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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    I'm not a fan of this deal , $153 million

    Dudes hurt a bunch and I see that continuing

    My thoughts exactly
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    I'm not a fan of this deal , $153 million

    Dudes hurt a bunch and I see that continuing

    The dollars on the surface are terrible but it looks like the Yankees don't give a fuck about money. Already reports that this isn't going to stop them from potentially signing cano, although not at $200 mil, and they haven't even started with pitching yet

    Dude does get hurt and his power has been down but he is a legit center fielder.

    I always fucking hated him. Damon part 2
    Hopefully not as clumsy as Damon.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Newch91 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    I'm not a fan of this deal , $153 million

    Dudes hurt a bunch and I see that continuing

    The dollars on the surface are terrible but it looks like the Yankees don't give a fuck about money. Already reports that this isn't going to stop them from potentially signing cano, although not at $200 mil, and they haven't even started with pitching yet

    Dude does get hurt and his power has been down but he is a legit center fielder.

    I always fucking hated him. Damon part 2
    Hopefully not as clumsy as Damon.

    Ha he may be at the end of it
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    $153 million :lol: :fp: :lol: :fp:

    good grief. thats just ridiculous. At least he isnt singed until hes' 43 year old I guess. :fp:
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,635
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    igotid88 wrote:
    I don't think he sucked. He had a bad year. But there were a lot of big contracts this offseason. NYS killed him.

    I like Hughes as much as anyone, really wanted him to do well and hope he does well with the Twins, but he sucked. All pitchers have to deal with YS and yeah it hurt him, but everyone is playing on the same field in that stadium.

    This from RAB over the weekend

    In his four years as a starter (since 2010) Hughes has averaged under 150 innings per year, and he failed to eclipse that mark in his walk year. Of the 96 pitchers who have recorded at least 500 innings since 2010, Hughes’s 4.65 ERA ranks 89th. In that time he has produced 3.1 bWAR*, which ranks 80th.

    Still 8 million a year is a good deal for the Twins. Especially when other pitchers with similar stats and older got more money.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,635
    I don't get the Elsbury signing. $21 million?
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,635
    And they're sticking with 160 million for Cano.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Like I said, I think it just indicates they are back to not giving a shit about money. It is clearly an overpay and would be a bad deal for 28 other teams. If arod and the rest of his contract isn't holding the Yankees back from making moves like this and overpaying players they want, then ellsbury in 5 or 6 years sure as hell won't be either

    As long as it doesn't stop them from making other moves, which it doesn't seem like it will, then I'm down.

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    igotid88 wrote:
    And they're sticking with 160 million for Cano.

    Cano will be back, unless he signs for over $200 mil
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    so who are the yankees going to sign to play center for the other half of the season?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Dave cameron as always is great

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/yankees- ... ging-well/
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,274
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    I'm not a fan of this deal , $153 million

    Dudes hurt a bunch and I see that continuing

    The dollars on the surface are terrible but it looks like the Yankees don't give a fuck about money.

    obviously :fp:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Cliffy6745
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    imalive wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    I'm not a fan of this deal , $153 million

    Dudes hurt a bunch and I see that continuing

    The dollars on the surface are terrible but it looks like the Yankees don't give a fuck about money.

    obviously :fp:

    Well, after Hal and co shoving plan $189 million down our throats for the last 2 years, seeing them go all out already is a little surprising
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,635
    Close to a 1 year deal for Kelly Johnson
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    The Juggler wrote:
    so who are the yankees going to sign to play center for the other half of the season?
    Good point.

    The better question is who's going to pitch?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Read a good point, can't remember which article it was. The Yankees just don't get hampered by bad contracts. Arod (obviously),CC, Tex, and Burnett were all bad contracts, and now they are making big splashes to make up for the decline in production in some of those bad contracts, in 4 years from now they will make more big splashes to make up for the decline in Ellsbury, McCann, etc.

    The Yankees are the Yankees and they know Ellsbury isn't going to be worth what he is getting paid over the course of the contract, but they just don't give a shit.

    They have to sign Cano though, and they will. Loved the Sherman article from today.

    http://nypost.com/2013/12/03/taking-mar ... cost-cano/
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Hey guys, has there been any word on Tex, Granderson, and Jeter as far as their condition to play in 2014?

    Granderson might leave?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Hey guys, has there been any word on Tex, Granderson, and Jeter as far as their condition to play in 2014?

    Granderson might leave?

    Tex will be cleared for full games in early March, so he'll get a little late start on Spring Training but should be good for the regular season. They need some insurance on him though, same injury that almost made Ortiz retire.

    Jeter they say is healthy and has been lifting weights. He'll be good to go from day 1.

    Granderson is good as gone. Mets may give him 4 years. Keep in mind he is 33, so it is basically the back half of the Ellsbury contract.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Hey guys, has there been any word on Tex, Granderson, and Jeter as far as their condition to play in 2014?

    Granderson might leave?

    Tex will be cleared for full games in early March, so he'll get a little late start on Spring Training but should be good for the regular season. They need some insurance on him though, same injury that almost made Ortiz retire.

    Jeter they say is healthy and has been lifting weights. He'll be good to go from day 1.

    Granderson is good as gone. Mets may give him 4 years. Keep in mind he is 33, so it is basically the back half of the Ellsbury contract.

    Cool, thanks Cliffy.
    Things might be OK...if some pitching comes through. I said "might." :mrgreen:
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Hey guys, has there been any word on Tex, Granderson, and Jeter as far as their condition to play in 2014?

    Granderson might leave?

    Tex will be cleared for full games in early March, so he'll get a little late start on Spring Training but should be good for the regular season. They need some insurance on him though, same injury that almost made Ortiz retire.

    Jeter they say is healthy and has been lifting weights. He'll be good to go from day 1.

    Granderson is good as gone. Mets may give him 4 years. Keep in mind he is 33, so it is basically the back half of the Ellsbury contract.

    Cool, thanks Cliffy.
    Things might be OK...if some pitching comes through. I said "might." :mrgreen:

    Yeah, man. I just feel good that for the first time in a couple years, they aren't pinching pennies.

    The pitching situation is scary right now. It would be huge if they could get both Kuroda and Tanaka. That would be a top 4 of CC, Kuroda, Nova, Tanaka, Pineda/Nuno/Warren. Not great, and certainly some huge question marks, but I think that's the best case scenario. They also seem to have some trade chips, so who knows who is on the block. This offseason has been pretty insane so far.

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