George W. Out Of Office, But Not Forgotten...

LiteTheMatch

Oh he's forgotten alright... Now we are one big happy nation where change has come and everything is fixed!

KigityK

Why do people say that W started a war? Dont people remember 9/11? The guy HAD to do something, would it have been alright for him to sit on his hands and not try to go after whomever was the cause of 9/11? YES... he made mistakes... but Clinton had chances to do the same thing after the USS Cole terror attack and he did nothing (sorry, fired 2 missiles into a tent). Clinton could have prevented 9/11, or atleast distrupted Al Queda a bit. The writing was on the walls and he did nothing. W tried, and we are still trying....

supersonicyears

KigityK wrote:

Why do people say that W started a war? Dont people remember 9/11? The guy HAD to do something, would it have been alright for him to sit on his hands and not try to go after whomever was the cause of 9/11? YES... he made mistakes... but Clinton had chances to do the same thing after the USS Cole terror attack and he did nothing (sorry, fired 2 missiles into a tent). Clinton could have prevented 9/11, or atleast distrupted Al Queda a bit. The writing was on the walls and he did nothing. W tried, and we are still trying....

The guy had to find Bin Ladin in Afghanistan not start a war in another country.

usamamasan1

the guy

:crazy:

EvilRabbit

Wow. The ignorance of you Bush-lovers and Obama-haters is staggering.

As for the comment by the guy not getting the "return of science" line... words escape me. Many Republicans don't even believe in evolution. If you're one of them, please don't perform a job where you have to make decisions that will affect other people. You simply aren't intelligent enough.

EvilRabbit

KigityK wrote:

Why do people say that W started a war? Dont people remember 9/11? The guy HAD to do something, would it have been alright for him to sit on his hands and not try to go after whomever was the cause of 9/11? YES... he made mistakes... but Clinton had chances to do the same thing after the USS Cole terror attack and he did nothing (sorry, fired 2 missiles into a tent). Clinton could have prevented 9/11, or atleast distrupted Al Queda a bit. The writing was on the walls and he did nothing. W tried, and we are still trying....

Uh, Bush did sit on his hands for the first 15 minutes or so. Then he did the right thing and went into Afghanistan, then he pissed all that hard work away by shifting everything to another country which had ZERO to do with the 9/11 attacks. Oh yeah, and he was even briefed on the likelihood of Al Qaeda hijacking planes in August of 2001 and dismissed the report. Way to keep us safe, W, heck of a job.

Speaking of doing a heck of a job, the guy couldn't even get bottled water to a major U.S. city for 5 days after a hurricane. I could have walked to New Orleans in 5 days from California.

If you still think W was good for this country, despite the empirical evidence to the contrary, you are just plain wrong, ill-informed, and possibly dumb as a rock.

youngster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shgjN_46 ... re=related

Enough said!

LiteTheMatch

Same shit, different face.

KigityK

Hurricane Katrina aftermath was W's fault?... Im not sure I'm as "Dumb as a rock" but if I knew there was a Catagory 5 hurricane coming towards my home and there was ample time to evacuate, I would have. Please dont tell me you would have stayed.
Fact is, no President is perfect and no political party is either. W has made mistakes and Barak will too, and has. I guess we'll all just have to see what happens in the next few years... but it doesnt look that promising...

merkinball

Not to derail the thread. But I agree with the original poster 100%. Kathleen Edwards is really, really great.

AtlantaJammer

Great time to be on Welfare! Shitty time if you make decent money and pay taxes....

hollyster70

usamamasan1 wrote:

A man falls off a boat and ends up on an island. After a lot of walking he comes across a shop that specializes in brains.
Artists' brains $9.00 per ounce
Philosophers' brains $12.00 per ounce
Scientists' brains $15.00 per ounce
Republicans' $19.00 per ounce
Democrats' brains $2,000 per ounce

After the man reads the prices he says "wow, those democrat brains must be popular."

The shop owner says:

"Are you kidding? Do you know how many democrats you have to kill to get one ounce of brains?"






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMo0WlSvrIY&NR=1

connect the dots

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... :b28759115

GANGSTER GOVT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-lVuz ... re=related

Why is that you feel the need to insult others in a failed attempt to get your point across? It would be more useful to make your argument using intelligent words to sway those you are trying to convince. This kind of behavior is reminiscent of a grade school playground. Obviously you're old enough to figure out how to use the internet to find conspiracy theroies so how about trying to act like an adult.

If you have children, have you ever had a situation where two of them are fighting. Both children can only see their side and it escalates. Your role as a parent is to mediate. If not, it never ends and focus is lost. Do you follow me?

Have you ever thought that this polarization bullshit is a diversion tactic? When you have the American people at each others throats by using fear tactics, the Government can do whatever they want because who's watching. Dems vs Repubs, Christians vs Muslims, Black vs White, Man vs Woman. Take your pick.

Maybe we should care less about these labels and work on fixing things...just a thought.

Washed

awww...I applaud those of you who still feel the need to defend this nation's first mentally challenged president, little bush. He may have flown in a special short Air Force One, but he did the best he could.

What we should remember, though, is that nobody can clean off all the crayon drawings he left on the country's walls overnight. Hang in there, though. The place will look much nicer 8 years after his departure.

Until then, lets just sit back and enjoy some Pearl Jam.

dawitchdoc

neither one is an Abraham Lincoln, however at least Bush is a bonafied American. Is Obama, until he offers some simple proof and starts to act like one, I'd say no.

Gems and Rhinestones

this thread makes me want to sing :

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

PJ Fan est. 1990

dawitchdoc wrote:

neither one is an Abraham Lincoln, however at least Bush is a bonafied American. Is Obama, until he offers some simple proof and starts to act like one, I'd say no.

we have proof there is a record of it in Hawaii...don't tell me you believe that "Obama wasn't born in America" crap...people could say the SAME exact thing about McCain...he was born in Panama, sure it was a military base, but if someone is ridiculed for being born in Hawaii which IS a US state, then being born on a military base in Panama should be even more of a reason to be ridiculed.

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

merkinball wrote:

Not to derail the thread. But I agree with the original poster 100%. Kathleen Edwards is really, really great.

Fuck yeah she is...PJ should let her open for them for a leg...imagine her dueting on Long Road or The End...if you all think Ed sounds tortured, you have not heard "Little Duck" or "Injustica"

DH62179

EvilRabbit wrote:

Wow. The ignorance of you Bush-lovers and Obama-haters is staggering.

As for the comment by the guy not getting the "return of science" line... words escape me. Many Republicans don't even believe in evolution. If you're one of them, please don't perform a job where you have to make decisions that will affect other people. You simply aren't intelligent enough.

Words escape you? So, believing that humans didn't evlove from apes or whatever the hell you think means they're not intelligent? Seeing as you are obviously so intelligent can you explain how you know my feelings on issues from one comment? That escapes me...I say I don't understand Obama's comment and you label me as an unintelligent republican? How is it you know so much about me....amazing, really amazing. I'm assuming you're a liberal, you obviously are since you think no one else can have an opinion other than yours, hence, the 'evolution' comment. I'm surprised at your close-mindedness considering you're the kind of people who are supposed to be fair, helpful and unassuming unlike those nasty republicans you group me with...wait, I'm starting to sound like a douchbag who thinks he knows people from one comment, sorry.

Check out these quotes from the president regarding a commitment to renewable energy for climate change:

"America has to change its habits. It has to get off oil. Until we change our habits, we are going to be dependent on oil,"

"Look, I understand that stereotypes are hard to defeat. People get an image planted in their head and sometimes it causes them not to listen to the facts. But America is in the lead when it comes to energy independence, we're in the lead when it comes to new technologies, we're in the lead when it comes to global climate change and it will stay that way."

"I'd rather have corn farmers growing energy rather than import oil from countries that may not like us--that's how I view it,"

"I'm confident that when we look back at this period of time, we'll say how could we have doubted the capacity of mankind to develop the technologies necessary to deal with the real problems of the 21st century,"

Are you surprised to learn they more made by our previous president? If not, please enlighten me since you know sooooooooo much about everything, like the proof you obviously have of evolution, I mean, you have proof right, you must since you've closed the book on the subject.

DH62179

theboxerorthebag wrote:

what doesn't make sense?

The stem cell reseach ban has been lifted. The administration believes the science behind climate change (unlike the previous one).

DH62179 wrote:

aNiMaL wrote:

You know another thing I am really liking about the Obama administration, the return of SCIENCE!! It's a good thing.

I still don't know what the hell that means, it didn't make sense when Obama said it and it doesn't make sense now. :roll:

Ban? You make it sound like Bush didn't allow stem cell research which is flat out wrong. He limited the research to only adult stem cells, excluding embryonic stem cells since that has the potential to destroy human life. How can you fault someone for trying to give everyone a chance to live? That being said, I don't mind that Obama lifted the RESTRICTIONS because I'm sure it will be of help in the long run.