parents, milk is bad
Nothingman54
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all my life i was told milk is good, drink lots of milk its good for your bones and teeth. WRONG! my 2 year old now has 4 cavities because of milk. my wife and i never heard that milk causes cavities. now its gonna cost 2,000 dollars to put caps on 2 of them and fillings for the other 2. they have to put him to sleep because he wont stay still, kicks and screams. 2000 dollars we have to spend. his teeth will fall out in 3 years, what a waste. has this happen to body else?
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Granted I'm not a dentist, but that just seems silly to me.
Also how do they know it was milk that caused it?
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just normal milk. nobody i talk to has ever head of it. i guess just the dentist know. dirty little secret they dont share with anybody else.
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"Oh, bones...so...brittle, but I drink plenty of .... MALK?"
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her teeth have no decay whatsoever...
According to a recent research conducted in the US, tooth decay can be reduced in children if they are encouraged to drink milk. So, can milk help with tooth decay? Yes, as per this research. The results of this research were published in the Journal of the American Dental Association and it said that children who drank more soft drinks in comparison to milk and pure fruit juice were at higher risk of tooth decay.
The research studies 369 children aged between 3 and 5 years at the beginning of the study and then again after two years. It was found that children who drank less soft drink at the beginning of the study but ended up increasing their consumption as they grew older were 1.75 times more likely to have tooth decay compared to children who drank a lot of milk and fresh fruit juice.
This results of the new research are similar to other studies previously conducted in the UK and the US which also concurred that children who had high intake of milk ended up with fewer cavities.
The reason for this astonishing result is very simple. Milk contains proteins, calcium and phosphorus. These help protect the teeth by forming a protective layer over the enamel of the teeth. And, high levels of calcium and phosphorus prevent demineralization of the tooth enamel which occurs when children consume acidic foods and drinks.
is his teeth brushed after or before the milk bottle is given?
Milk has lots of sugar in it. It's almost like going to bed with a sucker.
To ween them of the bottle of milk, my wife and I would just put half milk, half water for a few days, and slowly move over to just water. It works and within a week or so, they don't need or want milk at night.
Have you been brushing his teeth at night and in the morning?
not wishing to argue with anyone as this is bad enough for the kid needing treatment... but it is not very normal. It's very rare for a child under the age of 5 to have cavities... so its not normal.
also milk doesnt have a lot of sugar in it... it has lactose, and its quite a small amount really... and lactose is slightly different to what we would all call sugar. it is vital for the development of newborn humans and animals... but sugar it isnt.
Our Pediatrician told us that putting your kid to bed with a bottle of milk could result in tooth decay. It has also happened to two friends of ours. Maybe it's not suger per se, however milk can get very sticky, and it sticks to the teeth overnight.
i would say it is abnormal... abnormal means differing from the usual... the usual in this case is that 99% of kids teeth who drink milk and dont eat too many sweets/candy/fizzy drinks/etc will not have cavities.
many many studies have shown teeth are better protected by milk drinkers. no offence to your pediatrician but he/she is not a dentist. or a food stuffs expert.
its like saying "hey kids dont eat oranges or bananas as they contain sugar" ... milk contains sugar but it has way more fat in it that sugar for instance... but everything in moderation is healthy. especially milks, fruits, etc for young children.
and i dont know why i missed this... but how the fuck is this treatment costing $2000!!!!! in the UK all dental treatment for kids under 16 is totally free.... get with the fucking times America. :roll:
thats more shocking to me than anything about milk causing decay. truly.
apparently it can be even worse with breast milk, which apparently has even more sugars
sorry for your child, and for your wallet-be glad is not something worse.
egg-zactly...
We have a 20 month old, and every thing that we've read, and heard from our pediatrician was that once they have teeth, they shouldn't have their last bottle in bed.. falling asleep and having the milk sit in their mouths for a long time can cause tooth decay... but I would guess that falling asleep with any food/drink product in your mouth just sitting there would cause tooth decay. Would you let your kid have a snack in bed?
to the OP, do you brush your kid's teeth at night? It only takes a couple of minutes and we do during his night-time routine when changing his diaper before bed and stuff.
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there it is. a few people have already said it, but it seems to be overlooked. milk, in and of itself, is healthy and will not cause decay. the reason milk may cause decay, is when taken in bed, sans brushing. and no, i am no dentist nor have children, but i read a LOT on nutrition and health related articles, period. and i have heard of this. also, young children should consume whole milk, but i think once they are 5-7, it's suggested to start weaning them off full-fat to 2% and/or skim since the milk fat is no longer that beneficial to their growth.
to the OP, sorry to read of your child's dental woes.
ha!
this just happened to be on the MSN homepage today:
http://www.slate.com/id/2229630/?GT1=38001
had the hook "why the british have bad teeth"....hahaha....but really, it is about the american dental system, written by an expat UKer.
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Anything dirty left on your teeth overnight will wreak havoc on your teeth, moreso than the rest of the day, seemingly.The saliva doesn't cycle through as much and your mouth is hot and moist. It's a real scum mansion.
Having worked in dental office that does General Anaesthesia on children I can say that this is more normal than not. We have seen children as young as 2 with multiple cavities due to milk and juice being allowed to sit in the mouth all night (bottle rot). Having the teeth taken out, even though the new ones will be coming in within a few years is not a good idea as the baby teeth hold the spot for the adult teeth, and if they are not there you will be spending alot more on orthodontics. The cost does sound about right though, GA is very expensive and in Canada is not always covered by most insurance policies.... Dont feel bad though, it happens more than you think, and you have to remember that not everyones teeth are as strong as others, which also makes things like this more common unfortunately.
because you've worked in a dental office you can clarify with absolute certainty that more children under the age of 2 have cavities than children who dont?
I've just asked my daughter... out of 17 girls in her class only one girl has a filling... and she's 7.
this is NOT more normal than not...
there are no facts to back this up. so no offence to some posters on here... but this milk causing fillings thing must be on Snopes or something as i simply dont believe it.
dunk, are you not getting it?
it's not milk ALONE. it is only amongst those who allow their children to go to BED with a BOTTLE of milk (or juice as mentioned by the poster you quoted) it's the combination of milk to bed, sleeping with a bottle...no tooth brushing! so amongst those who allowed such practices, more than likely, that is where the poster is saying it is more normal than not to develop cavities. milk causing cavities, all by itself, no...that most definitely is not normal. i find nowadays hardly any kids get cavities at all anymore, so much better preventaative treatments and such. glad to see that happening in the UK too.
this part:
now if she is suggesting it is more common for ALL children under 2 to get cavities than not, you bet...i'm with you on that one. however, i was reading it (and all the other posts that agree with the statement) to be the combination of milk + bed + no tooth brushing = common cause for cavities in young children.
btw - just as an aside, i just checked out the nutrition panel on whole milk and indeed, clearly, it states: 1 cup of milk contains 12 grams of sugar. yes, they are naturally occurring sugars within the milk, but indeed, SUGAR. i had always known milk contained sugar, but i saw someone post that it does not. it does. many, many naturl foods contain sugars. yes, they are different from table sugar, but sugar none the less...and letting anything with any sugar sit on your teeth overnight, night after night, no brushing...you bet....can most definitely cause cavities.
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I never said that children under 2 have more cavities than not, I meant that having to do GA on children under 2 is more common than people would think. I believe I also said "milk and juice". Its also not the sugar so much as the acid in the milk that break down the teeth when left sitting for a long time. I still work in a dental office and explain this to patients on a regular basis. I do know what Im talking about
seriously. i am 40 and i remember the little girl next door and her baby teeth were all rotted (tho not to the point of needing to be replaced, or maybe they just didn't do it back then) b/c she went to bed each night with a milk bottle. poor kid had to go thru her early toddler years with terrible teeth until her new teeth came in.
i edited it in my last post, but just to correlate:
btw - just as an aside, i just checked out the nutrition panel on whole milk and indeed, clearly, it states: 1 cup of milk contains 12 grams of sugar. yes, they are naturally occurring sugars within the milk, but indeed, SUGAR. i had always known milk contained sugar, but i saw someone post that it does not. it does. many, many naturl foods contain sugars. yes, they are different from table sugar, but sugar none the less...and letting anything with any sugar sit on your teeth overnight, night after night, no brushing...you bet....can most definitely cause cavities.
Let's just breathe...
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