How many more picks do they need at this point? Use your assets to get what you need. I don't know dick about fultz, but seems like they'll be pretty good
How many more picks do they need at this point? Use your assets to get what you need. I don't know dick about fultz, but seems like they'll be pretty good
Yeah I agree. This is why Hinkie started to accumulate them. When a situation like this comes along you have to pounce. It looks like a win win for both teams. Kinda think the Bulls get the short end of the stick
Last I heard last night had Sixers giving up 3, the Lakers pick and Okafor.
Thing about Fultz is most people haven't seen a lot of him because he was on a bad team on the west coast who didn't make the tourney....but from what I've read and the highlights I've seen, he's absolutely the best fit for this team. Can score, shoot, distribute, can play off the ball (something like 57% of his 3's were assisted), and has good size for pg. This would be the missing piece of the puzzle. Should be perfect fit with Ben and The Process
Looks like it will come down to whether or not the Lakers take Jackson at 2. Probably will have to wait until Thursday...
Why? Seems like this is happening, no?
Fucking twitter. So much info out there. I saw something that said the Celtics want Jackson at 3 so if the Lakers take him, it could throw this into jeopardy. But then I saw a Woj tweet that said this is a done deal as long as today's workout goes well...
Looks like it will come down to whether or not the Lakers take Jackson at 2. Probably will have to wait until Thursday...
Why? Seems like this is happening, no?
Fucking twitter. So much info out there. I saw something that said the Celtics want Jackson at 3 so if the Lakers take him, it could throw this into jeopardy. But then I saw a Woj tweet that said this is a done deal as long as today's workout goes well...
And, what is considered a good workout? And, if he doesn't have a good workout, the 76ers won't draft him? I wouldn't think the 76ers would base the pick and one workout. I hope not anyway. You'd think the 76ers have done all of their homework on Fultz, and others, already.
The 76ers acquired the Lakers pick in a three-team trade with the Milwaukee Bucks and the Phoenix Suns back in February 2015. The Sixers shipped away reigning Rookie of the Year Michael Carter-Williams, getting the Lakers pick in return. The Lakers pick was then top-5 protected in the 2015 NBA draft, then top-3 protected for both 2016 and 2017. The Lakers were awarded the 2nd overall pick in the lottery for three consecutive years (2015, 2016, 2017), so the pick became fully unprotected for the 2018 draft.
The 76ers acquired a number of assets in a trade with the Sacramento Kings in July 2015 that helped make this trade possible. The 76ers traded Arturas Gudaitis (47th pick in 2015) and Luka Mitrovic (60th pick) for Nik Stauskas, Carl Landry, Jason Thompson, the right to swap first round picks with the Kings in both 2016 and 2017, and what eventually became an unprotected 2019 pick from Sacramento. The Kings primarily made the trade to clear cap space for free agency that summer.
The Sixers finished with a better pick than the Kings in the 2016 draft, but the Kings jumped to 3rd in the lottery this year, giving the Sixers the right to swap their 5th pick for the Kings’ 3rd pick.
These moves made by former general manager Sam Hinkie gave Bryan Colangelo the assets necessary to make a more compelling offer than the Lakers, who were also reportedly looking to move up from #2 to acquire Fultz.
Now just 5 weeks to go over all the scenarios. I like Jackson, Monk and Fox. If we don't love someone at 3 then try to trade down a few spots. Thanks Sam.
What do you make of the 3, Lakers pick and Saric to Celtics for 1 rumor? I wish that would work with Okafor instead, but I doubt it would. Would be a ton to give up....but if you get the guy who fits best with Simmons and Embiid, you gotta at least think about it.
There are quite a few different scenarios I'd be good with right now. Trading down might make the most sense.
Gave up less than what I was talking about a month ago. Props to Colangelo for not letting Ainge fleece him. I wasn't sure he had it in him after the Nerlens trade...
looks like both teams made out well this deal. Go Sixers!
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I love when 'experts' refer to certain college player stats. The sixers pick at 3. Most of the guys they are considering are one and done guys, so they are 19 years old. Referring to their three point percentage after 40 games really means nothing. College basketball statistics are more worthless than Ryan Howard's RBI totals (hahahaha). Trading down from 3 makes zero sense. Sixers already have too many prospects at the NBA level and not enough roster spots. They also have a surplus of future picks (namely the lakers first in 18 and the kings first in 19, both unprotected -- the sixers future is stacked)
Normally I would like to see the trade down, but this year I'd like to see them trade up for Fultz. Being that boston has the 1 pick this year, it's not normal. In my perfect world, the celtics take ball/jackson first, the sixers trade the lakers first back to them (with okafors fat ass), and they get fultz at one. if not just take jackson or dennis smith at 3. I could live with tatum but I think that pick is conservative. You can't teach athleticism, you can teach a guy to shoot. kawaii leonard couldn't shoot out of college. westbrook couldn't shoot out of college.
guards are the easiest position to find. the sixers have tons of assets. draft the guy with the largest upside (jackson, smith). hope they work out. if they bust like okafat, then dump them.
come on colonjello - do the right thing. ugh
any other unrealistic ideas you got? the Celtics aren't taking Ball or Jackson and they aren't trading #1 to the Sixers. just stop.
I love when 'experts' refer to certain college player stats. The sixers pick at 3. Most of the guys they are considering are one and done guys, so they are 19 years old. Referring to their three point percentage after 40 games really means nothing. College basketball statistics are more worthless than Ryan Howard's RBI totals (hahahaha). Trading down from 3 makes zero sense. Sixers already have too many prospects at the NBA level and not enough roster spots. They also have a surplus of future picks (namely the lakers first in 18 and the kings first in 19, both unprotected -- the sixers future is stacked)
Normally I would like to see the trade down, but this year I'd like to see them trade up for Fultz. Being that boston has the 1 pick this year, it's not normal. In my perfect world, the celtics take ball/jackson first, the sixers trade the lakers first back to them (with okafors fat ass), and they get fultz at one. if not just take jackson or dennis smith at 3. I could live with tatum but I think that pick is conservative. You can't teach athleticism, you can teach a guy to shoot. kawaii leonard couldn't shoot out of college. westbrook couldn't shoot out of college.
guards are the easiest position to find. the sixers have tons of assets. draft the guy with the largest upside (jackson, smith). hope they work out. if they bust like okafat, then dump them.
come on colonjello - do the right thing. ugh
any other unrealistic ideas you got? the Celtics aren't taking Ball or Jackson and they aren't trading #1 to the Sixers. just stop.
I might take a shot at signing Redick at this point if they can get him for no more than 3 years. So you'd have a starting 5 of: Fultz Redick Simmons Saric Embiid
Then have Covington, Bayless, Holmes, TLC, and McConnell off the bench (and I guess Okafor).
I might take a shot at signing Redick at this point if they can get him for no more than 3 years. So you'd have a starting 5 of: Fultz Redick Simmons Saric Embiid
Then have Covington, Bayless, Holmes, TLC, and McConnell off the bench (and I guess Okafor).
That's a pretty solid squad right there.
You don't see Saric off the bench?
Alright, alright, alright!
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I might take a shot at signing Redick at this point if they can get him for no more than 3 years. So you'd have a starting 5 of: Fultz Redick Simmons Saric Embiid
Then have Covington, Bayless, Holmes, TLC, and McConnell off the bench (and I guess Okafor).
That's a pretty solid squad right there.
You don't see Saric off the bench?
I mean, yeah you can have him come off the bench... or he could be a stretch 4 and play with Ben. Brown's going to have a bunch of different options to choose from.
How many more picks do they need at this point? Use your assets to get what you need. I don't know dick about fultz, but seems like they'll be pretty good
no.....even with all their "assets" their average record over the last four years is 19-63
they'll be back in the lottery next year. if I'm wroung, the juggler will likely remind me.
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How many more picks do they need at this point? Use your assets to get what you need. I don't know dick about fultz, but seems like they'll be pretty good
no.....even with all their "assets" their average record over the last four years is 19-63
they'll be back in the lottery next year. if I'm wroung, the juggler will likely remind me.
Yeah, they might be, but who knows, they could weasel into the playoffs in a weak East. But, everything would have to go ther way: HEALTH being the first one. And then other teams might be weaker(Bulls & Pacers?)
Love the protections they got in the Fultz trade. Michael Porter in '18 (6' 10" SF who can shoot and has a good handle). Porter will be playing at Missouri next season. Marvin Bagley III 6' 11" C, who runs the court very well , has a good handle, shoots pretty good. He has a chance to be a generational player if he wants its as all of the tools are ther. Many already considered him the BEST player in the Country even though he's only a JR.
How many more picks do they need at this point? Use your assets to get what you need. I don't know dick about fultz, but seems like they'll be pretty good
no.....even with all their "assets" their average record over the last four years is 19-63
they'll be back in the lottery next year. if I'm wroung, the juggler will likely remind me.
Oh Wob...
"Even with all their assets?" What does this even mean? Ben Simmons hasn't played yet. Fultz technically hasn't joined the team and Emiid has played a half a season. The assets haven't played yet, mostly. That starts next year. Odds are they will be in the lottery because it will surely take time for all these new pieces to jell. But I would not be surprised to see them make a playoff push next year in this shitty conference.
Where do you think Hayward will end up? Would suck for the Jazz to lose him.
Love the protections they got in the Fultz trade. Michael Porter in '18 (6' 10" SF who can shoot and has a good handle). Porter will be playing at Missouri next season. Marvin Bagley III 6' 11" C, who runs the court very well , has a good handle, shoots pretty good. He has a chance to be a generational player if he wants its as all of the tools are ther. Many already considered him the BEST player in the Country even though he's only a JR.
This Doncic kid is supposed to be a hell of a prospect next year too.
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Juggler's getting excited....
Zach Lowe saying it's involving several picks and no players?
Please don't hand them the Kings pick. Please. Come on Bryan... Please call Hinkie for advice!
Yeah I agree. This is why Hinkie started to accumulate them. When a situation like this comes along you have to pounce. It looks like a win win for both teams. Kinda think the Bulls get the short end of the stick
Last I heard last night had Sixers giving up 3, the Lakers pick and Okafor.
Thing about Fultz is most people haven't seen a lot of him because he was on a bad team on the west coast who didn't make the tourney....but from what I've read and the highlights I've seen, he's absolutely the best fit for this team. Can score, shoot, distribute, can play off the ball (something like 57% of his 3's were assisted), and has good size for pg. This would be the missing piece of the puzzle. Should be perfect fit with Ben and The Process
Give the man a ring should this core ever win a championship...
http://www.derekbodner.com/2017/06/18/sixers-acquire-1-overall-pick-from-celtics-will-select-markelle-fultz/
The 76ers acquired the Lakers pick in a three-team trade with the Milwaukee Bucks and the Phoenix Suns back in February 2015. The Sixers shipped away reigning Rookie of the Year Michael Carter-Williams, getting the Lakers pick in return. The Lakers pick was then top-5 protected in the 2015 NBA draft, then top-3 protected for both 2016 and 2017. The Lakers were awarded the 2nd overall pick in the lottery for three consecutive years (2015, 2016, 2017), so the pick became fully unprotected for the 2018 draft.
The 76ers acquired a number of assets in a trade with the Sacramento Kings in July 2015 that helped make this trade possible. The 76ers traded Arturas Gudaitis (47th pick in 2015) and Luka Mitrovic (60th pick) for Nik Stauskas, Carl Landry, Jason Thompson, the right to swap first round picks with the Kings in both 2016 and 2017, and what eventually became an unprotected 2019 pick from Sacramento. The Kings primarily made the trade to clear cap space for free agency that summer.
The Sixers finished with a better pick than the Kings in the 2016 draft, but the Kings jumped to 3rd in the lottery this year, giving the Sixers the right to swap their 5th pick for the Kings’ 3rd pick.
These moves made by former general manager Sam Hinkie gave Bryan Colangelo the assets necessary to make a more compelling offer than the Lakers, who were also reportedly looking to move up from #2 to acquire Fultz.
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I might take a shot at signing Redick at this point if they can get him for no more than 3 years. So you'd have a starting 5 of:
Fultz
Redick
Simmons
Saric
Embiid
Then have Covington, Bayless, Holmes, TLC, and McConnell off the bench (and I guess Okafor).
That's a pretty solid squad right there.
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Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
I mean, yeah you can have him come off the bench... or he could be a stretch 4 and play with Ben. Brown's going to have a bunch of different options to choose from.
no.....even with all their "assets" their average record over the last four years is 19-63
they'll be back in the lottery next year. if I'm wroung, the juggler will likely remind me.
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VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
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Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Oh Wob...
"Even with all their assets?" What does this even mean? Ben Simmons hasn't played yet. Fultz technically hasn't joined the team and Emiid has played a half a season. The assets haven't played yet, mostly. That starts next year. Odds are they will be in the lottery because it will surely take time for all these new pieces to jell. But I would not be surprised to see them make a playoff push next year in this shitty conference.
Where do you think Hayward will end up? Would suck for the Jazz to lose him.
This Doncic kid is supposed to be a hell of a prospect next year too.