By Obama Not Appearing on Fox News because of "Pettiness"..

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edited September 2009 in A Moving Train
....And Childishness, was this a good move :?: His reason I believe was that Fox News did not show his health care address.

Chris Wallace: Obama not appearing on Fox News because of "pettiness" and "childishness"

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  • His reason is that Fox News isn't a legitimate news reporting agency and he's got plenty of those to speak to.

    Fox News has made it more than clear that they're not interested in reporting news, they're not interested in being "fair and balanced" and they're not interested in anything but trying some kind of ambush.

    Why should he bother playing with them?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    part of me says it was a stupid move not to go on fox because it would give fox an inferiority complex and would clear the way for weeks of undefended attacks on his character. but then again they have been doing that for months so maybe it was his strategy to allow the attacks and hope that this would expose fox as the farce of a news channel that it is.

    fox has made it clear that they are not going to report on actual news, but instead they are going to try to control and influence the news cycle. they are going to drill for fear and even spread outright lies and disinformation about obama and his policies. maybe he felt he would be better served by making fox less legitimate since he would not appear. i think it says a lot about the network when the president chooses univision over fox news.

    these reporters inthe video have no clue why obama avoided fox.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Jasunmark wrote:
    His reason is that Fox News isn't a legitimate news reporting agency and he's got plenty of those to speak to.

    Fox News has made it more than clear that they're not interested in reporting news, they're not interested in being "fair and balanced" and they're not interested in anything but trying some kind of ambush.

    Why should he bother playing with them?

    You're kidding right?

    It's a dumb move....a dumb partisan move...something he said all along that he was above.
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  • You're kidding right?

    It's a dumb move....a dumb partisan move...something he said all along that he was above.


    Wait... "Partisan?" So you're admitting that Fox News has an extreme right-wing slant? Doesn't that back up my statement that they're not a legitimate news agency?

    Shouldn't news stations not have a bias? Any legitimate news station has no bias. I mean, he didn't go on Jon Stewart or Rachael Madeau... Those are left-slanted shows. Why should he go on a whole NETWORK that's obviously just going to try to ambush him?
  • Jasunmark wrote:
    His reason is that Fox News isn't a legitimate news reporting agency and he's got plenty of those to speak to.

    Fox News has made it more than clear that they're not interested in reporting news, they're not interested in being "fair and balanced" and they're not interested in anything but trying some kind of ambush.

    Why should he bother playing with them?

    You're kidding right?

    It's a dumb move....a dumb partisan move...something he said all along that he was above.

    I agree... I can't stand fox news, but by stooping down to their level just seems petty, and just gives them more ammo to go at the administration with.
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  • Jasunmark wrote:
    You're kidding right?

    It's a dumb move....a dumb partisan move...something he said all along that he was above.


    Wait... "Partisan?" So you're admitting that Fox News has an extreme right-wing slant? Doesn't that back up my statement that they're not a legitimate news agency?

    Shouldn't news stations not have a bias? Any legitimate news station has no bias. I mean, he didn't go on Jon Stewart or Rachael Madeau... Those are left-slanted shows. Why should he go on a whole NETWORK that's obviously just going to try to ambush him?

    Yes, Fox news has a right wing slant. Never said any different. And it's so evident because most of the other major news netwroks swing the other way.

    So, if fox isn't a legitimate news source because of their viewpoint...neither are any of the other ones and Obama is going to just have to buy more ad time.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    I wonder, when did Fox news dictate when the President sits down with them...? so Obama went on other shows, BFD...

    I think sitting down with fox simply legitimizes the channel...they have two guys on every night who do nothing but tear him down and spread misinformation...

    As I see it, Obama owes fox nothing and that fox is acting Petty by playing the "it's not fair" card...

    Seriously, it's not as if Obama would be able to change the mind of a typical fox viewer by sitting down with Cheney's boyfriend...
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    From a personal standpoint, I don't blame him. I wouldn't want to go either. You know it's not going to be a legit q&a on his plan, they're just going to ambush him and pull out decade old quotes and ACORN people and birth certificates to scream at him about and close with "so in short your plan is to execute our grandmothers right?" *cut mic, cue commercial*

    From a political standpoint, it's probably unwise. Fox depends on its watchers knowing nothing they don't feed them, so Obama being seen on there is his only hope to reach these people, because they aren't going to see him anywhere else except in effigies on fox. In addition, they don't grasp the idea of subtlety. We're talking about a large chunk of population that equates diplomacy with being a pansy homo democrat and thinks Bush's dick-swinging cowboy act made us much safer. Fox will scream that Obama is too chicken to face them and they'll buy it, because trying not to sink to their level is too dignified a response for them to notice. He could go on the show in a 10 gallon hat and gun down a news anchor and then maybe they'd go "now THAT is a president!" But trust me, having dealt with a lot of inbred morons while waiting tables, dignity and refusal to give attention and validation to whining morons is perceived as weakness, not intelligence. This is a very anti-intellectual demographic and I don't see this decision helping Obama any with them.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    if you are the president on the opposite side of the political spectrum than those at fox news why would you even go on there? why would you want to legitimize that network and give tacit approval to their tactics? why give them the opportunity to lampoon your presidency and marginalize you? i would think that 95% of all fox viewers did not vote for him and he still won the election by a landslide. i think i would take my chances by sticking with my base and let the fox viewers toss off to hannity and beck.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Fox News is very open about how they're not a legitimate news agency... they call themselves "Infotainment."

    Why should he bother with them?
  • potentially, i might be giving the fox News network audience too much credit, but, maybe if they were so interested in what the president had to say, they could just mosey on over to one of the other channels that he appears on. It's not that hard.

    fox has made decision after decision, not to air Obama's primetime addresses on their network. why should Obama dignify them with his presence? They are a 24/7 anti-Obama outlet. They have aired everything they can against him. also, do you think he has forgotten the comments made by Liz Trotta? the network was more than happy to air that.

    all i can say is, that if anyone has difficulty understanding why obama would be reluctant to appear on fox news, then any connection between your reality and mine, is purely coincidental.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Fox News Producer Caught Rallying Anti-Obama Protesters

    The website Huffington Post has revealed a producer for Fox News helped rally the crowd during last weekend’s anti-Obama protest in Washington. Video from the rally shows Fox News producer Heidi Noonan raising her arms to urge protesters to cheer louder. Fox News acknowledged Noonan had made a mistake and said she was disciplined. The protest had been heavily promoted by Fox News, especially by anchor Glenn Beck

    BTW by chance was this reported on Fox News? This goes to show how fair and balanced the Fox News producers really are. I wonder how she was disciplined?

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    g under p wrote:
    Fox News Producer Caught Rallying Anti-Obama Protesters

    The website Huffington Post has revealed a producer for Fox News helped rally the crowd during last weekend’s anti-Obama protest in Washington. Video from the rally shows Fox News producer Heidi Noonan raising her arms to urge protesters to cheer louder. Fox News acknowledged Noonan had made a mistake and said she was disciplined. The protest had been heavily promoted by Fox News, especially by anchor Glenn Beck

    BTW by chance was this reported on Fox News? This goes to show how fair and balanced the Fox News producers really are. I wonder how she was disciplined?

    Peace
    my guess is she was disciplined with a nice big nasty raise...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • The bottem line is Chris wallace would have asked him tough but FAIR questions. C.Wallace is always fair to his guest.
  • g under p wrote:
    Fox News Producer Caught Rallying Anti-Obama Protesters

    The website Huffington Post has revealed a producer for Fox News helped rally the crowd during last weekend’s anti-Obama protest in Washington. Video from the rally shows Fox News producer Heidi Noonan raising her arms to urge protesters to cheer louder. Fox News acknowledged Noonan had made a mistake and said she was disciplined. The protest had been heavily promoted by Fox News, especially by anchor Glenn Beck

    BTW by chance was this reported on Fox News? This goes to show how fair and balanced the Fox News producers really are. I wonder how she was disciplined?

    Peace

    so what, who gives a shit. Is this even important ? :roll:
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prfctlefts wrote:
    The bottem line is Chris wallace would have asked him tough but FAIR questions. C.Wallace is always fair to his guest.

    Then he should join a network that does fair reporting and maybe he'd get interviews like this.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prfctlefts wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    Fox News Producer Caught Rallying Anti-Obama Protesters

    The website Huffington Post has revealed a producer for Fox News helped rally the crowd during last weekend’s anti-Obama protest in Washington. Video from the rally shows Fox News producer Heidi Noonan raising her arms to urge protesters to cheer louder. Fox News acknowledged Noonan had made a mistake and said she was disciplined. The protest had been heavily promoted by Fox News, especially by anchor Glenn Beck

    BTW by chance was this reported on Fox News? This goes to show how fair and balanced the Fox News producers really are. I wonder how she was disciplined?

    Peace

    so what, who gives a shit. Is this even important ? :roll:

    The producer of their big time live event was attempting to manipulate the news, not report it. Kinda goes against their claims to be fair and balanced. Fair and balanced is reporting what happened, not trying to steer what's happening in a direction that will get better ratings or make their talking heads look better.
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited September 2009
    Jasunmark wrote:
    His reason is that Fox News isn't a legitimate news reporting agency and he's got plenty of those to speak to.

    Fox News has made it more than clear that they're not interested in reporting news, they're not interested in being "fair and balanced" and they're not interested in anything but trying some kind of ambush.

    Why should he bother playing with them?


    Man you are absolutely clueless. If Obama would have went on Fox news sunday He would have had a chance to address millions more people and answer some real questions on Healthcare and other important issues. Why don't you go back and watch O' reilly's interview with Obama and when He interviewed H. Clinton. I personally think that's the reason he didnt go on fox cos he knew that he wouldn't be able to spin his answers and not give us all the facts like he can on the other networks. All the other networks are totally in the tank for Obama especially NBC. ( Go and Google Jeff Imelt and see what you get )
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  • prfctlefts wrote:
    The bottem line is Chris wallace would have asked him tough but FAIR questions. C.Wallace is always fair to his guest.

    Then he should join a network that does fair reporting and maybe he'd get interviews like this.

    What like MSNBC :lol::lol:
  • prfctlefts wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    The bottem line is Chris wallace would have asked him tough but FAIR questions. C.Wallace is always fair to his guest.

    Then he should join a network that does fair reporting and maybe he'd get interviews like this.

    What like MSNBC :lol::lol:

    I must have missed the interview he did with MSNBC this weekend...
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prfctlefts wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    The bottem line is Chris wallace would have asked him tough but FAIR questions. C.Wallace is always fair to his guest.

    Then he should join a network that does fair reporting and maybe he'd get interviews like this.

    What like MSNBC :lol::lol:

    MSNBC is a joke too. Your intellectual blind spots are pretty apparent there when you rant all damn day about how slanted msnbc is but refuse to acknowledge any sort of bias in Fox's news agenda.
  • Fox does lean right ther's no denying that but, they do report first on stories that some other Networks are slow to report on. Like ACORN.

    And what network should he join then since you are the go to guy when it comes to journalistic standards ?
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Fox does lean right ther's no denying that but, they do report first on stories that some other Networks are slow to report on. Like ACORN.

    Maybe because ACORN is not an important news story and they get those things first because nobody else cares to cover them because nobody else is desperately seeking to destroy all candidates that aren't right wing? Kinda like how fox was all over the disgusting witch hunt that was swift boats for truth.
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited September 2009
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Fox does lean right ther's no denying that but, they do report first on stories that some other Networks are slow to report on. Like ACORN.

    Maybe because ACORN is not an important news story and they get those things first because nobody else cares to cover them because nobody else is desperately seeking to destroy all candidates that aren't right wing? Kinda like how fox was all over the disgusting witch hunt that was swift boats for truth.

    ACORN isn't important :shock: Yeah ok :lol: :? :roll: Um let's see.. I guess the U.S. Census Dept must think it's a big deal or they wouldn't have cut their ties with them. Or maybe all the congressman and senators would have deciced to not cut off their federal funding ( Money from TAX PAYERS ) if they didn't think it was a big deal. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. It's not even worth trying to have a discussion with you because you only see and hear what you want to. If you don't think ACORN isn't a huge story than with all due respect you are totally misguided. Have you not seen the clips?
    Why don't you go ask what Marcel Reid thinks. She was a former board member that was booted in the summer of 2008 when she tried to open up their books.
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  • Amen. MSNBC is a joke. It's too much to ask for in the country to just get the fucking news. No slant. No agendas. Just the news.

    ACORN is some bad apples doing bad shit. Just the same as a couple of guys from Blackwater doing bad shit. Did you see that on Fox News. How's it different than some bad apples at the US embassy in Afghanistan only promoting females after sexual favors. Should we go ahead and just cut all ties with Blackwater and the military and embassy in Afghanistan because of some bad apples? Guess which of the three is getting the LEAST money from the government?
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prfctlefts wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Fox does lean right ther's no denying that but, they do report first on stories that some other Networks are slow to report on. Like ACORN.

    Maybe because ACORN is not an important news story and they get those things first because nobody else cares to cover them because nobody else is desperately seeking to destroy all candidates that aren't right wing? Kinda like how fox was all over the disgusting witch hunt that was swift boats for truth.

    ACORN isn't important :shock: Yeah ok . You obviously don't know what you're talking about

    No, it's not. The whole story was, like Rev Wright, birth certificates, and all that other nonsense, a desperate attempt by the right and Fox to find anything to take down his candidacy. I couldn't give a flying fuck about the fact that the man once did some volunteer work with an organization with occasionally sketchy practices. Obama's from Chicago. There aren't any organizations without sketchy practices in the entire city!

    But I guess it explains a lot about why you think Foxnews is a good place to get the real, fair story. When their producers aren't manipulating the news stories they're covering for better ratings and outrage.

    As to what news network he should join, I couldn't say. I avoid cable news generally. But I know fox and msnbc are a joke, so maybe one of the major networks or cspan if he wants. But nobody watches cspan. Because they just cover shit... and that pales compared to the joly you get from a nice old fashioned foxnews "OBAMA enacts law to eat your baby at the white house!" tagline to go with horror movie sound effects and whatnot.
  • How IS ACORN important? You tell me. I had to investigate them over a year ago about questions people were raising about voter registration...and nothing
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    How IS ACORN important? You tell me. I had to investigate them over a year ago about questions people were raising about voter registration...and nothing

    Did you investigate using real, fair and balanced sources like Fox? If you had, you'd know that they are all secretly militant islamic ninjas aiming to begin genocide against white christians by manipulating the polls. Or so I hear.
  • Amen. MSNBC is a joke. It's too much to ask for in the country to just get the fucking news. No slant. No agendas. Just the news.

    ACORN is some bad apples doing bad shit. Just the same as a couple of guys from Blackwater doing bad shit. Did you see that on Fox News. How's it different than some bad apples at the US embassy in Afghanistan only promoting females after sexual favors. Should we go ahead and just cut all ties with Blackwater and the military and embassy in Afghanistan because of some bad apples? Guess which of the three is getting the LEAST money from the government?


    I agree with you on the whole Blackwater situation, But don't all three get money from the same source ? The Taxpayers..
  • How IS ACORN important? You tell me. I had to investigate them over a year ago about questions people were raising about voter registration...and nothing

    so who do you work for ? I thought you worked on Obama's campaign. So why would you be investigating ACORN
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