Heroes

soulsinging

prfctlefts wrote:

Any man or woman that has served.
My Grandfather
My Parents

i will never understand why we talk this way about soldiers but shit on teachers. that's america's biggest problem right there. not that i don't respect what they do... but it makes as little sense as our unquestioned acceptance of violence on tv and in movies, while nudity gives us fits.

Cosmo

prfctlefts wrote:

Any man or woman that has served.

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I get where you're going with this... but, that 'any' part...
That means that John Kerry is your Hero.
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and so is Timothy McVeigh.

rebornFixer

soulsinging wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

Any man or woman that has served.
My Grandfather
My Parents

i will never understand why we talk this way about soldiers but shit on teachers. that's america's biggest problem right there. not that i don't respect what they do... but it makes as little sense as our unquestioned acceptance of violence on tv and in movies, while nudity gives us fits.

Not sure what you're driving at here ... Not everyone shits on teachers, and not everyone respects soldiers. Not even sure how one thought leads to the other.

I will agree with the nudity point, though ... Some titties on TV are the end of the world, but its OK to make movies that graphically portray physical and psychological torture under the guise of entertainment value.

dimitrispearljam

maybe a reason that alot of countries hate Usa is that u shit on teachers and respect the soldiers..
im not,,i know that people are served try the best..i do it 18 years now in my country..but teachers are ore inportant than me..couse they will teach u about ,freedom,democracy,respect,history,will open your mind..with a peacefull way,not the way my job do,,,

dimitrispearljam

i put in my post
Herman Hesse
Georgios Papanikolaou(test pap)
Socrates
Great Alexander

there was a huge voting here of who is the greatiest Greek of all times...
people vote..
1st was Alexander the Great

the only one that make wars of all 10...
i vote Georgios Papanikolaou..he is the person that actually save the world in his way..he found test pap..that save women from this fuckin sickness...and we all come up from women...

FiveB247x

I don't have any "hereos". No one is perfect. Some display acts of bravery or courage which is greatly admired, but I would never say someone is my hero. As George Carlin once said - "Symbols are for simple minded people." And that's all hero's are, symbols.

Byrnzie

FiveB247x wrote:

I don't have any "hereos". No one is perfect. Some display acts of bravery or courage which is greatly admired, but I would never say someone is my hero. As George Carlin once said - "Symbols are for simple minded people." And that's all hero's are, symbols.

I never said that any of the people I admire are/were perfect. And they are not mere symbols either.

catefrances

rebornFixer wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

Any man or woman that has served.
My Grandfather
My Parents

i will never understand why we talk this way about soldiers but shit on teachers. that's america's biggest problem right there. not that i don't respect what they do... but it makes as little sense as our unquestioned acceptance of violence on tv and in movies, while nudity gives us fits.

Not sure what you're driving at here ... Not everyone shits on teachers, and not everyone respects soldiers. Not even sure how one thought leads to the other.

I will agree with the nudity point, though ... Some titties on TV are the end of the world, but its OK to make movies that graphically portray physical and psychological torture under the guise of entertainment value.

titties???? what about a penis?? is that too much to ask for? i know guys have an 'issue' with their penis but come on... something for the girls would be nice, you know. perhaps if we saw all kinds of penisea on our screens guys wouldnt be made to feel so lacking and inadequate.

rebornFixer

catefrances wrote:

titties???? what about a penis?? is that too much to ask for? i know guys have an 'issue' with their penis but come on... something for the girls would be nice, you know. perhaps if we saw all kinds of penisea on our screens guys wouldnt be made to feel so lacking and inadequate.

You win ... For the record, I have no real beef with cocks hanging out either, although I will say that they do nothing for me personally.

catefrances

rebornFixer wrote:

catefrances wrote:

titties???? what about a penis?? is that too much to ask for? i know guys have an 'issue' with their penis but come on... something for the girls would be nice, you know. perhaps if we saw all kinds of penisea on our screens guys wouldnt be made to feel so lacking and inadequate.

You win ... For the record, I have no real beef with cocks hanging out either, although I will say that they do nothing for me personally.

im only thinking of you guys.

more exposure and girls wouldnt giggle when they saw one. theyd become as 'everyday' as titties have become. though i cant really see us girls walking past a guy and saying... nice cock (like some guys think its ok to comment on titties)... thats usually a more private exchange.

DriftingByTheStorm

R Buckminster Fuller
Bill Mollison
John Adams

not necessarily "heroes", but people who are at the "top of my heap", in terms of respect for their ideology, brilliance, personality, contribution to humanity, etc.

All three are against the grain, quirky, at least somewhat curmudgeonly, intently concerned with the well being of ALL humanity, and had massive conviction.

JR8805

I think you have to be very careful of who your heroes are and very practical about why these people are your heroes. I think it's a bad habit to say that so and so is flat-out your hero...so and so can be your hero when it comes to this or that trait or accomplishment, but you are bound to be in for a sea of disappointment if you just say that some person is your hero period. Humans are a weak, fragile lot; and, their weaknesses will always outweigh any strong point they may display. I'm not saying don't admire that strong point, I'm just saying don't generalize the good thing to the point you start forgetting the person is in fact just a person--just like any other.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

as long as you realise everyone has their faults and weaknesses, there is nothing wrong with having heroes. if someone has mastered a certain aspect of their life, and its an area you also wish to master, that person should be admired as a hero.

TriumphantAngel

sometimes things are over analyzed. for me the word hero, just means someone i have looked up to at some stage in my life, and that can change depending on what point in your life you are at. when i was 6 yoda and luke sykywalker were my heroes. the only non fictional character that i would call my hero is my brother.

for me, heros represent the best of ourselves, yet being human and therefore flawed, they also help and allow us to accept our limitations.

Jeanwah

“Without heroes, we are all plain people, and don't know how far we can go” - Bernard Malamud

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

Clint Muthafuckin Eastwood

soulsinging

catefrances wrote:

rebornFixer wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

i will never understand why we talk this way about soldiers but shit on teachers. that's america's biggest problem right there. not that i don't respect what they do... but it makes as little sense as our unquestioned acceptance of violence on tv and in movies, while nudity gives us fits.

Not sure what you're driving at here ... Not everyone shits on teachers, and not everyone respects soldiers. Not even sure how one thought leads to the other.

I will agree with the nudity point, though ... Some titties on TV are the end of the world, but its OK to make movies that graphically portray physical and psychological torture under the guise of entertainment value.

titties???? what about a penis?? is that too much to ask for? i know guys have an 'issue' with their penis but come on... something for the girls would be nice, you know. perhaps if we saw all kinds of penisea on our screens guys wouldnt be made to feel so lacking and inadequate.

yeah, becos the people on american tv are 'average' in the physical appeal dept

as to titties, i think most americans think of the janet jackson breast thing at the super bowl a few years ago. we drag our feet for months on health care, but her tit pops out for 1/10th of a second on national tv and the entire country went ape shit and congress was having hearings the next day. over here, titties on tv apparently ARE the end of the world. we'll be scorching in hell before we ever let a cock on tv.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

soulsinging wrote:

catefrances wrote:

rebornFixer wrote:

Not sure what you're driving at here ... Not everyone shits on teachers, and not everyone respects soldiers. Not even sure how one thought leads to the other.

I will agree with the nudity point, though ... Some titties on TV are the end of the world, but its OK to make movies that graphically portray physical and psychological torture under the guise of entertainment value.

titties???? what about a penis?? is that too much to ask for? i know guys have an 'issue' with their penis but come on... something for the girls would be nice, you know. perhaps if we saw all kinds of penisea on our screens guys wouldnt be made to feel so lacking and inadequate.

yeah, becos the people on american tv are 'average' in the physical appeal dept

as to titties, i think most americans think of the janet jackson breast thing at the super bowl a few years ago. we drag our feet for months on health care, but her tit pops out for 1/10th of a second on national tv and the entire country went ape shit and congress was having hearings the next day. over here, titties on tv apparently ARE the end of the world. we'll be scorching in hell before we ever let a cock on tv.

thing is most americans couldnt care less. its just a few that do, but they are in very high places.

NoK

MrSmith wrote:

thing is most americans couldnt care less. its just a few that do, but they are in very high places.

I think its more along the lines of religious folks caring very much about this issue and people in high places acting like they give a shit in order to gain the support of these people.

catefrances

NoK wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

thing is most americans couldnt care less. its just a few that do, but they are in very high places.

I think its more along the lines of religious folks caring very much about this issue and people in high places acting like they give a shit in order to gain the support of these people.

this is what happens when your saviour was the result of a virgin birth. no doodles please were christians.