Did Pearl Jam Sell-out?

RiotAct10

you're also about 3 months late with this post. The first time any part of The Fixer was heard by the public, was during the MLB All-Star game, also on Fox.

LOV2ROCK

Hey at least they dont fuck all their intern's

RiotAct10

LOV2ROCK wrote:

Hey at least they dont fuck all their intern's

who said they don't?

stickman

I was just psyched to sit down and watch my favorite sports team, and then be treated to a little "Fixer", I for one liked it! :P

Cosmo

RY wrote:

Most may ignore it, but last night for the opening credits of the Yankee/Angels game Pearl Jam was featured opening the game. Normally this does not faze me; however, it was on FOX. In essence, Pearl Jam sponsored both baseball (which I am fine with) and the FOX network.

So I think they finally sold-out.

What do you all think?

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Yes.
Quit buying therir stuff, quit going to their shows... and please... go away so the rest of us Sell-Outs can enjoy the show.

Cosmo

captainwisejam wrote:

Sale-out, what is that? Are Pearl Jam in the Navy now, did I miss something?

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Stone sails see sells at the she sure.

bradbury14

Yaaaaaaaaaaa.... what everyone else said..... and I Love Fox/Foxnews. They're the only ones not drinking the Obama Cool Aid. The others are just efin cheerleaders

GiventoFall

Yeah Pearl Jam are sell outs. They sell out every show they play

dimitrispearljam

captainwisejam wrote:

Sale-out, what is that? Are Pearl Jam in the Navy now, did I miss something?

HollisBrown

GiventoFall wrote:

Yeah Pearl Jam are sell outs. They sell out every show they play

Except in the south, no?

cajunkiwi

bradbury14 wrote:

Yaaaaaaaaaaa.... what everyone else said..... and I Love Fox/Foxnews. They're the only ones not drinking the Obama Cool Aid. The others are just efin cheerleaders

Fox/Fox News have no room for any more Kool Aid - their stomachs are full after eight years of slurping the Bush Kool-Aid

Jeanwah

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I don't think this makes them sell-outs at all.

Here are some things that I think might make them sell-outs.

- Ten and Backspacer being downloadable albums on guitar hero
- Big Verizon text message screens at concerts last year
- The fact that they charge more than Metallica for concert tickets

"This was a while back, but just to see that the Spin Doctors had their tour sponsored by Levi's or something... I don't know anything about that band, I've never listened to their music. This was the same time we were doing the Ticketmaster stuff, and I thought, what the hell are they doing? Why would anybody want to do that? Sure, right now it's the odd band out there that does that, but I just don't want there to be a day when every band is sponsored. Hopefully in 50 years, when I check back in on society after I've left to go sleep under a tree, I won't wake up and see that it's changed like that." - Eddie Vedder 1994

"Back when we were on tour last spring,we asked everybody to take a cut (in profits) - we were taking a cut, and we said if we're gonna work with you, you have to do the same, because we're not going to take as much money from our fans as everyone would like. Ticketmaster didn't want to take a cut. We felt the service charge they were asking for was disproportionate to the ticket price we were offering. If you have a $55 Rolling Stones ticket and there's a $3-6 service charge, okay. But ours was an $18.50 ticket, and now all of a sudden it's a $24 ticket. That's not right. I just want people to be able to see our shows. It's extremely important that it's available to everyone, that if they'd like to attend, they'd be able to. Also, when you start having $50 tickets, all of a sudden you're changing your audience. And that's a frightening thought, playing only to people that can afford a $50 ticket." Eddie Vedder 1994

I wonder if EV wished he never said these things...seeing that he's totally contradicting himself now.

Ledbetterman10

Jeanwah wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I don't think this makes them sell-outs at all.

Here are some things that I think might make them sell-outs.

- Ten and Backspacer being downloadable albums on guitar hero
- Big Verizon text message screens at concerts last year
- The fact that they charge more than Metallica for concert tickets

"This was a while back, but just to see that the Spin Doctors had their tour sponsored by Levi's or something... I don't know anything about that band, I've never listened to their music. This was the same time we were doing the Ticketmaster stuff, and I thought, what the hell are they doing? Why would anybody want to do that? Sure, right now it's the odd band out there that does that, but I just don't want there to be a day when every band is sponsored. Hopefully in 50 years, when I check back in on society after I've left to go sleep under a tree, I won't wake up and see that it's changed like that." - Eddie Vedder 1994

"Back when we were on tour last spring,we asked everybody to take a cut (in profits) - we were taking a cut, and we said if we're gonna work with you, you have to do the same, because we're not going to take as much money from our fans as everyone would like. Ticketmaster didn't want to take a cut. We felt the service charge they were asking for was disproportionate to the ticket price we were offering. If you have a $55 Rolling Stones ticket and there's a $3-6 service charge, okay. But ours was an $18.50 ticket, and now all of a sudden it's a $24 ticket. That's not right. I just want people to be able to see our shows. It's extremely important that it's available to everyone, that if they'd like to attend, they'd be able to. Also, when you start having $50 tickets, all of a sudden you're changing your audience. And that's a frightening thought, playing only to people that can afford a $50 ticket." Eddie Vedder 1994

I wonder if EV wished he never said these things...seeing that he's totally contradicting himself now.

The quote about the $50 tickets sounds so ridiculous in retrospect. Don't get me wrong, when I walk out of these Philly shows, I'll have been money well spent. But I just don't know where they get off charging what they do when bands of comparable stature and longevity (Radiohead, Green Day) charge in the $50 range. And it's really stupid that they charge the same amount for the last row as they do for the first row. What the fuck is that all about? Every other concert I've ever been to have different prices for different levels.

All I know is that Metallica charges like $65 and Pearl Jam is not bigger than Metallica.

Jeanwah

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

The quote about the $50 tickets sounds so ridiculous in retrospect. Don't get me wrong, when I walk out of these Philly shows, I'll have been money well spent. But I just don't know where they get off charging what they do when bands of comparable stature and longevity (Radiohead, Green Day) charge in the $50 range. And it's really stupid that they charge the same amount for the last row as they do for the first row. What the fuck is that all about? Every other concert I've ever been to have different prices for different levels.

All I know is that Metallica charges like $65 and Pearl Jam is not bigger than Metallica.

I'm just guessing here, but I'm assuming that PJ decided not to do price tiers because, originally, they wanted ticket prices to be cheap. Cheap up front, cheap in the back. But now that it's gotten to the point that the price of the ticket is more expensive than inexpensive, the price we're paying is reasonable for those up front, but really isn't reasonable for the guy in the nosebleeds. I'm also going to play the devil's advocate and say that perhaps because PJ plays so few shows, they can charge more, whereas Green Day and Radiohead play double or triple the dates and charge less. Still, it doesn't make it easy for the fan. Not with what Ed had said in the quotes I posted. There's many of us who cannot afford PJ's steep prices. You just wouldn't know it from reading posts on here.

GiventoFall

gfraser wrote:

i dont think the term sold out is applicable these days. i think it comes down to the band being money hungry, and why shouldnt they be? they are cashing in after all those years of turning it away, they have families to worry about. i say go for it!

I love this kinda reasoning thats used all the time on this message board, they have families to worry about now. Im pretty sure the bands made enough money to where they can provide three meals a day for their children. Maybe a new pair of shoes or a bookbag every couple years. Hell, maybe with the ten million they made off of Ten they can afford to put their kids through community college one day. Honestly, from what I read it seems Eddie Vedder and the others are more worried about making sure thier kids don't grow up spoiled and bratty.

gfraser

GiventoFall wrote:

gfraser wrote:

i dont think the term sold out is applicable these days. i think it comes down to the band being money hungry, and why shouldnt they be? they are cashing in after all those years of turning it away, they have families to worry about. i say go for it!

I love this kinda reasoning thats used all the time on this message board, they have families to worry about now. Im pretty sure the bands made enough money to where they can provide three meals a day for their children. Maybe a new pair of shoes or a bookbag every couple years. Hell, maybe with the ten million they made off of Ten they can afford to put their kids through community college one day. Honestly, from what I read it seems Eddie Vedder and the others are more worried about making sure thier kids don't grow up spoiled and bratty.

i see where your coming from but do you ever think that the members of the band, or anyone for that matter, want the best for themselves and their families? its not about having three meals a day or a new pair of shoes/backpack. if you could have the best of everything, foods, say prime ribs or lobster or the best organically grown fruits and veggies, you name it, and could also have a personal dietician to help you pick out and prepair all your foods, wouldnt you want that? clothing, if you could have tennis shoes for tennis and hikers for hiking, again why wouldnt you? what? one pair of shoes will do it all? education, why wouldnt you want to send your children to the best schools in the country? maybe your child decides he/she wants to be a lawyer or a dr, i think you would be happy if you could pay their way out of pocket no questions asked. health care, if you lived in a country with private healthcare, wouldnt you be happy you and your family could see the best doctors money can buy?

it has nothig to do with being snotty or spoiled, its about providing the best. why would you limit yourself or better question, why should you?

Gary Carter

Jeanwah wrote:

There's many of us who cannot afford PJ's steep prices. You just wouldn't know it from reading posts on here.

i am one of those people. also i don't see the need as to why people see them 10 times a tour or what not. you know its gonna be the same setlist setup everynight with different songs

4-6 rocking songs
3-4 slow songs
3-5 rocking songs
end of 1st set
encore 1-mix of both slow and rocking songs
encore 2- same as 1st encore with ylb as the closer

dustinpardue

I doubt the band huddled in a room and decided to sell a song to Fox. When you hear the songs somewhere, I am guessing that is Target spending money to make money.
Shit, I wish Target would promote my music

SOLAT319

captainwisejam wrote:

Sale-out, what is that? Are Pearl Jam in the Navy now, did I miss something?

This is even funnier than the original post
Sail (!)? Sale(!) get it?

Gary Carter

yoke wrote:

the band sold out as soon as they signed with Epic

+1



hell even the hippies of the 60's eventually sold out