Looks like the 5th starter job is Hughes' to lose.
I would love that. I think Hughes has the better long term make up. I would honestly like to eventually see them both in the rotation.
Only thing about hughes winning the job is his innings limit... I assume it will be the hughes rules.
i don't believe his will be the same as Joba's. Hughes has pitched over 140 innings in the past. Last year he pitched in about just over 100. So maybe they'll give him 60-70 more innings this year. So even though Mitre, Aceves and Gaudin are competing for the 5th spot. We all know it's between Hughes and Joba. You can't invest all this time in these guys. Just to have them both in the bullpen.
speaking of which if I see the following headline "Good Joba" tomorrow, I'm going to vomit...
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speaking of which if I see the following headline "Good Joba" tomorrow, I'm going to vomit...
I hear you. Overall, this 5th starter talk is getting pretty annoying. I guess that is what we get with a quiet spring training in Tampa. Better than Arod PED talk I guess.
In my opinion Robertson's best pitch is his curve. According to fangraphs, it accounted for 20 percent of his pitches during the 2009 season. If you recall in Game 2 against the Twins, he escaped a bases-loaded jam and his teammates referred to him as "Dave Houdini".
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Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
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"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
In my opinion Robertson's best pitch is his curve. According to fangraphs, it accounted for 20 percent of his pitches during the 2009 season. If you recall in Game 2 against the Twins, he escaped a bases-loaded jam and his teammates referred to him as "Dave Houdini".
there you have it. I agree about the curve. Without the curve, his fastball would probably be very hittable. but he keeps hitters off balance. I doubt he'll be the next Yankee closer. My guess is that it's Joba, though the team is also very high on Mark Melancon. My hope is that Mariano stays another 5 years until Mariano Rivera Junior is ready to take over for Pop
In my opinion Robertson's best pitch is his curve. According to fangraphs, it accounted for 20 percent of his pitches during the 2009 season. If you recall in Game 2 against the Twins, he escaped a bases-loaded jam and his teammates referred to him as "Dave Houdini".
there you have it. I agree about the curve. Without the curve, his fastball would probably be very hittable. but he keeps hitters off balance. I doubt he'll be the next Yankee closer. My guess is that it's Joba, though the team is also very high on Mark Melancon. My hope is that Mariano stays another 5 years until Mariano Rivera Junior is ready to take over for Pop
Melancon is someone I'd like to see more of. He's a very intriguing prospect.
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Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
In my opinion Robertson's best pitch is his curve. According to fangraphs, it accounted for 20 percent of his pitches during the 2009 season. If you recall in Game 2 against the Twins, he escaped a bases-loaded jam and his teammates referred to him as "Dave Houdini".
there you have it. I agree about the curve. Without the curve, his fastball would probably be very hittable. but he keeps hitters off balance. I doubt he'll be the next Yankee closer. My guess is that it's Joba, though the team is also very high on Mark Melancon. My hope is that Mariano stays another 5 years until Mariano Rivera Junior is ready to take over for Pop
Melancon is someone I'd like to see more of. He's a very intriguing prospect.
I saw he got sent to the Minors camp, which will be good for him to get some more experience and innings. I like Hughes in the 5th spot, he's got a good arsenal of pitches.
I can't wait until the Tourney is over so I can concentrate on baseball!!
As with everyone else, I am happy Hughes has won the starting job but I just don't get what the Yankees are doing with Joba and I almost think they dont know either. They have spent the last 3 years grooming him to be a starter and now that he is fully ready to pitch with no limitations, he goes to the bullpen. Does not make sense to me.
As with everyone else, I am happy Hughes has won the starting job but I just don't get what the Yankees are doing with Joba and I almost think they dont know either. They have spent the last 3 years grooming him to be a starter and now that he is fully ready to pitch with no limitations, he goes to the bullpen. Does not make sense to me.
They have too many options this year! Next year Pettite will more then likely retire opening a slot for Joba. Plus it will be interesting to see what the Yanks do if Vazquez has a year as good as last. To sum it up, this year I blame it on the incredible deal they got for Vazquez.
As with everyone else, I am happy Hughes has won the starting job but I just don't get what the Yankees are doing with Joba and I almost think they dont know either. They have spent the last 3 years grooming him to be a starter and now that he is fully ready to pitch with no limitations, he goes to the bullpen. Does not make sense to me.
They have too many options this year! Next year Pettite will more then likely retire opening a slot for Joba. Plus it will be interesting to see what the Yanks do if Vazquez has a year as good as last. To sum it up, this year I blame it on the incredible deal they got for Vazquez.
I hear you but what if Javy and Pettitte are gone next year, then the Yankees are in a much worse situation than they were this year to have him start in 2011 than tney were this year. I guess this means Joba is a reliever long term and I hate that. I would rather have him in Scranton starting this year than in the Yankees bullpen.
Got my tickets to the Yankees vs. Rangers on 4/16 today!
Nice, I will be there on the 17th, taking my old mad to the stadium for his 60th.
My first trip out to NYC. I gotta see my Yanks! Hopefully the weather cooperates.
Good shit. You will enjoy it and have a blast. Definitely get there early to walk around the stadium and/or hit up Stans or the Bowling Alley. Games in April are always iffy but nothing you can do, you will have a good time either way.
I'm okay with Hughes starting, I just hope he doesn't end up on The Verducci List next year. This has to be it for Joba. 8th inning set up guy until Mariano retires, then he gets 1st shot at closing. No more jerking him around. Let him go dominate in a 1 inning role
glad to see hughes gets the spot. joba...as much as i love the kid and would love to see him as a starter, he's just not fitting as one now. i think he's where he belongs.
I'm okay with Hughes starting, I just hope he doesn't end up on The Verducci List next year. This has to be it for Joba. 8th inning set up guy until Mariano retires, then he gets 1st shot at closing. No more jerking him around. Let him go dominate in a 1 inning role
Mariano might not retire for another 5 years. My thinking is they'll use Joba for 2 innings most of the time he pitches. And try him out again next year. If Pettitte and/or Vasquez aren't back.
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Only thing about hughes winning the job is his innings limit... I assume it will be the hughes rules.
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i don't believe his will be the same as Joba's. Hughes has pitched over 140 innings in the past. Last year he pitched in about just over 100. So maybe they'll give him 60-70 more innings this year. So even though Mitre, Aceves and Gaudin are competing for the 5th spot. We all know it's between Hughes and Joba. You can't invest all this time in these guys. Just to have them both in the bullpen.
speaking of which if I see the following headline "Good Joba" tomorrow, I'm going to vomit...
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
I hear you. Overall, this 5th starter talk is getting pretty annoying. I guess that is what we get with a quiet spring training in Tampa. Better than Arod PED talk I guess.
Some eye popping strike out numbers. Yet, looks like his stuff might be fast and straight as, he gets hit a little too. Doesn't walk anyone.
We looking at a potential Rivera successor? Not that Mo is going anywhere anytime soon, but ... thoughts on Robertson? Have you seen him pitch?
(indeed, this is scouting for a deep fantasy baseball leauge I'm in.)
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Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
there you have it. I agree about the curve. Without the curve, his fastball would probably be very hittable. but he keeps hitters off balance. I doubt he'll be the next Yankee closer. My guess is that it's Joba, though the team is also very high on Mark Melancon. My hope is that Mariano stays another 5 years until Mariano Rivera Junior is ready to take over for Pop
Melancon is someone I'd like to see more of. He's a very intriguing prospect.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
edit..sorry cliffy didn't see the post
I saw he got sent to the Minors camp, which will be good for him to get some more experience and innings. I like Hughes in the 5th spot, he's got a good arsenal of pitches.
I can't wait until the Tourney is over so I can concentrate on baseball!!
They have too many options this year! Next year Pettite will more then likely retire opening a slot for Joba. Plus it will be interesting to see what the Yanks do if Vazquez has a year as good as last. To sum it up, this year I blame it on the incredible deal they got for Vazquez.
I hear you but what if Javy and Pettitte are gone next year, then the Yankees are in a much worse situation than they were this year to have him start in 2011 than tney were this year. I guess this means Joba is a reliever long term and I hate that. I would rather have him in Scranton starting this year than in the Yankees bullpen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk-5aYRNLUo
Nice, I will be there on the 17th, taking my old mad to the stadium for his 60th.
Good shit. You will enjoy it and have a blast. Definitely get there early to walk around the stadium and/or hit up Stans or the Bowling Alley. Games in April are always iffy but nothing you can do, you will have a good time either way.
Dear Mr. Hughes
Please don't make me come back and quote myself in two months to show how little i know
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glad to see hughes gets the spot. joba...as much as i love the kid and would love to see him as a starter, he's just not fitting as one now. i think he's where he belongs.
jeez 2 months? he'll probably be in his 5th start by then. he's going to have his ups and downs. but i'm pretty sure there will be more ups.
Mariano might not retire for another 5 years. My thinking is they'll use Joba for 2 innings most of the time he pitches. And try him out again next year. If Pettitte and/or Vasquez aren't back.