There's so much vinyl!!!!!!!!!!

tremors

i shit and i stink wrote:

tremors wrote:

I got the Smiths Queen is Dead, Strangeways, Louder than Bombs and Meat is Murder, all on original rough trade label, and all in absolute mint condition from there, paid about a fiver for each one. Very good buy!

Re-issue ! Re-package ! Re-package !
Re-evaluate the songs
Double-pack with a photograph
Extra Track (and a tacky badge)

That's what you need, forget this old vinyl nonsense!

That is a great song. One of my favourite of his. Only makes sense when being played on the original vinyl tho

tremors

i shit and i stink wrote:

tremors wrote:

I got the Smiths Queen is Dead, Strangeways, Louder than Bombs and Meat is Murder, all on original rough trade label, and all in absolute mint condition from there, paid about a fiver for each one. Very good buy!

Re-issue ! Re-package ! Re-package !
Re-evaluate the songs
Double-pack with a photograph
Extra Track (and a tacky badge)

That's what you need, forget this old vinyl nonsense!

You've got me started on a massive Smiths vinyl fest This could last a while! I would have to say that Morrissey is the best 'English' lyricist, and by quite a margin. I say English because he is so quintessentially English, and because for my money Dylan is unsurpassable on that front. Morrissey - the second greatest lyricist of all time! I'm feeling bold - but like Dylan, the writing is so painfully good that it makes you smile even when singing about abject misery

Newch91

tremors wrote:

i shit and i stink wrote:

tremors wrote:

I got the Smiths Queen is Dead, Strangeways, Louder than Bombs and Meat is Murder, all on original rough trade label, and all in absolute mint condition from there, paid about a fiver for each one. Very good buy!

Re-issue ! Re-package ! Re-package !
Re-evaluate the songs
Double-pack with a photograph
Extra Track (and a tacky badge)

That's what you need, forget this old vinyl nonsense!

You've got me started on a massive Smiths vinyl fest This could last a while! I would have to say that Morrissey is the best 'English' lyricist, and by quite a margin. I say English because he is so quintessentially English, and because for my money Dylan is unsurpassable on that front. Morrissey - the second greatest lyricist of all time! I'm feeling bold - but like Dylan, the writing is so painfully good that it makes you smile even when singing about abject misery

Tremors...I'm going to have to disagree with you. Like you, I agree that Dylan is the greatest lyricist of all time, but John Lennon is the second greatest. No one before or after has written lyrics like Lennon did where he stood naked and bared all to everyone (no pun).

i shit and i stink

"Newch wrote:

91Tremors...I'm going to have to disagree with you. Like you, I agree that Dylan is the greatest lyricist of all time, but John Lennon is the second greatest. No one before or after has written lyrics like Lennon did where he stood naked and bared all to everyone (no pun).

I dunno, it's a close call but I'll throw my had in the ring for Morrissey. I'll pick one album and I'm sure it'll be full of genius:

"I didn't realise you wrote poetry, I didn't realise you wrote such bloody awful poetry"

"I broke into the palace with a sponge and rusty spanner, she said "I know you and you cannot sing", I said "That's nothing you should hear me play piano"

"some girls are bigger than others, some girls' mothers are bigger than other girls' mothers"

...are just piss funny whilst other lyrics are heartbreaking but simple...

"If a double decker bus, crashes into us, to die by your side, the pleasure and the privelege is mine"

"That's why you're on your own tonight
With your triumphs and your charms
While they're in each other's arms..."
It's so easy to laugh
It's so easy to hate
It takes guts to be gentle and kind
Over, over
Not tonight, my love
Love is Natural and Real
But not for such as you and I, my love
Oh Mother, I can feel the soil falling over my head

Karley

i shit and i stink wrote:

I'm constantly disappointed by the vinyl stores I've visited in the UK. I hear about these treasure troves but it's all Walker Brothers albums and Band Aid singles. The best vinyl shopping I think I've done was a long time ago in the hip end of Queen's St in Bristol when I was at uni. However, with my parents living in the midlands I was still made up to find a store open in our village, no matter how small it is.

The two best record stores ever are in Manchester: Vinyl Exchange and KingBee Records. If you're into Electronic Music you HAVE to visit Vinyl Exchange.

tremors

Just had a nice little surprise haul from my local Oxfam. I keep my eye on what they have, so notice when new stuff comes in. Spotted immediately today that there was someone's new collection just come in, and almost had a heart attack when I saw some of em! Clearly someone who likes their music, doesn't know how to take care of sleeves, but the records were all immaculate. Dirt cheap too largely.

I picked up

Bob Marley - Survival - my favourite of his, never owned it on vinyl. Nice thick pressing.
Bob Dylan, Hard Rain - Looks mint, early thick pressing
Pink Floyd - The Wall. I already own one scratched copy of this, and one warped one - so hopefully this will be the one!
The Jam - In The City - sleeve completely messed up, record thick early pressing, looks immaculate
Lennon / Ono - Double Fantasy. Great condition early pressing, sleeve perfect, record sparkling

This haul confirms my record buying strategy - let them come to you!!

i shit and i stink

Karley wrote:

i shit and i stink wrote:

I'm constantly disappointed by the vinyl stores I've visited in the UK. I hear about these treasure troves but it's all Walker Brothers albums and Band Aid singles. The best vinyl shopping I think I've done was a long time ago in the hip end of Queen's St in Bristol when I was at uni. However, with my parents living in the midlands I was still made up to find a store open in our village, no matter how small it is.

The two best record stores ever are in Manchester: Vinyl Exchange and KingBee Records. If you're into Electronic Music you HAVE to visit Vinyl Exchange.

EDIT: I meant to say 'charity stores'!

tremors

i shit and i stink wrote:

I dunno, it's a close call but I'll throw my had in the ring for Morrissey. I'll pick one album and I'm sure it'll be full of genius:

"I didn't realise you wrote poetry, I didn't realise you wrote such bloody awful poetry"

"I broke into the palace with a sponge and rusty spanner, she said "I know you and you cannot sing", I said "That's nothing you should hear me play piano"

"some girls are bigger than others, some girls' mothers are bigger than other girls' mothers"

...are just piss funny whilst other lyrics are heartbreaking but simple...

"If a double decker bus, crashes into us, to die by your side, the pleasure and the privelege is mine"

"That's why you're on your own tonight
With your triumphs and your charms
While they're in each other's arms..."
It's so easy to laugh
It's so easy to hate
It takes guts to be gentle and kind
Over, over
Not tonight, my love
Love is Natural and Real
But not for such as you and I, my love
Oh Mother, I can feel the soil falling over my head

Yeah Morrisey is a complete master of the tragic and the comic going hand in hand. To be able to evoke utter misery and be funny about it at the same time - that is some great great talent! True I would find it hard to choose between Lennon's songwriting overall, but Mozza I think is one of the few songwriters other than Dylan whose words stand up there with the best literary writing of any age. Lennon and McCartney you can't beat for songs to sing, and to love. But for the sheer exhileration of hearing someone sing the words - Dylan and Morrissey for me!! This one stood out for me today, such a painfully witty description of two 'melancholics'




A dreaded sunny day
So I meet you at the cemetery gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side

A dreaded sunny day
So I meet you at the cemetery gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
While Wilde is on mine

So we go inside and we gravely read the stones
All those people all those lives
Where are they now?
With the loves and hates
And passions just like mine
They were born
And then they lived and then they died
Seems so unfair
And I want to cry

You say: "ere thrice the sun done salutation to the dawn"
And you claim these words as your own
But I've read well, and I've heard them said
A hundred times, maybe less, maybe more

If you must write prose and poems
The words you use should be your own
Don't plagiarise or take "on loans"
There's always someone, somewhere
With a big nose, who knows
And who trips you up and laughs
When you fall
Who'll trip you up and laugh
When you fall

You say: "ere long done do does did"
Words which could only be your own
And then you then produce the text
From whence was ripped some dizzy whore, 1804

A dreaded sunny day
So let's go where we're happy
And I meet you at the cemetery gates
Oh Keats and Yeats are on your side

A dreaded sunny day
So let's go where we're wanted
And I meet you at the cemetery gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
But you lose because Wilde is on mine!!

tremors

i shit and i stink wrote:

Karley wrote:

i shit and i stink wrote:

I'm constantly disappointed by the vinyl stores I've visited in the UK. I hear about these treasure troves but it's all Walker Brothers albums and Band Aid singles. The best vinyl shopping I think I've done was a long time ago in the hip end of Queen's St in Bristol when I was at uni. However, with my parents living in the midlands I was still made up to find a store open in our village, no matter how small it is.

The two best record stores ever are in Manchester: Vinyl Exchange and KingBee Records. If you're into Electronic Music you HAVE to visit Vinyl Exchange.

EDIT: I meant to say 'charity stores'!

Yeah I thought that's what you meant. I like charity record shopping, keeps me out of trouble. But I've settled on the Oxfams as where the real gold lives! And there are loads of em!

i shit and i stink

Newch91 wrote:

Tremors...I'm going to have to disagree with you. Like you, I agree that Dylan is the greatest lyricist of all time, but John Lennon is the second greatest. No one before or after has written lyrics like Lennon did where he stood naked and bared all to everyone (no pun).

By the way, which Lennon album was the one he made just after attending primal scream therapy?

tremors

i shit and i stink wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Tremors...I'm going to have to disagree with you. Like you, I agree that Dylan is the greatest lyricist of all time, but John Lennon is the second greatest. No one before or after has written lyrics like Lennon did where he stood naked and bared all to everyone (no pun).

By the way, which Lennon album was the one he made just after attending primal scream therapy?

Would that be John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band? Sounds like it could that one be from some of the songs, some of my favourites of his

Mother
Working Class Hero
Isolation
God

tremors

tremors wrote:

i shit and i stink wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Tremors...I'm going to have to disagree with you. Like you, I agree that Dylan is the greatest lyricist of all time, but John Lennon is the second greatest. No one before or after has written lyrics like Lennon did where he stood naked and bared all to everyone (no pun).

By the way, which Lennon album was the one he made just after attending primal scream therapy?

Would that be John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band? Sounds like it could that one be from some of the songs, some of my favourites of his

Mother
Working Class Hero
Isolation
God

"Plastic Ono Band was nick-named "the Primal Album," as John had composed most of it during the course of four months at Arthur Janov's Primal Institute in Los Angeles. Lennon was initiated into Dr. Janov's radical therapy by the latter's The Primal Scream, which had been sent to him at the author's request. After undergoing three weeks of intensive therapy with Dr. Janov in England, the Lennons agreed to come to California in April 1970 for the full treatment, in which patients relive key experiences that trigger blood-curdling Primal Screams which, the psychologist contends, can exorcize the root causes of all their neuroses."

Newch91

Tremors answered it. I love that album. I need to find that one on vinyl.

tremors

Newch91 wrote:

Tremors answered it. I love that album. I need to find that one on vinyl.

Thanks God we didn't get into an argument of Lennon vs Morrissey! That is not something I would ever want to do

Yes, I would like to hear that album on my record player!

Newch91

tremors wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Tremors answered it. I love that album. I need to find that one on vinyl.

Thanks God we didn't get into an argument of Lennon vs Morrissey! That is not something I would ever want to do

Yes, I would like to hear that album on my record player!

Haha that argument would be through PMs. I will add this: Across the Universe has some of the greatest lyrics ever.

Too bad Amazon didn't have POB available.

tremors

Newch91 wrote:

tremors wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Tremors answered it. I love that album. I need to find that one on vinyl.

Thanks God we didn't get into an argument of Lennon vs Morrissey! That is not something I would ever want to do

Yes, I would like to hear that album on my record player!

Haha that argument would be through PMs. I will add this: Across the Universe has some of the greatest lyrics ever.

Too bad Amazon didn't have POB available.

I love the song! For me there are some songs where I like the words for how they are in the song - this is hard for me to describe..... Like I love the Beatles songs to listen to, with the words, the doors too, loads of good bands. Then there are a few lyricists where the words are so good I get off on them in their own way within the music - Dylan, Morrissey, Elvis Costello come to mind in this category. Pearl Jam for me are kind of in a category of their own! Special!

i shit and i stink

tremors wrote:

Yeah Morrisey is one of the only people to speak of utter misery and be funny about it at the same time - that is some great great talent!

You say: "ere thrice the sun done salutation to the dawn"
And you claim these words as your own
But I've read well, and I've heard them said
A hundred times, maybe less, maybe more

I completely agree with the part about Mozza being able to mix the tragic and comic, it is a rare skill. I've been thinking about it and composed this short poem about what his words say to me:

"We look before and after
And pine for what is not
Our sincerest laughter, with some pain is fraught;
Our sweetest songs are those that tell of saddest thought."

I think it's rather good, if I do say so myself

tremors

i shit and i stink wrote:

tremors wrote:

Yeah Morrisey is one of the only people to speak of utter misery and be funny about it at the same time - that is some great great talent!

You say: "ere thrice the sun done salutation to the dawn"
And you claim these words as your own
But I've read well, and I've heard them said
A hundred times, maybe less, maybe more

I completely agree with the part about Mozza being able to mix the tragic and comic, it is a rare skill. I've been thinking about it and composed this short poem about what his words say to me:

"We look before and after
And pine for what is not
Our sincerest laughter, with some pain is fraught;
Our sweetest songs are those that tell of saddest thought."

I think it's rather good, if I do say so myself

Fucking hell! That is good. I think that is probably the first poem we've had in this thread (unless I wrote one in here sometime 12 months ago ). It's certainly the best one!!

edit. unless you're plagiarising god damn you!

i shit and i stink

tremors wrote:

Fucking hell! That is good. I think that is probably the first poem we've had in this thread (unless I wrote one in here sometime 12 months ago ). It's certainly the best one!!

And then i produce the text from where it was written... some old idealist, 1875...

It's Shelley "To A Skylark"

tremors

i shit and i stink wrote:

tremors wrote:

Fucking hell! That is good. I think that is probably the first poem we've had in this thread (unless I wrote one in here sometime 12 months ago ). It's certainly the best one!!

And then i produce the text from where it was written... some old idealist, 1875...

It's Shelley "To A Skylark"

Hahaha - I like your style. I should think of some witty quip or riposte or something, but I am halfway through spinning the wall and need to get back to it. 'Mother' is calling!