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Speed of Sound: Solo vs. Full Band

TheGossmanTheGossman Posts: 1,120
edited November 2009 in The Porch
Solo version is 10x better than the full band version hands down
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    it's really just a matter of opinion, i liked the demo they released to fan club members after that online game. not the full band.
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    TheGossman wrote:
    Solo version is 10x better than the full band version hands down

    i second that.
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    With the beuatiful lyrics...they could play that song with a Jug band in teh background and it was still be amazing.
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    it's really just a matter of opinion, i liked the demo they released to fan club members after that online game. not the full band

    i must be out of the loop when did this happen?
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    halszka123halszka123 Posts: 1,109
    I can speak about solo version. Full band version doesn't exist to me - it's not a song at all.
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    it's really just a matter of opinion, i liked the demo they released to fan club members after that online game. not the full band

    i must be out of the loop when did this happen?
    Sometime just after the Fixer was released. There was an online scavenger hunt and at the end you could sound load an accoustic version. If you want to hear it - go to youtube
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    pretextpretext Posts: 1,294
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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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    SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,347
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    I like full band more....but I have to agree with this photo. :ugeek:
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    you can find the solo version here:

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    enjoy :)
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,921
    I love the solo version. The album version is OK, not great. I do wonder if I would have liked the album version more if the solo demo had never been released. As it is the album version just doesn't sound right. Without the the solo I probably wouldn't have felt that way.
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    Speed of Sound was the biggest disappointment about Backspacer for me - even more so than Force of Nature, which is a much, much, much worse song.

    What's fundamentally so disappointing about Speed of Sound is that we've all heard what an amazingly beautiful, haunting, moving, affecting song it was from Eddie's demo, but the band seems to have drained all the soul from it by trying to do far too much with it. It's a beautifully simple song. They made it far too complicated, so that now it's painfully overwrought.

    But to give the rest of the band the credit they deserve, they transformed Unthought Known from a frankly boring song (lyrics notwithstanding) into something utterly transcendent...
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    davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
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    Love BOTH versions. I must be the only fan that really likes the studio version...
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    pjampjam Posts: 101
    I love both versions. Its not my favorite song on the album but its not the worst. And to the guy that had no love for force of nature your crazy. Thats another great song. My least favorite on the album is Johnny Guitar but its still a good song. As a friend of mine says " Eddie could sing me the phone book and I'd love it"!!!
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    PJSEMPREPJSEMPRE Posts: 687
    Speed of Sound was the biggest disappointment about Backspacer for me - even more so than Force of Nature, which is a much, much, much worse song.

    What's fundamentally so disappointing about Speed of Sound is that we've all heard what an amazingly beautiful, haunting, moving, affecting song it was from Eddie's demo, but the band seems to have drained all the soul from it by trying to do far too much with it. It's a beautifully simple song. They made it far too complicated, so that now it's painfully overwrought.

    But to give the rest of the band the credit they deserve, they transformed Unthought Known from a frankly boring song (lyrics notwithstanding) into something utterly transcendent...

    Agree 100% with you.
    The solo version (demo) was beautiful and moving, but the final version is a disappointment.
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    does anyone know how to obtain this track ? pm me
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    The RockThe Rock Posts: 1,390
    The solo version is very moving, I love the subtle guitar notes after each chorus.

    The full band version is moving but in different ways. I love singing along when the whole band is playing. Also, I get this really weird feeling whenever I hear it - like I'm on a little wooden rowing boat out in space heading towards the moon and it's rocking vey gently from side to side along with the beat of the song. Odd, I know.

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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,883
    I thought it sounded pretty good live in Philly
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    Speed of Sound was the biggest disappointment about Backspacer for me - even more so than Force of Nature, which is a much, much, much worse song.

    What's fundamentally so disappointing about Speed of Sound is that we've all heard what an amazingly beautiful, haunting, moving, affecting song it was from Eddie's demo, but the band seems to have drained all the soul from it by trying to do far too much with it. It's a beautifully simple song. They made it far too complicated, so that now it's painfully overwrought.

    But to give the rest of the band the credit they deserve, they transformed Unthought Known from a frankly boring song (lyrics notwithstanding) into something utterly transcendent...

    I agree with just about everything you said!

    Speed of Sound was gorgeous in the demo version. I was so stoked for it on the album. Then I heard it and ugh... ruined. I've warmed to it since, but still burdened down w/ weird 80s synthesizers and just overall molasses. Force of Nature is probably the most forgettable song on the album for me. Finally, Unthought Known is indeed transcendent... it's a masterpiece.

    Basically, what you said. :)
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    AmherstJammerAmherstJammer Amherst, Massachusetts Posts: 1,510
    Full band Speed of Sound... All day all night every day. Love it!
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    Its not even close. The solo version is beautiful. The album version actually makes me sad/disappointed in a way. I heard the album version before demo and I thought it was the weakest song on the album (tied with Force of Nature, but that song is reallying growing on me). Then heard the demo and its haunting, melodic and very moving. The major problem with the album version is Matt Cameron. I love him but he just overwhelms the song. I have to agree, live in Philly it sounded good.
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    does anyone know how to obtain this track ? pm me
    itunes?
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    OkOk Posts: 2,144
    I'm in the minority, but I thought it was pretty cool to have both versions and I definitely don't "hate" the album version as strongly as some do. With certain of the songs, I wish Ed would do more of this and put out both versions with studio recorded quality.
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    DempsDemps Posts: 98
    The demo is nice, but it sounds like another "Into the Wild" outtake instead of a Pearl Jam song and the album already has "Just Breathe" and "The End" which seem like EV solo songs. I love what the band did with "Speed of Sound" particularly the drumming from Matt, as it is absolutely counter to what you might expect and what 90% of drummers would do. I think the song greatly benefits from what the rest of the musicians brought to it.
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    I like both, but I think the record version is superior.

    The different parts of the song don't mesh as well for me on the demo. Feels like two different songs. I think the instrumentation on the record version pulls it all together (in the minority who feels Matt C's drum work is pitch perfect, maybe some of his best in terms of solidifying a sound) and really gives the final two chorus sections the power the lyrics call for. Plus the record version has lazers.
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    Plus the record version has lazers.
    but still burdened down w/ weird 80s synthesizers and just overall molasses.

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    InHiding19InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    Ed played it solo at a couple of solo gigs in June.
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    rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,917
    Solo version is another somewhat bland acoustic demo. No thanks. Full-band version has some life ...
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