Job ASKING (edited for the whiners) me to get H1N1 vaccine

KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
edited January 2010 in A Moving Train
I have to get the vaccine, which I have been more or less against since it came out

but if I do not get it I will have to wear a mask to access certain facilities.....

leaves me with a debate, get the shot or wear a mask?

your thoughts
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  • pearljgirl2010pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    I'd wear the mask. You should be forced to have something injected into your body if you don't want it.
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  • JR8805JR8805 Posts: 169
    I wish my job would force me to get the vaccine.
  • Here is a list of side effects reported by fellow fans:

    http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=118716

    Someone posted in AET last week, instead of this page. It's a small sample of people, but one had a seizure!
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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    Here is a list of side effects reported by fellow fans:

    http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=118716

    Someone posted in AET last week, instead of this page. It's a small sample of people, but one had a seizure!


    thanks for the link, it is weird the way different bodies react to the shot

    I would probably be more likely to have adverse side affects since I never get vaccinated, never even had the seasonal flue vaccine and only had the flue server once
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    KDH12 wrote:
    thanks for the link, it is weird the way different bodies react to the shot

    I would probably be more likely to have adverse side affects since I never get vaccinated, never even had the seasonal flue vaccine and only had the flue server once

    Until this year, I had never been vaccinated against anything except for the required shots to get into elementary school. I've only had the flu once that I recall (last year). I got both the seasonal and H1N1 vaccines this year and haven't had any trouble. I've never heard the logic that you're more likely to have adverse side effects if you never get vaccinated.

    What kind of job do you have that would require you to wear a mask anyway? (I wouldn't call that being "forced" to get vaccinated, by the way.)
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    KDH12 wrote:
    Here is a list of side effects reported by fellow fans:

    http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=118716

    Someone posted in AET last week, instead of this page. It's a small sample of people, but one had a seizure!


    thanks for the link, it is weird the way different bodies react to the shot

    I would probably be more likely to have adverse side affects since I never get vaccinated, never even had the seasonal flue vaccine and only had the flue server once

    If you're interested in side effects reported by a larger community than just the people in that thread, here's the latest report of the national Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS):

    http://vaers.hhs.gov/resources/2009H1N1Summary_Nov25.pdf
  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    scb wrote:
    KDH12 wrote:
    thanks for the link, it is weird the way different bodies react to the shot

    I would probably be more likely to have adverse side affects since I never get vaccinated, never even had the seasonal flue vaccine and only had the flue server once

    Until this year, I had never been vaccinated against anything except for the required shots to get into elementary school. I've only had the flu once that I recall (last year). I got both the seasonal and H1N1 vaccines this year and haven't had any trouble. I've never heard the logic that you're more likely to have adverse side effects if you never get vaccinated.

    What kind of job do you have that would require you to wear a mask anyway? (I wouldn't call that being "forced" to get vaccinated, by the way.)


    The likeliness of having worst side affect was just my assumption

    Yes I agree that I am being forced, which is why I hesitate... it is no longer my choice

    I work for an agency that goes into the county jail to work with inmates, the county is starting a new policy,

    no vaccine=mask worn inside the jail
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    KDH12 wrote:
    scb wrote:
    (I wouldn't call that being "forced" to get vaccinated, by the way.)

    The likeliness of having worst side affect was just my assumption

    Yes I agree that I am being forced, which is why I hesitate... it is no longer my choice

    I work for an agency that goes into the county jail to work with inmates, the county is starting a new policy,

    no vaccine=mask worn inside the jail

    No, I meant that I DISagree that you are being forced. You have a choice, and it's not even a choice between getting vaccinated and losing your job.

    Basically they are saying that everyone has to wear a mask when they're in the jail, and you can be exempt if you've been vaccinated. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. If you don't want to be vaccinated, just wear a mask.

    I don't think that's any different than requiring that food handlers wear hair nets, but can be exempt if they have no hair, for instance. You'd never find a school cafeteria lady arguing that she's being FORCED to shave her head.
  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    sorry read your post wrong, my bad

    however it is hard to compare getting your head shaved to getting some unknown substance injected into your body

    not trying to debate, and yes I suppose that I have a choice
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    KDH12 wrote:
    sorry read your post wrong, my bad

    however it is hard to compare getting your head shaved to getting some unknown substance injected into your body

    not trying to debate, and yes I suppose that I have a choice

    Depends on how attached you are to your hair. :)
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I'd go for the mask. No one can force you to get vaccinated if you refuse it.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    KDH12 wrote:
    I have to get the vaccine, which I have been more or less against since it came out

    but if I do not get it I will have to wear a mask to access certain facilities.....

    leaves me with a debate, get the shot or wear a mask?

    your thoughts

    My thoughts? Your job isn't forcing you to get the H1N1 vaccination as your originally claimed.
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    I've never had any type of flu shot, nor do I plan on getting any vaccination of any type ever again.
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    KDH12 wrote:
    I have to get the vaccine, which I have been more or less against since it came out

    but if I do not get it I will have to wear a mask to access certain facilities.....

    leaves me with a debate, get the shot or wear a mask?

    your thoughts



    If you don't want the shot, wear the mask when in certain facilities.

    They have a legitimate concern. You have a legitimate concern. The mask, while mildly inconvenient, is a perfect compromise.
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  • JB811 wrote:
    I've never had any type of flu shot, nor do I plan on getting any vaccination of any type ever again.

    I'll make sure and send a nice arrangement to your funeral. In the meantime, may I kindly suggest that you avoid contact with all people and that you never have children.
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  • Heatherj43Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    No one is FORCING you to get the shot. I find it perfectly reasonable to want you to wear a mask. That is all they are forcing you to do. You work in a place where people are being held and don't have the choice to get to stay away from others, who may have this flu. They have the right to be safe. All you have to do is wear the mask, during work hours, until this blows over.
    In my area, many of the schools are operating at half capacity.
    I don't see why you have issues with this.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i work in health care (orthopedic physician office) and i see and touch sick people every day. many of them cancel their appointments because they have H1N1. thankfully i finally got my H1N1 shot today. no problems to report here. i do not see why everyone is so worked up over the vaccination, especially if you work in an environment where you are in close contact with people. would you not want to protect yourself from getting it? if not, why not protect others from getting it from you before your symptoms onset?
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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    arthurdent wrote:
    JB811 wrote:
    I've never had any type of flu shot, nor do I plan on getting any vaccination of any type ever again.

    I'll make sure and send a nice arrangement to your funeral. In the meantime, may I kindly suggest that you avoid contact with all people and that you never have children.


    That is funny becuase we had a baby a month ago and while in the hospital for 3 days my wife and I both refused the H1N1 vaccine multiple times to several different doctors. It is a tough decision and many people try to make you feel as guilty as possible.

    Our thoughts are that we can change are mind at anytime.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    KDH12 wrote:
    arthurdent wrote:
    JB811 wrote:
    I've never had any type of flu shot, nor do I plan on getting any vaccination of any type ever again.

    I'll make sure and send a nice arrangement to your funeral. In the meantime, may I kindly suggest that you avoid contact with all people and that you never have children.


    That is funny becuase we had a baby a month ago and while in the hospital for 3 days my wife and I both refused the H1N1 vaccine multiple times to several different doctors. It is a tough decision and many people try to make you feel as guilty as possible.

    Our thoughts are that we can change are mind at anytime.

    Changing your minds after the fact won't prevent your baby from getting the flu.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    30 hours status post H1N1 vaccination and no problems to report. i feel completely fine.....

    except my left arm fell off, i pissed my pants, stubbed my big toe, and forgot my username and password so i could not chronicle these complications as they were unfolding..... ;)

    seriously tho, i am completely fine...
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    30 hours status post H1N1 vaccination and no problems to report. i feel completely fine.....

    except my left arm fell off, i pissed my pants, stubbed my big toe, and forgot my username and password so i could not chronicle these complications as they were unfolding..... ;)

    seriously tho, i am completely fine...

    Don't forget to complete the post-vaccine survey I posted in another thread! :)
  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    scb wrote:
    KDH12 wrote:
    arthurdent wrote:

    I'll make sure and send a nice arrangement to your funeral. In the meantime, may I kindly suggest that you avoid contact with all people and that you never have children.


    That is funny becuase we had a baby a month ago and while in the hospital for 3 days my wife and I both refused the H1N1 vaccine multiple times to several different doctors. It is a tough decision and many people try to make you feel as guilty as possible.

    Our thoughts are that we can change are mind at anytime.

    Changing your minds after the fact won't prevent your baby from getting the flu.


    See what I mean, people try to make you feel guilty with stupid comments, thanks for proving my point :roll:

    Obviously I am not going to run out and get the vaccine after the fact, but why is to say that I wake up in the morning and decide to do it

    Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation.....
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    KDH12 wrote:
    scb wrote:
    KDH12 wrote:

    Our thoughts are that we can change are mind at anytime.

    Changing your minds after the fact won't prevent your baby from getting the flu.


    See what I mean, people try to make you feel guilty with stupid comments, thanks for proving my point :roll:

    Obviously I am not going to run out and get the vaccine after the fact, but why is to say that I wake up in the morning and decide to do it

    Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation.....

    Haha... I had a feeling you were going to say something like that.

    My point is, it's completely irrelevant that you can change your mind at any time. Having the ability to change your mind does absolutely nothing to protect your newborn. And having a newborn adds a new dimention to the issue.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Out of curiosity, what factors into the decision-making process when a guy with a newborn who works with prison populations decides not to get vaccinated during a flu pandemic?

    Do you think you are unlikely to get the flu? Or that, even if you or baby got it, it wouldn't be that serious? Or that even if it was serious, it could be easily cured? Or that whatever will be will be? Or that the vaccine doesn't work anyway? Or that the risks of the vaccine outweigh the risks of the flu for you, your child, & the people with whom you come into contact? Or that you don't want to get the shot based on some kind religious principle? Or that you don't want to get it based on principle because you feel pressured to get it? Or what?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    KDH12 wrote:


    See what I mean, people try to make you feel guilty with stupid comments, thanks for proving my point :roll:

    Obviously I am not going to run out and get the vaccine after the fact, but why is to say that I wake up in the morning and decide to do it

    Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation.....

    was this directed at me??
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    KDH12 wrote:


    See what I mean, people try to make you feel guilty with stupid comments, thanks for proving my point :roll:

    Obviously I am not going to run out and get the vaccine after the fact, but why is to say that I wake up in the morning and decide to do it

    Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation.....

    was this directed at me??

    I'm pretty sure it was directed at me.
  • I work in a research lab and what I dont get is it takes up to 30 years sometimes to get drugs out on the market due to regulation and testing. H1N1 pops up and within a matter of months they have an instant cure all vaccine. Just seems a little fishy to me.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    I work in a research lab and what I dont get is it takes up to 30 years sometimes to get drugs out on the market due to regulation and testing. H1N1 pops up and within a matter of months they have an instant cure all vaccine. Just seems a little fishy to me.

    They were able to approve it so quickly because it's not a new drug. It's just another strain change to the same old flu shot, just like is done every year when they see what strains are circulating. The only reason this is given separately is because they didn't know about it in time to adjust the seasonal flu shot for it.

    Also, no one is claiming it's an instant cure-all vaccine.
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  • I work in a research lab and what I dont get is it takes up to 30 years sometimes to get drugs out on the market due to regulation and testing. H1N1 pops up and within a matter of months they have an instant cure all vaccine. Just seems a little fishy to me.

    You do realize that vaccines don't work that way, don't you? I mean, since you work in a research lab and all. The method of action for vaccines is scientifically well understood and has been for many, many years. So there's a bit of a difference between approval of a vaccine for a new flu strain and the years of testing that needs to happen before the FDA can approve a new drug.
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