Musicians Demand Records of Music Used for Torture at GITMO

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited October 2009
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Huh?

    So musicians are against torture...m'kay, didn't know that until now. :lol:

    I expect not all musicians are against torture. For example, I notice that Ted Nugent hasn't jumped on this particular wagon.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Cranking up some Rage to piss off prisoners = not ok

    Is that how you describe torture? Pissing someone off?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited October 2009
    decides2dream wrote:
    besides which, isn't this whole thing about illegalities that occured there....said torture being illegal?


    beyond that, how a consumer chooses to utilize their purchase is one thing. using said artist's music in a commercial, a political campaign or sure...as part of a torture device....quite another.

    Personally, I choose to utilize my purchase of said music by way of listening to it for the sole purpose of enjoying said music in a way that both utilizes my ears and my brain...or mind...depending on the point of view of the said individual in question and their own personal...and preferential...opinion on said issue.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    cincybearcat wrote:
    ig news flash....don't use my music as torture!!!! Pretty silly.

    Pretty silly? So if you were a musician then you'd be o.k with your music being used in a military prison to torture people?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    soulsinging wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Huh?

    So musicians are against torture...m'kay, didn't know that until now. :lol:

    And I also didn't know that after you bought their music you can only use it in ways approved by them...interesting.

    when has it ever been otherwise? you've never heard of licensing fees, ascap, copyrights, etc? read the fine print on your cd's... you have only bought the right to listen to it.

    Exactly.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    :roll:
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    In war times......Playing loud music is not exceptable but chopping off someones head is okay? :?
    its not just playing loud music, it is the same song over and over and over again at ear splitting volume for up to 72 hours straight. it is designed to drive people crazy, make them lose their sanity. you are missing the point. the musicians are against the military or cia using the MUSIC THEY CREATED to torture people. this music was used without their permission and without their endorsement of the situation. you are missing the point. nobody said chopping heads off is acceptable. what does that have to do with musicians not wanting their creation used to torture???? its a bad comparison and you know it.
    I'm thinking that those not liking this story and PJ's involvement, really don't know or are completely indifferent to what's really going on. You should read the haters on PJ's Facebook page for standing up against Gitmo. It's ridiculous the amount of sheer ignorant people spewing crap out of their mouths about PJ and their politics. I swear the majority complaining probably don't even read full articles to even try to understand the reality of it all. Like the guy who posted above me. Indifference is the essence of inhumanity.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jeanwah wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    In war times......Playing loud music is not exceptable but chopping off someones head is okay? :?

    Like the guy who posted above me. Indifference is the essence of inhumanity.

    Ah, give him a break. He just wanted a chance to try out a new word: exceptable. :P
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    edited October 2009
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:

    Like the guy who posted above me. Indifference is the essence of inhumanity.

    Ah, give him a break. He just wanted a chance to try out a new word: exceptable. :P
    :) LOL, I was talking about the guy who could post nothing more than :roll: .
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Jeanwah wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    In war times......Playing loud music is not exceptable but chopping off someones head is okay? :?
    its not just playing loud music, it is the same song over and over and over again at ear splitting volume for up to 72 hours straight. it is designed to drive people crazy, make them lose their sanity. you are missing the point. the musicians are against the military or cia using the MUSIC THEY CREATED to torture people. this music was used without their permission and without their endorsement of the situation. you are missing the point. nobody said chopping heads off is acceptable. what does that have to do with musicians not wanting their creation used to torture???? its a bad comparison and you know it.
    I'm thinking that those not liking this story and PJ's involvement, really don't know or are completely indifferent to what's really going on. You should read the haters on PJ's Facebook page for standing up against Gitmo. It's ridiculous the amount of sheer ignorant people spewing crap out of their mouths about PJ and their politics. I swear the majority complaining probably don't even read full articles to even try to understand the reality of it all. Like the guy who posted above me. Indifference is the essence of inhumanity.

    really? one rolling of an eye and all of a sudden i am being indifferent? really?

    everyone who does not share your viewpoint is some kind of moron i presume right?

    here's another eye roll just for you, my dear....wait for it.... :arrow: ...wait for it.... :roll:
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    The Jeagler wrote:

    really? one rolling of an eye and all of a sudden i am being indifferent? really?

    everyone who does not share your viewpoint is some kind of moron i presume right?

    here's another eye roll just for you, my dear....wait for it.... :arrow: ...wait for it.... :roll:
    Yet you still haven't said anything informative about the article. :)
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,799
    Jeanwah wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    really? one rolling of an eye and all of a sudden i am being indifferent? really?

    everyone who does not share your viewpoint is some kind of moron i presume right?

    here's another eye roll just for you, my dear....wait for it.... :arrow: ...wait for it.... :roll:
    Yet you still haven't said anything intelligent about the article. :)
    would you really expect anything else? its much easier to just dismiss something rather than try to see the point of the musicians that are angry about this situation.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Jeanwah wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    really? one rolling of an eye and all of a sudden i am being indifferent? really?

    everyone who does not share your viewpoint is some kind of moron i presume right?

    here's another eye roll just for you, my dear....wait for it.... :arrow: ...wait for it.... :roll:
    Yet you still haven't said anything informative about the article. :)

    i find it annoying when celebrities attempt to push their agendas on me.

    not looking forward to ed talking about this next week.....just for you, :roll: :arrow: :)
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,799
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    really? one rolling of an eye and all of a sudden i am being indifferent? really?

    everyone who does not share your viewpoint is some kind of moron i presume right?

    here's another eye roll just for you, my dear....wait for it.... :arrow: ...wait for it.... :roll:
    Yet you still haven't said anything informative about the article. :)

    i find it annoying when celebrities attempt to push their agendas on me.

    not looking forward to ed talking about this next week.....just for you, :roll: :arrow: :)
    they are not pushing their agenda on you. they are standing up for their art and condemning the use of that art in the commission of crimes against humanity. they are condemning its use at gitmo. they are not pushing any agenda on you.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Yet you still haven't said anything informative about the article. :)

    i find it annoying when celebrities attempt to push their agendas on me.

    not looking forward to ed talking about this next week.....just for you, :roll: :arrow: :)
    they are not pushing their agenda on you. they are standing up for their art and condemning the use of that art in the commission of crimes against humanity. they are condemning its use at gitmo. they are not pushing any agenda on you.

    well that is your opinion, isn't it? in MY opinion, when ed uses his platform at the spectrum to talk about this next week, that would be pushing his agenda on me.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,799
    The Jeagler wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    [quote="The Jeagler

    i find it annoying when celebrities attempt to push their agendas on me.

    not looking forward to ed talking about this next week.....just for you, :roll: :arrow: :)
    they are not pushing their agenda on you. they are standing up for their art and condemning the use of that art in the commission of crimes against humanity. they are condemning its use at gitmo. they are not pushing any agenda on you.

    well that is your opinion, isn't it? in MY opinion, when ed uses his platform at the spectrum to talk about this next week, that would be pushing his agenda on me.[/quote]



    well it is his platform isn't it? you are in the audience so you are gonna have to just deal with it. build a bridge and get over it and do not let it ruin your experience at the show.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    please quote properly.

    thank you.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,799
    The Jeagler wrote:
    please quote properly.

    thank you.
    ummm ok governor...

    is that better?

    are you going to address the point or not?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    please quote properly.

    thank you.
    ummm ok governor...

    is that better?

    are you going to address the point or not?


    i need you to clean up your previous post first, guy. it is really not too difficult to quote around here...

    have a good night.

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,799
    The Jeagler wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    please quote properly.

    thank you.
    ummm ok governor...

    is that better?

    are you going to address the point or not?


    i need you to clean up your previous post first, guy. it is really not too difficult to quote around here...

    have a good night.

    i love you.
    i need you to contribute to the initial point of the thread. apparently you have nothing to add other than the well thought out response of :roll:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."

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