Not that there is any proof to this... but I think that Iran would launch the nukes... So "No" MAD would with work in the middle east...
eh. the saying power corrupts comes from the idea that any institution invairaibly subscribes to the idea that it must protect itself first -even putting that idea above all others. its why even a noble intentioned group like PETA has now become more worried about its own relevancy than saving animals. power corrupts- in every case.
and a nuke launched from Iran towards Israel would mean the complete destruction of Iran a short time later. so the nature of power would prevent this from happening....even IF the suicide bombing style of Islam were to somehow take power in Iran.
A more likely scenario- if Iran had few nukes lying around, would be for Israel to launch first, as it is ruled by fear, and it has already shown it doesn't give a fuck about civilians. and probably has the technology to counter a few nukes in the air.
i don't see either scenario playing out. they'll turn iran into a desert and call it peace, long before iran gets a nuke.
I don't know if this is true as it has been declared a lie by Iran and Israel but if true it would be a small window into what really goes on behind the scenes.
A representative of Israel's Atomic Energy Commission held several meetings with an Iranian official to discuss nuclear issues in the region, the commission's spokeswoman said on Thursday.
The spokeswoman declined to give details of the meetings, but the Haaretz daily said the officials discussed the chances of declaring the Middle East a nuclear-free zone.
"There were several meetings between a representative of our commission and an Iranian official in a regional context," spokeswoman Yael Doron told Agence France Presse.
"These meetings were held behind closed doors," she said, adding that they were organized by Australia.
She declined to give further details of the talks, the first between the two archfoes to be officially disclosed since the shah of Iran was deposed in 1979.
The newspaper said Meirav Zafary-Odiz, director of policy and arms control for the Israeli nuclear agency, and Ali Asghar Soltanieh, Iran's delegate to the International Atomic Energy Agency, met several times in Cairo at the end of September.
However, Iran's atomic energy organization denied that Iranian and Israeli experts held secret talks, state television's website reported.
"This lie is a kind of psychological operation designed to affect the constant success of Iran's dynamic diplomacy in the Geneva and Vienna meetings," the organization's spokesman, Ali Shirzadian, was quoted as saying.
Israel, the sole if undeclared nuclear-armed state in the Middle East, has never ruled out a resort to military action to stop Iran's nuclear drive which the West suspects is aimed at making nuclear weapons but Tehran insists is only for peaceful ends.(AFP)
I don't know if this is true as it has been declared a lie by Iran and Israel but if true it would be a small window into what really goes on behind the scenes.
A representative of Israel's Atomic Energy Commission held several meetings with an Iranian official to discuss nuclear issues in the region, the commission's spokeswoman said on Thursday.
The spokeswoman declined to give details of the meetings, but the Haaretz daily said the officials discussed the chances of declaring the Middle East a nuclear-free zone.
"There were several meetings between a representative of our commission and an Iranian official in a regional context," spokeswoman Yael Doron told Agence France Presse.
"These meetings were held behind closed doors," she said, adding that they were organized by Australia.
She declined to give further details of the talks, the first between the two archfoes to be officially disclosed since the shah of Iran was deposed in 1979.
The newspaper said Meirav Zafary-Odiz, director of policy and arms control for the Israeli nuclear agency, and Ali Asghar Soltanieh, Iran's delegate to the International Atomic Energy Agency, met several times in Cairo at the end of September.
However, Iran's atomic energy organization denied that Iranian and Israeli experts held secret talks, state television's website reported.
"This lie is a kind of psychological operation designed to affect the constant success of Iran's dynamic diplomacy in the Geneva and Vienna meetings," the organization's spokesman, Ali Shirzadian, was quoted as saying.
Israel, the sole if undeclared nuclear-armed state in the Middle East, has never ruled out a resort to military action to stop Iran's nuclear drive which the West suspects is aimed at making nuclear weapons but Tehran insists is only for peaceful ends.(AFP)
I doubt very much that Israel would relinquish it's nuclear arsenal. Why would they? How would they benefit from disarmament? And what could Iran offer in return?
Israel is an expansionist militaristic nation, not a nation interested in peace with it's neighbours.
I doubt very much that Israel would relinquish it's nuclear arsenal. Why would they? How would they benefit from disarmament? And what could Iran offer in return?
Israel is an expansionist militaristic nation, not a nation interested in peace with it's neighbours.
I agree but what I am more interested in is whether or not they actually met. I mean if they spew all this hatred against each other in public then meet in private it really gives you a good idea how "serious" the hatred they spew is. In reality, there is a chance it could be all for show. It reminds me of Fisk back in the 80-90's uncovering secret meetings between israel and Hamas.
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eh. the saying power corrupts comes from the idea that any institution invairaibly subscribes to the idea that it must protect itself first -even putting that idea above all others. its why even a noble intentioned group like PETA has now become more worried about its own relevancy than saving animals. power corrupts- in every case.
and a nuke launched from Iran towards Israel would mean the complete destruction of Iran a short time later. so the nature of power would prevent this from happening....even IF the suicide bombing style of Islam were to somehow take power in Iran.
A more likely scenario- if Iran had few nukes lying around, would be for Israel to launch first, as it is ruled by fear, and it has already shown it doesn't give a fuck about civilians. and probably has the technology to counter a few nukes in the air.
i don't see either scenario playing out. they'll turn iran into a desert and call it peace, long before iran gets a nuke.
Not that there is any proof to this... but I am the King of Swaziland.
Mate I told you that in confidence..
yuo know that makes you my husband... well one of them anyway. ive been ruling swaziland for a few years now
and i do have proof.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Great, I've got some shirts that need ironing. Also, whilst you're up, put the kettle on and make me a cup of coffee.
clearly youre not taking your medication.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsD ... 5700291E4E
Spokeswoman: Israeli, Iranian Officials Held Talks on Nukes
A representative of Israel's Atomic Energy Commission held several meetings with an Iranian official to discuss nuclear issues in the region, the commission's spokeswoman said on Thursday.
The spokeswoman declined to give details of the meetings, but the Haaretz daily said the officials discussed the chances of declaring the Middle East a nuclear-free zone.
"There were several meetings between a representative of our commission and an Iranian official in a regional context," spokeswoman Yael Doron told Agence France Presse.
"These meetings were held behind closed doors," she said, adding that they were organized by Australia.
She declined to give further details of the talks, the first between the two archfoes to be officially disclosed since the shah of Iran was deposed in 1979.
The newspaper said Meirav Zafary-Odiz, director of policy and arms control for the Israeli nuclear agency, and Ali Asghar Soltanieh, Iran's delegate to the International Atomic Energy Agency, met several times in Cairo at the end of September.
However, Iran's atomic energy organization denied that Iranian and Israeli experts held secret talks, state television's website reported.
"This lie is a kind of psychological operation designed to affect the constant success of Iran's dynamic diplomacy in the Geneva and Vienna meetings," the organization's spokesman, Ali Shirzadian, was quoted as saying.
Israel, the sole if undeclared nuclear-armed state in the Middle East, has never ruled out a resort to military action to stop Iran's nuclear drive which the West suspects is aimed at making nuclear weapons but Tehran insists is only for peaceful ends.(AFP)
I doubt very much that Israel would relinquish it's nuclear arsenal. Why would they? How would they benefit from disarmament? And what could Iran offer in return?
Israel is an expansionist militaristic nation, not a nation interested in peace with it's neighbours.
I agree but what I am more interested in is whether or not they actually met. I mean if they spew all this hatred against each other in public then meet in private it really gives you a good idea how "serious" the hatred they spew is. In reality, there is a chance it could be all for show. It reminds me of Fisk back in the 80-90's uncovering secret meetings between israel and Hamas.