THE Drummer will be decided

Niko80

It’s important to consider what Dave A did with Krusens work on the stage. Dave A reinvented and improved. That’s why I consider Dave to be a contributing force not to the album ten, but to the success of ten.

After all, Pearl Jam drew its fans mostly because they developed a HUGE street buzz about being the hottest live show around. This street buzz took them to the top of Seattle and Seattle went global with the success of grunge. It is stupid and ignorant to not acknowledge Dave’s importance behind the pj drum kit. He appealed to so many people.

I say Dave was more important than we think. He also wrote Go, huge track!

zacman13245

I'm excited to hear more info about the re-release.

Gonzo1977

Ahh...The Great Pearl Jam Drummer Debate:

If technical studio drumming is your thing...you're obviously going to lean towards Dave A. Although I believe that Matt is way more of a technically sound drummer.

I agree with a previous poster that the band would have chosen Matt over Dave A from the very start.

Let's not forget that Matt drummed on their first demo. If Matt hadn't been in Soundgarden he would easily gotten the job.

I've got nothing against Dave A. I quite enjoyed his work with the band.

"GO" is one of the coolest songs the band has ever recorded.

But I could tell from the very start that there was a real tension between Dave and Eddie. I didn't notice so much the tension between Dave and Jeff Ament...their issues were likely more on a musical level than personal.

But if you go back to some of the early shows you'll see that there was hardly any interaction between Eddie and Dave on stage. Eddie hardly ever acknowledged Dave. If you look at shows with Jack and Matt, you'll always see Eddie interacting with them and feeding off their energy. Eddie and Dave were completly different people and at a time when the band was trying to make a break in a different direction...this tension probably boiled over and became quite uncomfortable for both.

And Let's face it...regardless of whether Dave and Eddie got along...Jeff and Dave didn't get along...THAT'S HUGE.

If your drummer and your bass player aren't getting along...well...It's safe to say that one of them is not going to be long for the band...and we all know that if the axe was going to drop on someone...it sure as hell wasn't going to be Jeff Ament that got the boot.

Matt is the perfect drummer for Pearl Jam. He brings a great dynamic to the group. He gets along great with the band, he contributes muscially, and he's held in very high regard with both Eddie and Jeff. He may not be as original as Jack Irons...but he's got some serious chops. And when it comes to technical drumming...he's miles ahead and in a completly different league than Dave A.

EP1973

If music is to be taken seriously as an art, there is no need in re-doing an album that has already been done. No one has put eyebrows on the Mona Lisa or re sculpted the Thinker... Leave "Ten" alone...if not you'll end up with some mess like the Ozzy remasters...er..re-recordings.

12345AGNST1

EP1973 wrote:

If music is to be taken seriously as an art, there is no need in re-doing an album that has already been done. No one has put eyebrows on the Mona Lisa or re sculpted the Thinker... Leave "Ten" alone...if not you'll end up with some mess like the Ozzy remasters...er..re-recordings.

Not when its Brendan O Brien doing it!

Brisk.

pc_loadletter wrote:

you know what dave would have been awesome to see in pj? grohl.

Why? he isn't good at the drums.

12345AGNST1

Off topic: Why was my "matt cameron is a f*ckin beast" thread deleted?

Brisk.

12345AGNST1 wrote:

Off topic: Why was my "matt cameron is a f*ckin beast" thread deleted?

you serious???

I did ponder as to where it had gone.

Gonzo1977

I BrisK I wrote:

Why? he isn't good at the drums.

I've got 4 words for you...

SONGS FOR THE DEAF

pc_loadletter

I BrisK I wrote:

Why? he isn't good at the drums.

true. he isnt the best drummer, but his energy on stage is unreal. i also love his song writing.

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LastExitBJP wrote:

I beleive how Cameron does on the rumored re-release (if it happens) will put an end to the squabble over who Pearl Jam's best drummer is. For some reason no one cares about Jack (my PJ fav drummer), but rather the attention goes to either Dave A (what ever happend to Crusen anyway?) or Matt C. I don't think Matt can surpass Dave on the re-release, but if he does, we all need to take a moment to agree with Ed when he takes the time to kiss Matt's butt during shows.
On a side note, does anyone think, again if this does happen, that it will be a huge slap in the face to Dave? I mean, the guy proababley gets no credit for his work (it's because of him that we have "Go."), and now PJ is taking his work on Ten and rehashing it. I have a theory that says it's because of Dave that they waited so long to play "Leash" again. Maybe it's the same for "Deep." Possibly making a new release may have the plus of being able to play it live again.

Dave A's first record was Vs. Krusen was on Ten.

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October22 wrote:

i'm still fucking blown away that this dude thought they were actually re-recording "10".

ah, that's what the post was about. shit man! that's funny now!!