Who are these people ?

WaveCameCrashin

If the president wasn't Barak Obama and was some white southern president and he had throughout his administration and in the white house appointed individuals who had praised or even belonged to the KKK or any kind of white supremacy,or hate group.

Do you think there would be attention paid to that ? Do you think there should be attention paid to that ?

Do you think we should know their names and their backgrounds ?

Do you think the president should be asked why he would appoint such people to his administration ?

Do you think it's healthy for the country to have such people in Gov. ?

I think it's obvious that it would be a major scandal, and it should be...

Now what about a president who has throughout his administration has appointees who quotes and praises Mao Tse Tung as one of their favorite philosophers ( Anita Dunn and Ron Bloom) or embraces Marxism ?

Or what about a person who is an advocate of Transnationalism (Harold Koh) which is defined as being a concept that argues in favor of Global Governance as opposed to the Constitutional Sovereignty of an independent nation or state.

Cass Susstien - Who believes that hunting should be banned ( 2nd amendment ) and thinks animals should have the right to sue people and wants to put in place the fairness doctrine.

John P. Holdren (science czar ) strong believer in Eugenics, forced abortions, Mass sterilization,Drugs put into our drinking water.. just go read some of his quotes from the book he co authored Eco-Science

Head of the FTC Mark Loyd- Who wants to regulate the internet and wants the fairness doctrine and praises Hugo Chevez for censoring the media in Venezuela ?

The list goes on and on..

soulsinging

the only one of your examples that even comes close to hate groups like the KKK is the guy advocating sterilization and eugenics, and i've looked into those claims and they're vastly overblown.

blackredyellow

While I'm not arguing that some of the people in the Obama Administration has some views that I disagree with, the clearly out-of-context examples that the Becks, Hannitys and the right wing blogs are hitching their wagons too are a joke...

The most recent Anita Dunn thing is a perfect example... if you watch the whole thing in context, it's obvious that she is saying the whole Mao Tse Tung/Mother Theresa thing as a joke in a speech... I guess anyone who makes a joke in a college graduation speech or whatever can no longer try to put humor in it, for fear that someday they want to work in government.

And the Cass Susstien criticism... lambasting him for out of context things in books he has written or only edited is grasping at straws on all levels. And he is against hunting? so are a lot of people, I don't agree with it, but if some guy who works in a paper-pushing government department that has absolutely NOTHING to do with gun control or animal rights policy, then what do I care? That would be like saying and accountant is bad because of his stance on abortion.

WaveCameCrashin

I strongly disagree with both of you and none of this is taken out of context go do your own research,you wont have to dig deep at all.

blackredyellow

prfctlefts wrote:

I strongly disagree with both of you and none of this is taken out of context go do your own research,you wont have to dig deep at all.

But what does Cass Sunstein's animal rights views have to do with his position in the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs?

inmytree

prfctlefts wrote:

If the president wasn't Barak Obama and was some white southern president and he had throughout his administration and in the white house appointed individuals who had praised or even belonged to the KKK or any kind of white supremacy,or hate group.

Do you think there would be attention paid to that ? Do you think there should be attention paid to that ?

Do you think we should know their names and their backgrounds ?

Do you think the president should be asked why he would appoint such people to his administration ?

Do you think it's healthy for the country to have such people in Gov. ?

I think it's obvious that it would be a major scandal, and it should be...

Now what about a president who has throughout his administration has appointees who quotes and praises Mao Tse Tung as one of their favorite philosophers ( Anita Dunn and Ron Bloom) or embraces Marxism ?

Or what about a person who is an advocate of Transnationalism (Harold Koh) which is defined as being a concept that argues in favor of Global Governance as opposed to the Constitutional Sovereignty of an independent nation or state.

Cass Susstien - Who believes that hunting should be banned ( 2nd amendment ) and thinks animals should have the right to sue people and wants to put in place the fairness doctrine.

John P. Holdren (science czar ) strong believer in Eugenics, forced abortions, Mass sterilization,Drugs put into our drinking water.. just go read some of his quotes from the book he co authored Eco-Science

Head of the FTC Mark Loyd- Who wants to regulate the internet and wants the fairness doctrine and praises Hugo Chevez for censoring the media in Venezuela ?

The list goes on and on..

is this one of those stupid chain email things....?

cuz it sure reads like one...

gimmesometruth27

inmytree wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

If the president wasn't Barak Obama and was some white southern president and he had throughout his administration and in the white house appointed individuals who had praised or even belonged to the KKK or any kind of white supremacy,or hate group.

Do you think there would be attention paid to that ? Do you think there should be attention paid to that ?

Do you think we should know their names and their backgrounds ?

Do you think the president should be asked why he would appoint such people to his administration ?

Do you think it's healthy for the country to have such people in Gov. ?

I think it's obvious that it would be a major scandal, and it should be...

Now what about a president who has throughout his administration has appointees who quotes and praises Mao Tse Tung as one of their favorite philosophers ( Anita Dunn and Ron Bloom) or embraces Marxism ?

Or what about a person who is an advocate of Transnationalism (Harold Koh) which is defined as being a concept that argues in favor of Global Governance as opposed to the Constitutional Sovereignty of an independent nation or state.

Cass Susstien - Who believes that hunting should be banned ( 2nd amendment ) and thinks animals should have the right to sue people and wants to put in place the fairness doctrine.

John P. Holdren (science czar ) strong believer in Eugenics, forced abortions, Mass sterilization,Drugs put into our drinking water.. just go read some of his quotes from the book he co authored Eco-Science

Head of the FTC Mark Loyd- Who wants to regulate the internet and wants the fairness doctrine and praises Hugo Chevez for censoring the media in Venezuela ?

The list goes on and on..

is this one of those stupid chain email things....?

cuz it sure reads like one...

that was my first reaction as well. i was going to comment but there were too many questions for me to research and think critically enough to answer right now.

soulsinging

prfctlefts wrote:

I strongly disagree with both of you and none of this is taken out of context go do your own research,you wont have to dig deep at all.

you disagree? so you think someone that is opposed to hunting is as bad and dangerous as someone wearing a white robe and lynching minorities?

gimmesometruth27

prfctlefts wrote:

If the president wasn't Barak Obama and was some white southern president and he had throughout his administration and in the white house appointed individuals who had praised or even belonged to the KKK or any kind of white supremacy,or hate group.

Do you think there would be attention paid to that ? Do you think there should be attention paid to that ?

Do you think we should know their names and their backgrounds ?

Do you think the president should be asked why he would appoint such people to his administration ?

Do you think it's healthy for the country to have such people in Gov. ?

I think it's obvious that it would be a major scandal, and it should be...

Now what about a president who has throughout his administration has appointees who quotes and praises Mao Tse Tung as one of their favorite philosophers ( Anita Dunn and Ron Bloom) or embraces Marxism ?

Or what about a person who is an advocate of Transnationalism (Harold Koh) which is defined as being a concept that argues in favor of Global Governance as opposed to the Constitutional Sovereignty of an independent nation or state.

Cass Susstien - Who believes that hunting should be banned ( 2nd amendment ) and thinks animals should have the right to sue people and wants to put in place the fairness doctrine.

John P. Holdren (science czar ) strong believer in Eugenics, forced abortions, Mass sterilization,Drugs put into our drinking water.. just go read some of his quotes from the book he co authored Eco-Science

Head of the FTC Mark Loyd- Who wants to regulate the internet and wants the fairness doctrine and praises Hugo Chevez for censoring the media in Venezuela ?

The list goes on and on..

actually most of this is all hypothetical. how are we supposed to have an opinion or be able to judge the public's and the media's attention or inattention paid to some of these hypothetical situations? for one, a person from the old south is probably not going to win the presidency any time in the next 20 years unless their views come drastically more to the middle. the positions of those from the right and the south as a whole are out of touch with mainstream america so all of this is hypothetical and i see no point in putting any effort into it.

he still stands

Maybe this is a left-wing conspiracy to dismantle the republican party. I mean come on, who can actually take this Glenn Beck crap seriously with this sort of ignorant paranoia and propaganda? Doesn't it just turn off most people from that side of the aisle or from politics altogether?

Then again, I see that he has really good ratings.

I guess I should remind myself to "think about how stupid the average person is, then remember that half of the people are more stupid than that."

:?

decides2dream

soulsinging wrote:

the only one of your examples that even comes close to hate groups like the KKK is the guy advocating sterilization and eugenics, and i've looked into those claims and they're vastly overblown.

exactly.
as to the validity of the claims in the OP, won't even bother....but you are comparing appels and oranges, really...outside of this one.

being anti-hunting isn't exactly a 'hate group'.....nor are any of the other examples presented. differing ideas on law and government ARE allowable in a democracy.

justam

That first chunk of words you put up, "If blah, blah, blah...," is not even a complete sentence!! :shock:

Cosmo

inmytree wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

If the president wasn't Barak Obama and was some white southern president and he had throughout his administration and in the white house appointed individuals who had praised or even belonged to the KKK or any kind of white supremacy,or hate group.

Do you think there would be attention paid to that ? Do you think there should be attention paid to that ?

Do you think we should know their names and their backgrounds ?

Do you think the president should be asked why he would appoint such people to his administration ?

Do you think it's healthy for the country to have such people in Gov. ?

I think it's obvious that it would be a major scandal, and it should be...

Now what about a president who has throughout his administration has appointees who quotes and praises Mao Tse Tung as one of their favorite philosophers ( Anita Dunn and Ron Bloom) or embraces Marxism ?

Or what about a person who is an advocate of Transnationalism (Harold Koh) which is defined as being a concept that argues in favor of Global Governance as opposed to the Constitutional Sovereignty of an independent nation or state.

Cass Susstien - Who believes that hunting should be banned ( 2nd amendment ) and thinks animals should have the right to sue people and wants to put in place the fairness doctrine.

John P. Holdren (science czar ) strong believer in Eugenics, forced abortions, Mass sterilization,Drugs put into our drinking water.. just go read some of his quotes from the book he co authored Eco-Science

Head of the FTC Mark Loyd- Who wants to regulate the internet and wants the fairness doctrine and praises Hugo Chevez for censoring the media in Venezuela ?

The list goes on and on..

is this one of those stupid chain email things....?

cuz it sure reads like one...

...
My reaction, exactly.
In my dealings with the person who originated this... he has no clue who most of these people are (if any) and has nothing to back up his claim... other than, "I heard it on the Rush Limbaugh show" or "FOX did a story on this".

WaveCameCrashin

Cosmo wrote:

My reaction, exactly.
In my dealings with the person who originated this... he has no clue who most of these people are (if any) and has nothing to back up his claim... other than, "I heard it on the Rush Limbaugh show" or "FOX did a story on this".

In you dealings ? WTF is that suppose to mean. :? :? :roll: No you're the one who doesn't have a clue and you will be one of the people just like most of the people on here who are going to wake up one day and wonder what the hell happen to my country. Hopefully one day all you will take your head out of your ass and wake the hell up before it's to late. I know exactly who these people are and no I didnt get this from Fox or Rush. Do you know how many links there are for all of these people that I mentioned ? Way to many to list. Jesus just go wiki these people thats all Im asking and you will see for your self who these people are.

brandon10

prfctlefts wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

My reaction, exactly.
In my dealings with the person who originated this... he has no clue who most of these people are (if any) and has nothing to back up his claim... other than, "I heard it on the Rush Limbaugh show" or "FOX did a story on this".

In you dealings ? WTF is that suppose to mean. :? :? :roll: No you're the one who doesn't have a clue and you will be one of the people just like most of the people on here who are going to wake up one day and wonder what the hell happen to my country. Hopefully one day all you will take your head out of your ass and wake the hell up before it's to late. I know exactly who these people are and no I didnt get this from Fox or Rush. Do you know how many links there are for all of these people that I mentioned ? Way to many to list. Jesus just go wiki these people thats all Im asking and you will see for your self who these people are.

When did Glen Beck become a pearl jam fan?

inmytree

prfctlefts wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

My reaction, exactly.
In my dealings with the person who originated this... he has no clue who most of these people are (if any) and has nothing to back up his claim... other than, "I heard it on the Rush Limbaugh show" or "FOX did a story on this".

In you dealings ? WTF is that suppose to mean. :? :? :roll: No you're the one who doesn't have a clue and you will be one of the people just like most of the people on here who are going to wake up one day and wonder what the hell happen to my country. Hopefully one day all you will take your head out of your ass and wake the hell up before it's to late. I know exactly who these people are and no I didnt get this from Fox or Rush. Do you know how many links there are for all of these people that I mentioned ? Way to many to list. Jesus just go wiki these people thats all Im asking and you will see for your self who these people are.

yikes...

how do you know your clues are pointing you in the right direction...?

soulsinging

prfctlefts wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

My reaction, exactly.
In my dealings with the person who originated this... he has no clue who most of these people are (if any) and has nothing to back up his claim... other than, "I heard it on the Rush Limbaugh show" or "FOX did a story on this".

In you dealings ? WTF is that suppose to mean. :? :? :roll: No you're the one who doesn't have a clue and you will be one of the people just like most of the people on here who are going to wake up one day and wonder what the hell happen to my country. Hopefully one day all you will take your head out of your ass and wake the hell up before it's to late. I know exactly who these people are and no I didnt get this from Fox or Rush. Do you know how many links there are for all of these people that I mentioned ? Way to many to list. Jesus just go wiki these people thats all Im asking and you will see for your self who these people are.

Aside from the eugenics thing (which I already talked about), nothing you listed in your op really bothers me. Maybe you'll be waking up all pissed off one day, but if I woke up one day to a country with a media free of special interests buying the news and national health care, i'd be pretty pleased.

aerial

soulsinging wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

My reaction, exactly.
In my dealings with the person who originated this... he has no clue who most of these people are (if any) and has nothing to back up his claim... other than, "I heard it on the Rush Limbaugh show" or "FOX did a story on this".

In you dealings ? WTF is that suppose to mean. :? :? :roll: No you're the one who doesn't have a clue and you will be one of the people just like most of the people on here who are going to wake up one day and wonder what the hell happen to my country. Hopefully one day all you will take your head out of your ass and wake the hell up before it's to late. I know exactly who these people are and no I didnt get this from Fox or Rush. Do you know how many links there are for all of these people that I mentioned ? Way to many to list. Jesus just go wiki these people thats all Im asking and you will see for your self who these people are.

Aside from the eugenics thing (which I already talked about), nothing you listed in your op really bothers me. Maybe you'll be waking up all pissed off one day, but if I woke up one day to a country with a media free of special interests buying the news and national health care, i'd be pretty pleased.

What about the President of the United States trying to dictate what is news and who is allowed to report it. Anyone can see this Presidency is getting out of hand. Who the hell does he think he is shutting out fox from the press pool. I have to say I was impressed with the other news stations standing up for Free Press! Freedom is something Obama does not understand!

am158079

I agree with you, some of the points you make may be out of context, but as a whole the people in his administration need to be checked out before they run this Great Country into a third world country.

soulsinging

aerial wrote:

What about the President of the United States trying to dictate what is news and who is allowed to report it. Anyone can see this Presidency is getting out of hand. Who the hell does he think he is shutting out fox from the press pool. I have to say I was impressed with the other news stations standing up for Free Press! Freedom is something Obama does not understand!

He hasn't done that. He told Fox to go fuck themselves, a sentiment I readily agree with as Foxnews is a shining example of why a fairness doctrine isn't such a bad idea.

keeponrockin

[quote="aerial"

What about the President of the United States trying to dictate what is news and who is allowed to report it. Anyone can see this Presidency is getting out of hand. Who the hell does he think he is shutting out fox from the press pool. I have to say I was impressed with the other news stations standing up for Free Press! Freedom is something Obama does not understand![/quote]

So should Obama talk to everyone? What about the National Enquirer?