improved Finals odds belong to the Lakers (up 3 percentage points) and Mavericks (+1). L.A. will be without Avery Bradley for the restart — it signed J.R. Smith to pick up the slack, which should be fun — but the model has some Lakers rated higher than either Bradley or Smith actually gaining the missing minutes. Meanwhile, Dallas is a highly interesting team for its own reasons, led by Luka Dončić’s off-the-charts offensive stats. Both of those gains came at the expense of the Rockets (down 2 percentage points), Clippers (-1) and Nuggets (-1), though L.A.’s other top contender remains the second-most likely team to win the West, with a 38 percent chance to make the Finals.
Finally, we get to the championship probabilities. They changed in similar fashion to the Finals odds — the Sixers (up 4 percentage points) and Lakers (+3) gained, while the Bucks (-5) and Clippers (-1) lost ground.
Which NBA teams’ odds changed?
Largest change in championship odds since the league paused play in march, according to the FiveThirtyEight model, for NBA teams that had at least a 1 percent chance to make the Finals (either before or after the pause)
But overall, the NBA championship picture looks pretty similar to how it did back in March: The Lakers are still favorites, with the Clippers and Bucks sitting behind them. The Sixers have gained ground; the small-ball Rockets, Celtics, defending-champion Raptors (remember them?) and Nuggets are hanging around the periphery of the title race. We lost a few interesting storylines, though, and there is less certainty that we’ll end up with the true best team as champion.
There’s also no way to predict how the league’s bubble plan will fare when real people get placed into it and are expected to live their lives and play high-level basketball at the same time. But if the logistics work, the finish to this strange NBA campaign should be just as intriguing as promised at the start of the season, long before we knew what 2020 had in store for the world.
This setup is more like a glorified AAU Tournament except they will play Best of 7.
I agree there's almost no way to predict how this will play out.
What I forgot to mention was that 4 1/2 Months off are for the teams that don't even make the Playoffs. (Maybe 5 Months the most by the time training camp starts).
He’s the best
Ben and Jo pick and rolls in the half court and letting Ben still set the tempo on fast breaks. Makes sense.