let the haters clear out and move on to bitching about some other hipster annoyance.
No more SELLOUT threads. No more ED'S VOICE IS SHIT threads. This band is not responsible for YOUR hang-ups with "corporate machines." They are not your saviors and do not need you looking up to them as icons of truth and individuality. That was 1992, fucker. GET REAL.
The band of your youth is gone! Your youth is gone! Grow up, get a job and enjoy the music!
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting sick of the number of people on here who have absolutely no sense of humour, or any grasp of irony or sarcasm? It's like being surrounded by a bunch of children, who take everything literally. I've lost the will to post in half the ridiculous threads that have popped up.
Since the forum became a 'paying members only' forum, it seems to be overpopulated with either miserable 'the band can't do anything right' types, or ridiculously sycophantic arse holes who jump down people's thorats if they say anything even mildly dissenting about the band. So yeah, I totally agree with the sentiments of the OP. People need to lighten up and try and enjoy the music.
let the haters clear out and move on to bitching about some other hipster annoyance.
No more SELLOUT threads. No more ED'S VOICE IS SHIT threads. This band is not responsible for YOUR hang-ups with "corporate machines." They are not your saviors and do not need you looking up to them as icons of truth and individuality. That was 1992, fucker. GET REAL.
The band of your youth is gone! Your youth is gone! Grow up, get a job and enjoy the music!
Fine, if you want to see Pearl Jam whored out like the Jonas Brothers, than knock yourself out. I myself don't want to see cardboard cutouts of the band next to an airport terminal (true story about the Jonas Brothers), on every other billboard at tram stops (also true), having an ad cover a whole bus or tram (also true), being pimped on every award show and of course always having TARGET (or, in the JB's case, DISNEY) associated with their name, than thats fine. Sure. The Jonas Brothers have a lot of freedom. Thats what I want for Pearl Jam, a lack of freedom for increased advertising!!
Yes, I know its not that bad, but I'm just saying thats what it can turn in to. There's no reason they can't head down that path.
If Pearl Jam can do no wrong, ever, even if they're being hypocritical, than fine, lets just go along with everything they do without criticism. Blind faith. Cool. NO.
I'm allowed to have an opinion just as much as you; if you have a problem maybe you should get off the internet, get a job, and enjoy the music. :P
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let the haters clear out and move on to bitching about some other hipster annoyance.
No more SELLOUT threads. No more ED'S VOICE IS SHIT threads. This band is not responsible for YOUR hang-ups with "corporate machines." They are not your saviors and do not need you looking up to them as icons of truth and individuality. That was 1992, fucker. GET REAL.
The band of your youth is gone! Your youth is gone! Grow up, get a job and enjoy the music!
Fine, if you want to see Pearl Jam whored out like the Jonas Brothers, than knock yourself out. I myself don't want to see cardboard cutouts of the band next to an airport terminal (true story about the Jonas Brothers), on every other billboard at tram stops (also true), having an ad cover a whole bus or tram (also true), being pimped on every award show and of course always having TARGET (or, in the JB's case, DISNEY) associated with their name, than thats fine. Sure. The Jonas Brothers have a lot of freedom. Thats what I want for Pearl Jam, a lack of freedom for increased advertising!!
Yes, I know its not that bad, but I'm just saying thats what it can turn in to. There's no reason they can't head down that path.
If Pearl Jam can do no wrong, ever, even if they're being hypocritical, than fine, lets just go along with everything they do without criticism. Blind faith. Cool. NO.
I'm allowed to have an opinion just as much as you; if you have a problem maybe you should get off the internet, get a job, and enjoy the music. :P
when you start with saying they are anything at all like the JB's is when your argument lost all steam with me.
are you fucking serious with that shit ?
Peace, Love.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
Fine, if you want to see Pearl Jam whored out like the Jonas Brothers, than knock yourself out. I myself don't want to see cardboard cutouts of the band next to an airport terminal (true story about the Jonas Brothers), on every other billboard at tram stops (also true), having an ad cover a whole bus or tram (also true), being pimped on every award show and of course always having TARGET (or, in the JB's case, DISNEY) associated with their name, than thats fine. Sure. The Jonas Brothers have a lot of freedom. Thats what I want for Pearl Jam, a lack of freedom for increased advertising!!
Yes, I know its not that bad, but I'm just saying thats what it can turn in to. There's no reason they can't head down that path.
If Pearl Jam can do no wrong, ever, even if they're being hypocritical, than fine, lets just go along with everything they do without criticism. Blind faith. Cool. NO.
I'm allowed to have an opinion just as much as you; if you have a problem maybe you should get off the internet, get a job, and enjoy the music. :P
Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) you don't get a vote. Might as well get used to reality, because there's nothing you can do about it. Bitching solves nothing.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
People are just being negative because it's easy to be negative. Who is out there making better rock music now? Bruce's new stuff sucks, Dave Mathews has always sucked pretending he knows rock, nobody comes close!
metallica and foo fighters for starters.
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People are just being negative because it's easy to be negative. Who is out there making better rock music now? Bruce's new stuff sucks, Dave Mathews has always sucked pretending he knows rock, nobody comes close!
metallica and foo fighters for starters.
Well, that's an opinion, I guess. But really?
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
People are just being negative because it's easy to be negative. Who is out there making better rock music now? Bruce's new stuff sucks, Dave Mathews has always sucked pretending he knows rock, nobody comes close!
metallica and foo fighters for starters.
Well, that's an opinion, I guess. But really?
metallica had a "comeback album" in death magnetic and it easily totally destroyed load, reload, st anger, etc. can you really say backspacer is (x) times better than avocado, riot act, and binaural?
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everything Foo Fighters have released since Color/Shape has sounded exactly the same to me. the Foos are a prime example of a band that take ZERO chances.
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Yeah, I'm half bracing for the return of Bushleaguer ...
for the least they could possibly do
Amen.
I have listened to it a bunch of times now but keep switching around to what I am listening to.
People need to let it sink in a bit more before all the negativity or positivity.
Ahhhhh shut up!
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are you ... are you starting with me, ziggystar?
do you ... do you want some of this, ziggystar?
You'd fucking know if I was starting with you!
And it depends on what you've got as to whether I want some!
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★ 2011 - EV Newcastle, Melbourne 1, Melbourne 2 ★
honestly ... you scare me a little ... and that makes you hotter.
and i've got some ... and it's as smooth as can be ... but that's a subject for a different thread.
haha I'm not scary....unless you get on my bad side! I'm REALLY nice to the people I like though! Everyone else is fucked!
Yeahhhh....it's a shame that thread disappeared....was fun while it lasted! I think I need to make a new one....hmmm....what shall we discuss next!
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i dunno ... my mods are probably watching you now. you're a marked woman.
They've been watching me for a while.
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+1.
Ziggy and long red.
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Hey she's my bitch
Jose, there's no chance in hell I'm calling you daddy though...sorry!
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Loving the positivity over the past day or so.
Drowning the haters out?
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CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
Fine, if you want to see Pearl Jam whored out like the Jonas Brothers, than knock yourself out. I myself don't want to see cardboard cutouts of the band next to an airport terminal (true story about the Jonas Brothers), on every other billboard at tram stops (also true), having an ad cover a whole bus or tram (also true), being pimped on every award show and of course always having TARGET (or, in the JB's case, DISNEY) associated with their name, than thats fine. Sure. The Jonas Brothers have a lot of freedom. Thats what I want for Pearl Jam, a lack of freedom for increased advertising!!
Yes, I know its not that bad, but I'm just saying thats what it can turn in to. There's no reason they can't head down that path.
If Pearl Jam can do no wrong, ever, even if they're being hypocritical, than fine, lets just go along with everything they do without criticism. Blind faith. Cool. NO.
I'm allowed to have an opinion just as much as you; if you have a problem maybe you should get off the internet, get a job, and enjoy the music. :P
man, you said it all right here.
so sick of these people. :(
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
when you start with saying they are anything at all like the JB's is when your argument lost all steam with me.
are you fucking serious with that shit ?
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
Yes, because thats what commercialism looks like.
Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) you don't get a vote. Might as well get used to reality, because there's nothing you can do about it. Bitching solves nothing.
for the least they could possibly do
Yeah, selling records is bad.
:roll:
for the least they could possibly do
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MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
second of all ... their music retains its integrity, despite what you angst-ridden, anti-corporation, leftover gen-Xer's might think.
metallica and foo fighters for starters.
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Pittsburgh 6/23/2006
Columbia 6/16/2008
Bristow 5/13/2010
Well, that's an opinion, I guess. But really?
for the least they could possibly do
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Columbia 6/16/2008
Bristow 5/13/2010
Advertising vacuous, clichèd, unimaginative pop shite specifically directed at young children IS NOT the same thing as advertising normally.
Jonas Brothers my arse.
Still though, a PJ version of that "Ring On My Finger" south park song would be pretty funny
everything Foo Fighters have released since Color/Shape has sounded exactly the same to me. the Foos are a prime example of a band that take ZERO chances.
just my opinion.