What "friend" is Eddie seeing? What does he got "some" of?

OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,394
Both of these songs seem to be about drugs to be, especially Gonna See My Friend. What do you think? Severed Hand was obviously about drugs, so the band isn't that far removed from the drug scene.

In my opinion, I think its pretty lame for a 40-yr olds with kids and families to still be doing drugs.

Discuss.
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  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Err. I'm pretty sure none of them are doing drugs. :|

    To be honest, I haven't given too much thought to the meaning of the lyrics in those particular songs (yet). But them being about drug use never crossed my mind (again, yet).

    There's the possibility of Gonne See My Friend actually being about seeing friends. :lol: And now that I'm looking at the lyrics to Got Some, these lines stand out:

    Everytime you can try but can’t turn on
    Your rock song

    Got some if you need it


    ---

    Turn it up / set it off / before we’re gone
    Let’s everybody get it on, get it on


    Instead of drugs, I'd go for Ed (or whoever would be singing this song) having some 'rock'. Something to kick your arse up from where you might be lazying around. :D

    Of course, I might be wrong.

    But still, I'm pretty sure none of the guys are on drugs.
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  • Ed is a funny fella... they are drug songs but he isn't always talking in the Present Tense - he has not forgotten his past nor where he came from.
    Yes Got Some is about getting things, 1st off it is about Getting Some Rock n Roll . see the first lyrics.
    And friend in Gonna See My Friend is 100% Johnny Ramone - again not so much about getting drugs but about getting rock and roll... listen closely and think big and you will find that most times it sounds like drugs but Ed is really always singing about drugs
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  • Phew - I'd be really disappointed if they were still doing drugs.

    The way Eddie describes his "friend", i.e. I guess Johnny Ramone, makes Johnny sound like his drug. "Make it go away", "get what I require", "wanna feel withdrawal". I'm guessing that was purposeful; maybe to say friendships and such can be just as good if not better than drugs.

    Thanks for the help. :)!
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  • That being said, I'm totally wearing my "Johnny Ramone Army" shirt to the Portland/Clark County Amphitheater show.
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
    The friend could be a guitar. I finally clued in on the sound to the lyrics, and it looks like the friend could be a guitar.
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  • JedJed Posts: 1,187
    Acording to interviews with Ed that have been posted here and on twofeetthick, Got Some is about music.

    "I'm talking about music to put on when you don't know how you're going to get to work, when you're just not feeling it.It rains in Seattle 220 days a year on average - there's a lot of mornings its hard to get going. This song will do it."
  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    eMMI wrote:
    Err. I'm pretty sure none of them are doing drugs. :| .
    Not that it matters or its any of our business who's using what, but Ed said he wrote Unthought Known after he had pushed the limits of drinking and smoking one night (and probably not cigarettes). Another thread discussed the possibility of a line in Supersonic ("I'm not the paper, I'm more like the fold - Cut the crease & put the shit in the whole") being about rolling joints. Again, i don't think it should matter, but let's not be naive either. It IS rock and roll, after all...
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  • who doesnt do "drugs?" that word is totally arbitrary
  • Ed's friend sure sounds like a drug dealer to me.
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  • Well if you ask me, i think "Got Some" and other parts of the Album, foreshadow some bad news for PJ fans.

    Take for instance my other favorite band, Pink Floyd. I'm one of those guys that love Floyd post Roger Waters as well. On the "Division Bell" Cd, High Hopes is the last song... it rounds out with..

    "The grass was greener
    The light was brighter
    The taste was sweeter
    The nights of wonder
    With friends surrounded
    The dawn mist glowing
    The water flowing
    The endless river

    Forever and ever "

    Then a Huge magnificent Solo from David Gilmour. At that time and looking at the last line, i felt this was Pink Floyds last album. With the Passing of band members, this was definitely the last album they ever made.

    Now back on topic. Looking at "Got Some" i feel it's all about Pearl Jam as rockers and putting out hard rock songs. Lots of PJ fans don't like the slower ballads, or slower rock in general. I think Ed is telling them we still "Got Some" if you need it. And if you've seen any shows this tour, you know that this song is top notch. It doesnt get rocking much more than when they play "Got Some". But also look at some other lyrics..

    "Get it now before we're gone" This is plain as day to me.

    The band isn't gonna be around forever. They won't rock hard forever. Not that they are quitting, but being able to go on full scale world tours and all that stuff takes a toll. These guys have families now. So we better GET it NOW before they are gone.

    Back to the Floyd reference...maybe just seeing a song titled "The End" really scares the crap out of me ending an album. Sorry.

    Just don't want this to be it. I need more Albums. But that is me being selfish. These are people with their own lives and sooner rather than later, i could see them really scaling back on tours and new music. Hope i'm wrong, but thats my 2 cents.
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  • gonna see my friend is undoubtedly about a drug dealer - at least on some level.

    got some is pretty clearly just a pump up, get moving type of song. every time you try but you can't turn on your rock song - i think it means your internal "rock song" that gets your energy level up.
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,410
    You're being too literal.

    Sometimes a drug is a feeling. That's why people sometimes call love a "drug." It can color your days and make you feel euphoric like a drug might.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
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    SPOILER ALERT: Ed has said "Gonna See My Friend" is about a drug intervention. The lyrics only *sound* like he's going to see a drug dealer.

    I tend to think the first half of the song is about seeing a dealer, and the second half is about cleaning up. By the end he's wanting to "feel withdrawal" and vowing to be here forever "hard like a statue, black like a tattoo."

    Also, it should be noted ... not every song Ed writes is about Ed.

    I really don't know how on God's green earth "Got Some" could be considered a drug song, although I've seen some professional reviewers make that mistake, too. The song reads to me like a cheerleading song written during the 2008 election. What Ed's "got" you might say, is "hope and change." The song is basically saying, "get on board or get the hell out of the way." And if you need to borrow his bit of hope, he's glad to lend it to you.

    Put another way, it's sort of an extension of the old Bob Dylan lyric:

    Your old road is rapidly agin'.
    Please get out of the new one
    If you can't lend your hand
    For the times they are a-changin'.

    "Got Some" is the one political song on Backspacer, I think. No drugs there.
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  • Jed wrote:
    Acording to interviews with Ed that have been posted here and on twofeetthick, Got Some is about music.

    "I'm talking about music to put on when you don't know how you're going to get to work, when you're just not feeling it.It rains in Seattle 220 days a year on average - there's a lot of mornings its hard to get going. This song will do it."

    I don't read that comment as the song is written about music. I read that as this is the type of song (not the lyrics, the music) ed listens to in order to get him moving in the morning.
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  • Hagigun wrote:

    "Get it now before we're gone" This is plain as day to me.

    By "we" he means the human race. If you read the song as a political one, like I do, he's saying: "We're teetering on the brink of planetary destruction here. It's time to get on board with change, to come together as one, before we're gone."

    Seriously, the band has already been talking about future albums and future tours in interviews. They aren't going anywhere, at least not on purpose.
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  • I think Got Some has a lot to do with Obama and what he has and has not done yet

    "This situation, which side are you on?
    Are you getting out? Are you dropping bombs?
    Have you heard of diplomatic resolve?
  • idrapr wrote:
    I think Got Some has a lot to do with Obama and what he has and has not done yet

    "This situation, which side are you on?
    Are you getting out? Are you dropping bombs?
    Have you heard of diplomatic resolve?

    That would be an OK interpretation ... however, in all liklihood it was written before Obama took office. Plus, in interviews for Backspacer, Ed (and others) have been praising Obama, so they aren't exactly off the bandwagon.

    These two things lead me to believe the song was written as a sort of "call to arms" during the election. Or perhaps immediately afterward. You know, now the election is over ... who plans to get on board with hope and change, and who plans to stand in the way? Which side are you on?
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  • idrapr wrote:
    I think Got Some has a lot to do with Obama and what he has and has not done yet

    "This situation, which side are you on?
    Are you getting out? Are you dropping bombs?
    Have you heard of diplomatic resolve?

    That would be an OK interpretation ... however, in all liklihood it was written before Obama took office. Plus, in interviews for Backspacer, Ed (and others) have been praising Obama, so they aren't exactly off the bandwagon.

    These two things lead me to believe the song was written as a sort of "call to arms" during the election. Or perhaps immediately afterward. You know, now the election is over ... who plans to get on board with hope and change, and who plans to stand in the way? Which side are you on?

    When you put it that way it makes sense. More directed at the masses.
  • idrapr wrote:
    When you put it that way it makes sense. More directed at the masses.

    Though I doubt Ed was writing with a specific cause in mind, some of the lyrics remind me of the health care debate ... especially the "puddle full of detriment" bit.

    One one side, it seems like we've got people with a plan, however flawed. And on the other side we've got other people screaming about the flaws without really offering any solutions. What was it the George W said to Kerry during the 2004 election? "A list of complaints is not a plan."

    So, with health care, you've got these guys -- puddles full of detriment -- standing in the way of needed change without offering any solution of their own.

    I think what "Got Some" says is, you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Which side are you on? Get on board or get out of the way.
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  • Don't think Got Some is a claim against Obama, as Backspacer isn't an angry album at all. They got their pleasure back in making music!

    When Gonna See my Friend indeed is about drugs, why can't it be alcohol who is his friend?
  • MS7509 wrote:
    Ed's friend sure sounds like a drug dealer to me.

    That's exactly what I thought, and yet again I can relate to yet another Pearl jam song. go figure..... :lol:
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  • brett0400 wrote:
    its no ones business

    Right. Ed writes a song and we're not supposed to discuss the meaning. :roll:
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Ed writes for everyone- and theres some of us who are dying (The End)
    I think see my friend is a bottle- I sure know it helps when you're sick of everything and you just need to forget.
    Don't think I'm alone there
    and Got Some
    is what they give to others- the motivation to carry on to get up and have fun and to be something positive to the people around you Got Some gets you going
  • pandora wrote:
    Ed writes for everyone- and theres some of us who are dying (The End)
    I think see my friend is a bottle- I sure know it helps when you're sick of everything and you just need to forget.
    Don't think I'm alone there

    In an interview, Ed said the song is about a drug intervention. It's written as if someone is going to get a fix, but it actually means the opposite. He's going to stop it.

    What he's "sick of" is the addiction.

    I read this song as an extension of "Save You."
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    thats whats so great about lyrics- they are for the listener how he or she relates
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    Ed writes for everyone- and theres some of us who are dying (The End)
    I think see my friend is a bottle- I sure know it helps when you're sick of everything and you just need to forget.
    Don't think I'm alone there

    In an interview, Ed said the song is about a drug intervention. It's written as if someone is going to get a fix, but it actually means the opposite. He's going to stop it.

    What he's "sick of" is the addiction.

    I read this song as an extension of "Save You."
    I thought about this more last eve- I thought uh oh I'm addicted- well I'm not giving up my red wine
  • Come on people Eddie has been writing lyrics like these for years "Habit","Save You" and many others. It doesn't mean he's on drugs. He just talking about a friend who has an addiction.
  • Oh peeeeople. "Got Some" is clearly a song about Society/Marketing telling us what we need.

    I'm here to help, which is why I got some if you need it!
  • they aren't doing drugs!!! eddie even said he stopped smokin herb once olivia was born!!
    pretty sure his wine and throwin ax's are his main vices...
    he could be talking about anything/anyone...
    maybe a secret female friend...lol
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