Grabbing for items the band tosses out into the crowd
mrswhatsit
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One comment about stuff the band tosses out into the crowd. People have every right to make a reach for it if it's a general toss (not like the wine bottle on Saturday which was being given to a certain person), but please if some has rightfully secured it, let it go and enjoy the rest of the show. It was very sad to see the fight over the tambourine on Saturday, between section 102 and 103 around row 8. It got ugly and security had to intervene. No one wants it to get to the point where the band simply won't toss anything out because they don't want people getting hurt.
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Yeah. It's easy to forget that some of the people who go to the shows are not like the people who post on here. Even with a predominantly 10C audience like we had on Saturday, there are still some undesirables that will find their way into the shows. Like the jerk I ran into on the way out of the arena. Clearly people weren't moving much due to the lack of exits, and yet this guy thought it would be cool to lean in and yell in everyone's ear right in front of him. Having someone yell "move out of my way, motherf***er!" was not how I would have preferred to leave the show. If only everyone could be more respectful. It's too bad that a few bad apples can ruin things for other people. Hopefully most people were able to enjoy the amazing shows despite these outliers.
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i *just* posted about this very incident in edvedder913's thread about her being accosted for her wine bottle.
seriously - that was insane!
i'm going to guess we were right near each other. honestly, i didn't even SEE the tamborine come our way - typical of me :P and i probably wouldn't even try for it, and looking at what happened to that guy, that's why! :? :( :wtf: it was soooo bad, and lasted waaayyyy too long, i'm a chick and i went to his aide to try and get people off him! i think his friend/GF thought i was trying for the tamborine :? , understandable i guess...but looking at the guy he looked distressed/possibly injured, thus why i wanted to try and block some people off him. i had some guy grab me and kiss me on the cheek, tell me he loved me
this is also why the ONLY souvenirs from shows i've ever gotten were 2 picks and a setlist handed to me, directly, b/c there's just NO way i would ever dive/fight it out...for anything....
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My car, and 2 others around mine, had their sideview mirrors literally broken off. Classy.
That was nice of you to try to help the tambourine guy, and yes, I'd never dive for anything either. There were a few drunk guys in that area, but one loser stands out - the tall guy with the black baseball cap who kept spilling beer, trying to push up to the front, and being a general inconsiderate dolt. You're way more understanding than I would have been. He would have been doubled over four nanoseconds after his drunk stranger lips touched me. And I so don't get trying to shove into other people's space. We're all in the fan club, we all had great seats, we were all happy to be there, we'd all like to be as close to the stage as possible (and we were!
everyone around us were just awesome
I go to alot of different band's shows, PJ throws more stuff into the audience then any group I have seen. With people acting like idiots in fighting for stuff, dont be surprised one day if they stop doing it.
Be civil people, if something lands in front of you or is coming right at you , grab it and its yours. But dont knock people over to get things , that is totally uncool. I have been fortunate to be up close at shows and had things close by, if I was a real asshole I guess I could push people out of the way, etc, etc to get things , but it is an asshole thing to do.
to be honest, i was simply fearful for his safety. :oops: i would hope if i were in that situation, someone, or a few somebodys...would come to my aid as well. i really thought he got hurt.
and oh my....yes....that was him!
i hear ya about the space. i've said to a few friends since, i just don't get it. you are sooo right. we ALL had such AWESOME seats! (thank you again tony for the fantastic row 8 spot - you rock my friend!) so these 2 giants were row 7, right on the inner aisle, GREAT view...made even greater bu the fact that they were giants, short people in front of em to boot....so absolutely NO reason to need to get closer, get a better view, etc. i felt bad for the security guy b/c the big, drunk guy jut going right up to him. the guy was piss drunk, no doubt. early in the show almost every other song either he or his buddy went an got more beers... :? and hey, no judgements....if that's how you enjoy a show, fine. if he were short, i wouldn't have minded at all.
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I suggest you step out on your Porch.
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while technically not a "fight"..i think the op is merely referencing the fact that the guy did practically get tackled, was pushed down the ground, and people WERE still grabbing at him/it, even after he CLEARLY had it in his possession...to the point that he had it completely wrapped up in his arms, pulled close to his body. i was right there, witnessed - in amazement - the whole thing. i've seen plenty of people dive/grab for tamborines and picks, but never that long. and yes, his gf/wife had a GREAT pebbles flintstone costume and she was rocking out ALL night long - BOTH of them looked to be having a GREAT time, so was awesome to see them get the tamborine.
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no.
NOT the same guy.
this guy, while definitely out of line....was just a drunk fan, totally into the show having a GREAT time with his buddy. again, not the same guy. just wanted to clarify that fact.
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OK, cool. They found his pic, but I don't think we know whether they've been able to identify him so if it had been the same guy, it would be good to know which seats were his. Oh, well. I guess there was just a lot of strangers kissing strangers that night
My thoughts on tambourines is that Ed shouldn't frisbee them too far out into the crowd. Front couple rows only, and he should designate who they're intended for...not that that even helps, as we're reading over the philly wine bottle.
It's a priviledge to be that close to the stage, and part of that priviledge is to maybe get a souvenir. If you're back a bunch of rows: too bad, plain and simple.
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that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard; "if you're in the first few rows, you should be treated better than the rest of the crowd". :roll:
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B/c some "fatass chick" got a bunch of picks, she's greedy? Mike throws them out by the handful, it's nobody's job to make sure everybody in the crowd gets one.
Ed should throw the tambourines further into the crowd. He does alot of picking and choosing and randomly tossing, but he doesn't ever seem to really give it a good throw.
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only to help curb chaos out in the crowds. i'm sure ed's not tossing them hoping that people fight over them. which is why when he's throwing them to the first few rows, he points out the person he intends to have the souvenir. obviously he can't do that twenty rows back.
watch...in the end, the tambourine throwing to the farther out rows will stop. you'll see.
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10/3/05 - Philadelphia, PA 5/12/06 - Albany, NY
6/27/08 - Hartford, CT (FRONT ROW CENTER!)
8/2/08 - (ev) Boston, MA 6/9/09 - (ev) Albany, NY
8/21/09 - Toronto, ON 5/10/10 - Buffalo, NY
yeah she's greedy because she already had a few and could have given some to the people around her. and it may not be anybody's job, but since when is "giving" a job? most of the time people "VOLUNTEER" to give. so you're right, it is no one's "job"...it would be out of pure generosity to hand a pick to a fellow fan.
and speaking of "jobs", it didn't become eddie's job to make sure people weren't fighting over souvenirs until they started getting greedy. now he actually has to point at you...
when i was lucky enough to get picks, i gladly gave a couple away to folks next to and behind me, and to my sisters who were sitting in the lawn. why would i need more than one of the same exact pick?
and i'm sorry to be crass with the use of the phrase "fatass", but it was due to that very characteristic which allowed her to dominate the space around her. if i could have just gotten an arm in somewhere i probably could have snagged a pick, but seriously, her ass was in the way.
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10/3/05 - Philadelphia, PA 5/12/06 - Albany, NY
6/27/08 - Hartford, CT (FRONT ROW CENTER!)
8/2/08 - (ev) Boston, MA 6/9/09 - (ev) Albany, NY
8/21/09 - Toronto, ON 5/10/10 - Buffalo, NY
But there was one jerk around us - when a guy in row 2 accidentally dropped his pick onto the ground in 1st row, this guy put his foot on it and would not move his foot or return the pick. Nothing on the order of what others have related, but as with everything else in life most people are great but there are always a few assholes who can ruin other people's experiences out of proportion to their actual numbers.
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13: 10-15 Worcester 1, 10-16 Worcester 2, 10-25 Hartford
16: 4-29 Philly 2, 5-1 MSG 1, 8-5 Fenway 1, 8-7 Fenway 2
18: 9-2 Fenway 1, 9-4 Fenway 2
21: 9-26 Ohana
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Tres Mts: 3-27-11 Boston
i dont get why people act like somehow posting here or joining the 10c makes you a better person. we've got the same percent of douchebags as any other segment of the population. and when it comes to merch... no way could you spend a day on the porch and see the 100 poster threads and be unaware that people around here clearly have no perspective when it comes to collecting more pj shit.
this whole exchange seriously has me laughing.....
and, i have to agree. i remember in london 2007 having a convo with a bunch of fans/friends, saying how i have never gotten a pick, etc. not a complaint, was simply an observation. one of my good friends - buru! my argentinian goddess!- practically on the spot handed me one of mike's picks b/c as she said, she had caught a handful. was one of the sweetest gestures, EVER! then, my very next show - dusseldorf - i was lucky enough to snag fron row on the rail between mike and jeff. while they did not personally hand them right to me, being that close....it was quite easy to get one from each. awesome momentos. so then, i now had 2 mike picks. i then passed on one of em to my good friend from here obi once - just a great guy who also happened to let me crash on his sofa for a week, played tour guide for me in his city, smoked me all up
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but its different when its for a specific person. dont be a dick.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
just to give a positive post on the topic
I've caught a few picks, but immediatley handed them to someone next to me.
It's all about seeing a great show...everything else is just a diversion.