all i can say is, that if anyone has difficulty understanding why obama would be reluctant to appear on fox news, then any connection between your reality and mine, is purely coincidental.
Obama did give Fox an interview (O'Riley). I am talking about not letting Fox interview the pay czar which was wrong and the rest of the media knew it was wrong....and they know it could happen to them....so they stood up and said they were not going to do the interview if Fox was not allowed. The media knows they could be next....[/quote]
so what are you getting at, that the rest of the major news outlets could be prevented from interviewing administration officials? i SERIOUSLY doubt that networks like nbc, cbs, abc, cnn, or any newspaper will be blacklisted from interviewing officials. stop spreading this irrational fear that the media is going to be silenced. did you hear this on fox news?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
What about the President of the United States trying to dictate what is news and who is allowed to report it. Anyone can see this Presidency is getting out of hand. Who the hell does he think he is shutting out fox from the press pool. I have to say I was impressed with the other news stations standing up for Free Press! Freedom is something Obama does not understand!
So should Obama talk to everyone? What about the National Enquirer?
Obama wants to pick and choose what news will be reported. No one is talking about Obama doing an interview.[/quote]
why don't you give us a source for this claim that obama is trying to control what news gets reported. the only thing i can find after searching is bloggers, and no they are not news media either.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
While I'm not arguing that some of the people in the Obama Administration has some views that I disagree with, the clearly out-of-context examples that the Becks, Hannitys and the right wing blogs are hitching their wagons too are a joke...
The most recent Anita Dunn thing is a perfect example... if you watch the whole thing in context, it's obvious that she is saying the whole Mao Tse Tung/Mother Theresa thing as a joke in a speech... I guess anyone who makes a joke in a college graduation speech or whatever can no longer try to put humor in it, for fear that someday they want to work in government.
And the Cass Susstien criticism... lambasting him for out of context things in books he has written or only edited is grasping at straws on all levels. And he is against hunting? so are a lot of people, I don't agree with it, but if some guy who works in a paper-pushing government department that has absolutely NOTHING to do with gun control or animal rights policy, then what do I care? That would be like saying and accountant is bad because of his stance on abortion.
That baby pic on your avatar is just so darn cute!
What about the President of the United States trying to dictate what is news and who is allowed to report it. Anyone can see this Presidency is getting out of hand. Who the hell does he think he is shutting out fox from the press pool. I have to say I was impressed with the other news stations standing up for Free Press! Freedom is something Obama does not understand!
So should Obama talk to everyone? What about the National Enquirer?
Obama wants to pick and choose what news will be reported. No one is talking about Obama doing an interview.
why don't you give us a source for this claim that obama is trying to control what news gets reported. the only thing i can find after searching is bloggers, and no they are not news media either.[/quote]
i still found no source to back up this position, am i to guess you did not find a source either?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
There is no such thing as free press in this country. Fox and the rest may seem different, (Rupert Murdoch can attest to that, yet he is becoming more and more of an owner of many media stations and outlets, not just Fox), but they're all under the tent of Mainstream Media, and it's no secret that the MSM is controlled by the gov't. And when I say gov't, I don't say Obama, I mean the system. Obama could change things, but he's not interested. I've been following FreePress.net for years now, which fights for full media reform, including net neutrality, non-censorship, and independent ownerships. You're kidding yourselves if you think that there's a difference in ABC, NBC, CNN, FoxNews, and the rest. Fox does blatantly make their own shit up, that's obvious (thanks Murdoch), but they're all only reporting what our gov't wants us to hear. Look elsewhere if you really want to hear what's up in the world of news.
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What about the President of the United States trying to dictate what is news and who is allowed to report it. Anyone can see this Presidency is getting out of hand. Who the hell does he think he is shutting out fox from the press pool. I have to say I was impressed with the other news stations standing up for Free Press! Freedom is something Obama does not understand!
So should Obama talk to everyone? What about the National Enquirer?
Obama wants to pick and choose what news will be reported. No one is talking about Obama doing an interview.
Don't think for a moment Fox News doesn't pick and choose what it wants to air yet some STILL consider them *Fair & Balanced*
Fox News Refuses Anti-Bush Ad
From Democracy Now Dec 4, 2007
In media news, the Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News network has refused to run an ad criticizing President Bush over the use of extraordinary renditions, torture and denying habeas corpus. The commercial was produced by the Center for Constitutional Rights and features the narration of actor Danny Glover. The CCR submitted the ad ahead of tomorrow’s scheduled Supreme Court hearing in the case of two Guantanamo prisoners challenging their detentions.
July 8th 2008 Democracy Now...here's an instance why Obama refuses to take interviews with Fox News;
McClellan: White House Fed Talking Points to Fox News
Former White House spokesperson Scott McClellan has revealed the Bush administration routinely fed talking points to several top hosts at the Rupert Murdoch-owned network Fox News. McClellan was interviewed by MSNBC’s Chris Matthews.
Scott McClellan: “Certainly, there were commentators and others, pundits at Fox News, that were helpful to the White House, and then, certainly—yeah, certainly, we got talking points to those people.”
Chris Matthews: “Did you use—did people say ‘Call Sean. Call Bill. Call whoever’? Did you do that as a regular thing?”
McClellan: “Certainly, certainly. It wasn’t necessarily something I was doing, but it was something that we at the White House, yes, were doing, and getting them talking points and making sure they knew where we were coming from.”
Matthews: “So you were giving them talking points"—
McClellan: “But I would separate the journalists.”
Matthews: "No, no. This is important. You were using these commentators as your spokespeople.”
McClellan: “Well, certainly. I mean, certainly, I think that happens both ways, when people go on other networks, as well, that are favorable towards the Democrats and so forth.”
Matthews: “Nobody’s ever fed me any crap like that, so I don’t know what you’re talking about.”
McClellan: “Well, you’re an independent-minded guy.”
The White House has not denied McClellan’s statement.
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ALL Presidents have their disagreements with the media, Obama included with his dislike towards Fox News.
Neither of the Bush presidents had a particularly cozy relationship with the press. George H.W. Bush finished the campaign in 1992 with a bumper sticker that suggested, “Annoy the Media. Vote Bush.” And George W. Bush, in the words of ABC’s Mark Halperin, viewed “the media as a special interest rather than as guardians of the public interest.” Bill Clinton, too, distrusted the press, as did others in his administration. When Vincent Foster, Mr. Clinton’s deputy White House counsel, committed suicide in 1993, he left behind a note accusing the Wall Street Journal’s editorial page of lying.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
My reaction, exactly.
In my dealings with the person who originated this... he has no clue who most of these people are (if any) and has nothing to back up his claim... other than, "I heard it on the Rush Limbaugh show" or "FOX did a story on this".
In you dealings ? WTF is that suppose to mean. :? :? :roll: No you're the one who doesn't have a clue and you will be one of the people just like most of the people on here who are going to wake up one day and wonder what the hell happen to my country. Hopefully one day all you will take your head out of your ass and wake the hell up before it's to late. I know exactly who these people are and no I didnt get this from Fox or Rush. Do you know how many links there are for all of these people that I mentioned ? Way to many to list. Jesus just go wiki these people thats all Im asking and you will see for your self who these people are.
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Wikipedia? Seriously? Wikipedia? Does this mean i get to rest my case?
Do a global search and provide me with references that are not 'Tea Party' blogs or forums.
Give us references that are based in TRUTH, not interpretations or sound bites.
Give us full context or full text transcripts... so we can read and decide for ourselves... rather than take your word from what you've read on Wikipedia.
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There is no such thing as free press in this country. Fox and the rest may seem different, (Rupert Murdoch can attest to that, yet he is becoming more and more of an owner of many media stations and outlets, not just Fox), but they're all under the tent of Mainstream Media, and it's no secret that the MSM is controlled by the gov't. And when I say gov't, I don't say Obama, I mean the system. Obama could change things, but he's not interested. I've been following FreePress.net for years now, which fights for full media reform, including net neutrality, non-censorship, and independent ownerships. You're kidding yourselves if you think that there's a difference in ABC, NBC, CNN, FoxNews, and the rest. Fox does blatantly make their own shit up, that's obvious (thanks Murdoch), but they're all only reporting what our gov't wants us to hear. Look elsewhere if you really want to hear what's up in the world of news.
Rupert Murdoch is simply a news pimp. Beck and the rest are his whores. If Murdoch thought for 1 minute that he could make more money catering to the liberal left, Fox News would declare Obama the Messiah and Glenn Beck would be insanely ranting about the saving the polar bear and the sublime glory of the public option. It's all about the almighty dollar with them.
Rupert Murdoch is simply a news pimp. Beck and the rest are his whores. If Murdoch thought for 1 minute that he could make more money catering to the liberal left, Fox News would declare Obama the Messiah and Glenn Beck would be insanely ranting about the saving the polar bear and the sublime glory of the public option. It's all about the almighty dollar with them.
very good point my friend. murdoch realized there was no network that caters to the right and he made a pile of money by becoming that network. gotta give him credit for his success, but in my opinion not much else.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Obama did give Fox an interview (O'Riley). I am talking about not letting Fox interview the pay czar which was wrong and the rest of the media knew it was wrong....and they know it could happen to them....so they stood up and said they were not going to do the interview if Fox was not allowed. The media knows they could be next....[/quote]
so what are you getting at, that the rest of the major news outlets could be prevented from interviewing administration officials? i SERIOUSLY doubt that networks like nbc, cbs, abc, cnn, or any newspaper will be blacklisted from interviewing officials. stop spreading this irrational fear that the media is going to be silenced. did you hear this on fox news?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
why don't you give us a source for this claim that obama is trying to control what news gets reported. the only thing i can find after searching is bloggers, and no they are not news media either.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
i still found no source to back up this position, am i to guess you did not find a source either?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Don't think for a moment Fox News doesn't pick and choose what it wants to air yet some STILL consider them *Fair & Balanced*
Fox News Refuses Anti-Bush Ad
From Democracy Now Dec 4, 2007
In media news, the Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News network has refused to run an ad criticizing President Bush over the use of extraordinary renditions, torture and denying habeas corpus. The commercial was produced by the Center for Constitutional Rights and features the narration of actor Danny Glover. The CCR submitted the ad ahead of tomorrow’s scheduled Supreme Court hearing in the case of two Guantanamo prisoners challenging their detentions.
July 8th 2008 Democracy Now...here's an instance why Obama refuses to take interviews with Fox News;
McClellan: White House Fed Talking Points to Fox News
Former White House spokesperson Scott McClellan has revealed the Bush administration routinely fed talking points to several top hosts at the Rupert Murdoch-owned network Fox News. McClellan was interviewed by MSNBC’s Chris Matthews.
Scott McClellan: “Certainly, there were commentators and others, pundits at Fox News, that were helpful to the White House, and then, certainly—yeah, certainly, we got talking points to those people.”
Chris Matthews: “Did you use—did people say ‘Call Sean. Call Bill. Call whoever’? Did you do that as a regular thing?”
McClellan: “Certainly, certainly. It wasn’t necessarily something I was doing, but it was something that we at the White House, yes, were doing, and getting them talking points and making sure they knew where we were coming from.”
Matthews: “So you were giving them talking points"—
McClellan: “But I would separate the journalists.”
Matthews: "No, no. This is important. You were using these commentators as your spokespeople.”
McClellan: “Well, certainly. I mean, certainly, I think that happens both ways, when people go on other networks, as well, that are favorable towards the Democrats and so forth.”
Matthews: “Nobody’s ever fed me any crap like that, so I don’t know what you’re talking about.”
McClellan: “Well, you’re an independent-minded guy.”
The White House has not denied McClellan’s statement.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
The Media Equation: The Battle Between the White House and Fox News
ALL Presidents have their disagreements with the media, Obama included with his dislike towards Fox News.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Wikipedia? Seriously? Wikipedia? Does this mean i get to rest my case?
Do a global search and provide me with references that are not 'Tea Party' blogs or forums.
Give us references that are based in TRUTH, not interpretations or sound bites.
Give us full context or full text transcripts... so we can read and decide for ourselves... rather than take your word from what you've read on Wikipedia.
Hail, Hail!!!
Yep. It's all a charade.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."