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Anyone having trouble finding work at the moment,im in the construction trade and was layed off work along with 65 others 4 months ago when the company i worked for went bust, and ive only found a few days work here and there since, hope this recession ends soon, anyone else having trouble? :(
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    Partisan wrote:
    Anyone having trouble finding work at the moment,im in the construction trade and was layed off work along with 65 others 4 months ago when the company i worked for went bust, and ive only found a few days work here and there since, hope this recession ends soon, anyone else having trouble? :(


    I'm in the construction trade as well so I know how you feel. Fortunately I am working right now but I was laid off for 6 weeks earlier this year and wasn't sure how long I was going to be out. My company has been laying off people for 5 weeks straight. We had about 40 people working before and now we are down to about 15. I'm sure I will be looking for a job in the coming weeks. Sorry to hear you are in between jobs. I hope you get some steady work very soon.
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  • Beck..Beck.. Posts: 535
    Partisan wrote:
    Anyone having trouble finding work at the moment,im in the construction trade and was layed off work along with 65 others 4 months ago when the company i worked for went bust, and ive only found a few days work here and there since, hope this recession ends soon, anyone else having trouble? :(


    I'm in the construction trade as well so I know how you feel. Fortunately I am working right now but I was laid off for 6 weeks earlier this year and wasn't sure how long I was going to be out. My company has been laying off people for 5 weeks straight. We had about 40 people working before and now we are down to about 15. I'm sure I will be looking for a job in the coming weeks. Sorry to hear you are in between jobs. I hope you get some steady work very soon.
    Cheers my friend,hope things work out for you too.
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    My son’s employer called a meeting with the employees last year. They had them vote on wether to lose benefits or lay off a large number of employees. I was very proud they voted to forfeit benefits to having fellow associates lose their jobs. Since then things became worse and everyone was laid off except my son along with his crew of two or three. Though the others eventually got laid off. He and his crew never received their benefits back, and have taken pay cuts. I have tried to get him to go with a larger company but he is dedicated to this company he has been with for five years. I am so proud of his loyalties (which is a very important trait missing in society today). I did try and raise my son, to be the better person, that sacrifice is okay and money is not everything. That said I am so glad I was young when I was raising him. My ignorance helped me raise him so that he has these ethics and morals.
    I believed in my youth that all people possessed these traits, but as I grow older I see reality as it is. There are a vast majority of people that only care for they’re selves and their money.
    I also have a friend that has done dry wall work for around 20 years but can’t find work due to the Mexicans getting the jobs now. (Not being raciest just factual)
    If congress would allocate some of that stimulus money to small business along with tax cuts maybe it would create the jobs Obama promised in his campaign speeches. Instead they create more welfare programs.
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I work in publishing and printing and these industries certainly aren't on the upswing, but rather spiraling downwards with new media out there. I was without a job for 9 months, at first by choice (I left my high stress job that killed my sanity and peace of mind, and was severely burned out). When I left my job, it was 2 months before the recession hit. I know, what a bad time to voluntarily leave a job. But I had my reasons and don't regret it. I'm now employed, only after 7 months of serious job hunting and became a pro at interviewing, which finally led to being hired.

    Every single interview I went to, the employers were SHOCKED at the high number of applicants. Do people who are employed not know how fierce the competition is out there in trying to gain employment? They can't!! Competition for part-time jobs, let alone full-time was unbelievable. I was a "finalist" as they would tell me for many of the positions, but apparently that just meant I got to compete against fewer people begging for the job. I did not get the jobs I truly wanted, but settled for a secure one, for now, anyway. It really got to the point of taking what I could get, because there's so much competition, you never get anywhere by being choosy.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I work in publishing and printing and these industries certainly aren't on the upswing, but rather spiraling downwards with new media out there. I was without a job for 9 months, at first by choice (I left my high stress job that killed my sanity and peace of mind, and was severely burned out). When I left my job, it was 2 months before the recession hit. I know, what a bad time to voluntarily leave a job. But I had my reasons and don't regret it. I'm now employed, only after 7 months of serious job hunting and became a pro at interviewing, which finally led to being hired.

    Every single interview I went to, the employers were SHOCKED at the high number of applicants. Do people who are employed not know how fierce the competition is out there in trying to gain employment? They can't!! Competition for part-time jobs, let alone full-time was unbelievable. I was a "finalist" as they would tell me for many of the positions, but apparently that just meant I got to compete against fewer people begging for the job. I did not get the jobs I truly wanted, but settled for a secure one, for now, anyway. It really got to the point of taking what I could get, because there's so much competition, you never get anywhere by being choosy.

    Most people I know are working 2 to 3 jobs of some sort to make ends met. I'm working 2 even though I work full time in nursing. I still drive for a wealthy family and teach them how to work/use the internet and computers in general, there's just not enough work out there that I won't do to make my ends meet.

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    And I'm always looking for a few good men.

    Send me your resume, and by that I mean "recent pictures of yourself with your shirt off."
  • Beck..Beck.. Posts: 535
    Jasunmark wrote:
    I make porn for a living so no.. not really.

    And I'm always looking for a few good men.

    Send me your resume, and by that I mean "recent pictures of yourself with your shirt off."
    I might just do that :D
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    isn't there any stimulus money going to infrastructure jobs?

    i know a few up here in toronto who are in contracting and they are busy busy ...
  • Beck..Beck.. Posts: 535
    polaris_x wrote:
    isn't there any stimulus money going to infrastructure jobs?

    i know a few up here in toronto who are in contracting and they are busy busy ...
    Not in the UK, contruction trades are on a downward spiral here

    We are close to 3 million unemployed here in the UK, out of the 70 million population, its pretty high.
  • I was unemployed from August until April. I left my job when my father got sick and it took longer then I thought to get a new one.

    All I can say is you have to stay positive. I went to the unemployment groups and meetings. It helped me focus and get past the frustration and anger. I honestly believe that getting my head right was what lead me to my new job.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,344
    unemployed since July

    but Im lucky in that my wife works and I made a decent living when I was working

    paying that health insurance nut is a bitch though

    and no signs of recovery anytime soon, at least in my industry

    starting my own company, but its slow going

    good luck to all
  • StevieGStevieG Ontario Posts: 850
    Worked at the same place(in the chemical industry) for great pay and not bad work for 18 years when they finally decided to shut down in 2005. Found a new job right away and got laid-off in March of 2008, started a new job in June of 2008 and was laid off in January of this year and I am still out of work. I paid my employment insurance premiums for 22 fucking years and never collected a dime until this year. I was told I was eligible for 25 weeks of benefits!! Since I was laid off twice in a years time that's all I was eligible for. My previous 22 years of paying the highest EI premiums count for shit. My benefits have long run out and I can't find any work whatsoever. I am trying to get out of the chemical field but since that is the majority of my work experience I don't even get phone calls for an interview. I have applied for ordinary jobs such as shipping/receiving, building maintenance, warehouse, etc... Thankfully my wife is working and we are able to get by. It's pretty pathetic that I'm still looking for work after 9 months, can't get interviews let alone a fucking job. My wife is a chemist and I've got 23 years experience in the chemical field so we have started our own business making organic soap with all natural ingredients (olive oil, coconut oil, shea butter), so hopefully we can get some additional income through this.
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  • Beck..Beck.. Posts: 535
    Good luck with the business :D
  • StevieGStevieG Ontario Posts: 850
    Partisan wrote:
    Good luck with the business :D

    Thanks very much brother, I hope things take a good turn for you and everyone else on here that is in the same situ.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    StevieG wrote:
    Partisan wrote:
    Good luck with the business :D

    Thanks very much brother, I hope things take a good turn for you and everyone else on here that is in the same situ.

    dude ... you got a website or something ... i'll buy soap from you
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Partisan wrote:
    Anyone having trouble finding work at the moment,im in the construction trade and was layed off work along with 65 others 4 months ago when the company i worked for went bust, and ive only found a few days work here and there since, hope this recession ends soon, anyone else having trouble? :(

    The recession was declared over on Oct. 12.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I work in publishing and printing and these industries certainly aren't on the upswing, but rather spiraling downwards with new media out there. I was without a job for 9 months, at first by choice (I left my high stress job that killed my sanity and peace of mind, and was severely burned out). When I left my job, it was 2 months before the recession hit. I know, what a bad time to voluntarily leave a job. But I had my reasons and don't regret it. I'm now employed, only after 7 months of serious job hunting and became a pro at interviewing, which finally led to being hired.

    Every single interview I went to, the employers were SHOCKED at the high number of applicants. Do people who are employed not know how fierce the competition is out there in trying to gain employment? They can't!! Competition for part-time jobs, let alone full-time was unbelievable. I was a "finalist" as they would tell me for many of the positions, but apparently that just meant I got to compete against fewer people begging for the job. I did not get the jobs I truly wanted, but settled for a secure one, for now, anyway. It really got to the point of taking what I could get, because there's so much competition, you never get anywhere by being choosy.

    I work for a marketing agency and I'll confirm what you said about print. It seems like the work that we're doing for print has dropped off the map. We're basically as busy as we were before, but all of our work is being "published" digitally and on the web.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • StevieGStevieG Ontario Posts: 850
    polaris_x wrote:
    StevieG wrote:
    Partisan wrote:
    Good luck with the business :D

    Thanks very much brother, I hope things take a good turn for you and everyone else on here that is in the same situ.

    dude ... you got a website or something ... i'll buy soap from you

    No website yet, for a product and price list e-mail me at: <!-- e --><a href="mailto:wildolivesoap@rogers.com">wildolivesoap@rogers.com</a><!-- e -->

    Thanks!!!
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    For all those who say they have been or were unemployed for a long period of time, have you considered at least working part-time or full-time at a lesser trade like delivering pizzas or working at Wal-Mart.

    I probably wouldn't be unemployed for more than about 3 weeks before I'd be doing something else that brings in money.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    know1 wrote:
    For all those who say they have been or were unemployed for a long period of time, have you considered at least working part-time or full-time at a lesser trade like delivering pizzas or working at Wal-Mart.

    I probably wouldn't be unemployed for more than about 3 weeks before I'd be doing something else that brings in money.
    i would rather be homeless then work at wallmart.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Commy wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    For all those who say they have been or were unemployed for a long period of time, have you considered at least working part-time or full-time at a lesser trade like delivering pizzas or working at Wal-Mart.

    I probably wouldn't be unemployed for more than about 3 weeks before I'd be doing something else that brings in money.
    i would rather be homeless then work at wallmart.


    I bet if you had a kid, and your kid didn't have food...you'd change your tune.
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Commy wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    For all those who say they have been or were unemployed for a long period of time, have you considered at least working part-time or full-time at a lesser trade like delivering pizzas or working at Wal-Mart.

    I probably wouldn't be unemployed for more than about 3 weeks before I'd be doing something else that brings in money.
    i would rather be homeless then work at wallmart.


    I bet if you had a kid, and your kid didn't have food...you'd change your tune.


    not an issue for me.
  • I'm on my 10th month of unemployment. I graduated from college in '08, had a temp job after, and since then no luck. It doesn't help that my major wasn't exactly a workforce one (it was Greek & Roman history), so I've been applying for IT jobs because I've got a few years of experience as a student worker doing low level tech support. However... most employers that bother to call me comment that I need a certification or education to back it up, but I need the job to get the money... I landed a part time IT job but it doesn't pay much and my boss isn't interested in giving me more hours.

    I wish I had looked harder for permanent work after I graduated instead of taking that temp job, which ended right as unemployment skyrocketed.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    know1 wrote:
    Partisan wrote:
    Anyone having trouble finding work at the moment,im in the construction trade and was layed off work along with 65 others 4 months ago when the company i worked for went bust, and ive only found a few days work here and there since, hope this recession ends soon, anyone else having trouble? :(

    The recession was declared over on Oct. 12.
    that may be the case, but jobs are NOT coming back. got a quick answer for that one?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    High jobless rates could be the new normal
    Industries that previously jump started employment aren’t able to this time

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33384835/ns ... d_economy/


    updated 7:40 p.m. CT, Mon., Oct . 19, 2009
    WASHINGTON - Even with an economic revival, many U.S. jobs lost during the recession may be gone forever and a weak employment market could linger for years.

    That could add up to a "new normal" of higher joblessness and lower standards of living for many Americans, some economists are suggesting.

    The words "it's different this time" are always suspect. But economists and policy makers say the job-creating dynamics of previous recoveries can't be counted on now.

    Here's why:

    The auto and construction industries helped lead the nation out of past recessions. But the carnage among Detroit's automakers and the surplus of new and foreclosed homes and empty commercial properties make it unlikely these two industries will be engines of growth anytime soon.
    The job market is caught in a vicious circle: Without more jobs, U.S. consumers will have a hard time increasing their spending; but without that spending, businesses might see little reason to start hiring.
    Many small and midsize businesses are still struggling to obtain bank loans, impeding their expansion plans and constraining overall economic growth.
    Higher-income households are spending less because of big losses on their homes, retirement plans and other investments. Lower-income households are cutting back because they can't borrow like they once did.
    That the recovery in jobs will be long and drawn out is something on which economists and policy makers can basically agree, even as their proposals for remedies vary widely.

    Retrenching businesses will be slow in hiring back or replacing workers they laid off. Many of the 7.2 million jobs the economy has shed since the recession began in December 2007 may never come back.

    "This Great Recession is an inflection point for the economy in many respects. I think the unemployment rate will be permanently higher, or at least higher for the foreseeable future," said Mark Zandi, chief economist and co-founder of Moody's Economy.com.

    "The collective psyche has changed as a result of what we've been through. And we're going to be different as a result," said Zandi, who formerly advised Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and now is consulted by Democrats in the administration and in Congress,

    Even before the recession, many jobs had vanished or been shipped overseas amid a general decline of U.S. manufacturing. The severest downturn since the Great Depression has accelerated the process.

    Many economists believe the recession reversed course in the recently ended third quarter and they predict modest growth in the nation's gross domestic product over the next few years. Yet the unemployment rate is currently at a 26-year high of 9.8 percent — and likely to top 10 percent soon and stay there a while.

    "Many factors are pushing against a quick recovery," said Heidi Shierholz, an economist at the labor-oriented Economic Policy Institute. "Things will come back. But it's going to take a long time. I think we will likely see elevated unemployment at least until 2014."

    At best, many economists see an economic recovery without a return to moderate unemployment. At worst, they suggest the fragile recovery could lose steam and drag the economy back under for a double-dip recession.

    "We will need to grind out this recovery step by step," President Barack Obama said earlier this month.

    Obama and congressional Democrats are having a hard time agreeing on how to keep the recovery going and help millions of unemployed workers — short of another round of stimulus spending amid rising voter alarm over soaring federal deficits.

    So far, they've been unable to win even a simple three-month extension of unemployment insurance for people in states with jobless rates above 8.5 percent.

    The extension easily passed the House earlier this month but is bogged down in the Senate over disputes over which states would get the funds. Hundreds of thousands of people have already lost their benefits or are about to lose them.

    The White House credits the president's $787 billion stimulus plan passed in February for keeping job losses from becoming even worse. Since Obama took office in January, the economy has lost 3.4 million jobs.

    Republicans argue that the stimulus program has not worked as a job producer and is a waste of tax money. And last week, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce launched a multimillion advertising campaign to celebrate small business entrepreneurs — and to argue that further government intervention will not spur permanent job growth.

    Chamber leaders called for creation of more than 20 million new private-sector jobs over the next decade, saying it's needed to replace jobs lost in the recession and to keep pace with population growth.

    "The government can support a few jobs in the short-run" while free enterprise is the only system that can create 20 million of them, said Thomas Donohue, the chamber president.

    To many economists, such a goal seems unreachable given today's altered economic landscape.

    "It's a new normal that U.S. growth is going to be anemic on average for years. Right now, the prospect is bleak for anything other than a particularly high unemployment rate and a weak jobs-creating machine," said Allen Sinai, president of Decision Economics Inc. He says he doubts that unemployment will dip below 7 percent anytime soon.

    Many economists consider a jobless rate of 4 to 5 percent as reflecting a "full employment" economy, one in which nearly everyone who wants a job has one. After the 2001 recession the rate climbed to 5.8 percent in 2002 and peaked at 6.3 percent in 2003 before easing back to 4.6 percent for 2006 and 2007.

    Will unemployment ever get back to such levels?

    "I wouldn't say never. But I do think it's going to be a long time," said Bruce Bartlett, a former Treasury Department economist and the author of the book "The New American Economy: The Failure of Reaganomics and a New Way Forward."

    "The linkage between growth in the economy and growth in jobs is not what it was. I don't know if it's permanently broken or temporarily broken. But clearly we are not seeing the sort of increase in employment that one would normally expect," said Bartlett.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    know1 wrote:
    For all those who say they have been or were unemployed for a long period of time, have you considered at least working part-time or full-time at a lesser trade like delivering pizzas or working at Wal-Mart.

    I probably wouldn't be unemployed for more than about 3 weeks before I'd be doing something else that brings in money.
    ...
    Easier said than done.
    Where do you think all of the unemployed people are picking up jobs?
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Even a 30 year man with 20+ years of Information Technology skills and education in a gigantic, multi-billion dollar corporation that is in the black is not safe... as long as the upper mangement continually sees all their ground troops as numbers in the operating cost side of the ledger. They see us as 'Cost Savings' opportunities in meeting their goals and being rewarded in bonuses.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Cosmo wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    For all those who say they have been or were unemployed for a long period of time, have you considered at least working part-time or full-time at a lesser trade like delivering pizzas or working at Wal-Mart.

    I probably wouldn't be unemployed for more than about 3 weeks before I'd be doing something else that brings in money.
    ...
    Easier said than done.
    Where do you think all of the unemployed people are picking up jobs?


    I don't know. Notice that I asked if they "considered" working part-time, etc..

    I'm just curious if they tried, not directing them to do anything.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    know1 wrote:
    Partisan wrote:
    Anyone having trouble finding work at the moment,im in the construction trade and was layed off work along with 65 others 4 months ago when the company i worked for went bust, and ive only found a few days work here and there since, hope this recession ends soon, anyone else having trouble? :(

    The recession was declared over on Oct. 12.
    that may be the case, but jobs are NOT coming back. got a quick answer for that one?

    My "quick answer" had a couple of points that I may not have conveyed.

    1. Pointing out how "experts" say that the recession is over even though many people aren't feeling that.

    2. Trying to demonstrate that shrugging off circumstances by attributing them to a bad economy is a dangerous practice. I think when the economy comes back, a lot of the jobs that were there before will be gone. At that point, you can't blame the economy anymore.

    I just think the "recession" or "bad economy" is being made a scape goat and a rationalization for other problems.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    I'm on my 10th month of unemployment. I graduated from college in '08, had a temp job after, and since then no luck. It doesn't help that my major wasn't exactly a workforce one (it was Greek & Roman history), so I've been applying for IT jobs because I've got a few years of experience as a student worker doing low level tech support. However... most employers that bother to call me comment that I need a certification or education to back it up, but I need the job to get the money... I landed a part time IT job but it doesn't pay much and my boss isn't interested in giving me more hours.

    I wish I had looked harder for permanent work after I graduated instead of taking that temp job, which ended right as unemployment skyrocketed.


    If you could do anything, with the degree you got, what would be the job you would want?
    hippiemom = goodness
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