By Obama Not Appearing on Fox News because of "Pettiness"..

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edited September 2009 in A Moving Train
....And Childishness, was this a good move :?: His reason I believe was that Fox News did not show his health care address.

Chris Wallace: Obama not appearing on Fox News because of "pettiness" and "childishness"

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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    His reason is that Fox News isn't a legitimate news reporting agency and he's got plenty of those to speak to.

    Fox News has made it more than clear that they're not interested in reporting news, they're not interested in being "fair and balanced" and they're not interested in anything but trying some kind of ambush.

    Why should he bother playing with them?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    part of me says it was a stupid move not to go on fox because it would give fox an inferiority complex and would clear the way for weeks of undefended attacks on his character. but then again they have been doing that for months so maybe it was his strategy to allow the attacks and hope that this would expose fox as the farce of a news channel that it is.

    fox has made it clear that they are not going to report on actual news, but instead they are going to try to control and influence the news cycle. they are going to drill for fear and even spread outright lies and disinformation about obama and his policies. maybe he felt he would be better served by making fox less legitimate since he would not appear. i think it says a lot about the network when the president chooses univision over fox news.

    these reporters inthe video have no clue why obama avoided fox.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,892
    Jasunmark wrote:
    His reason is that Fox News isn't a legitimate news reporting agency and he's got plenty of those to speak to.

    Fox News has made it more than clear that they're not interested in reporting news, they're not interested in being "fair and balanced" and they're not interested in anything but trying some kind of ambush.

    Why should he bother playing with them?

    You're kidding right?

    It's a dumb move....a dumb partisan move...something he said all along that he was above.
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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    cincybearcat wrote:
    You're kidding right?

    It's a dumb move....a dumb partisan move...something he said all along that he was above.


    Wait... "Partisan?" So you're admitting that Fox News has an extreme right-wing slant? Doesn't that back up my statement that they're not a legitimate news agency?

    Shouldn't news stations not have a bias? Any legitimate news station has no bias. I mean, he didn't go on Jon Stewart or Rachael Madeau... Those are left-slanted shows. Why should he go on a whole NETWORK that's obviously just going to try to ambush him?
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Jasunmark wrote:
    His reason is that Fox News isn't a legitimate news reporting agency and he's got plenty of those to speak to.

    Fox News has made it more than clear that they're not interested in reporting news, they're not interested in being "fair and balanced" and they're not interested in anything but trying some kind of ambush.

    Why should he bother playing with them?

    You're kidding right?

    It's a dumb move....a dumb partisan move...something he said all along that he was above.

    I agree... I can't stand fox news, but by stooping down to their level just seems petty, and just gives them more ammo to go at the administration with.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,892
    Jasunmark wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    You're kidding right?

    It's a dumb move....a dumb partisan move...something he said all along that he was above.


    Wait... "Partisan?" So you're admitting that Fox News has an extreme right-wing slant? Doesn't that back up my statement that they're not a legitimate news agency?

    Shouldn't news stations not have a bias? Any legitimate news station has no bias. I mean, he didn't go on Jon Stewart or Rachael Madeau... Those are left-slanted shows. Why should he go on a whole NETWORK that's obviously just going to try to ambush him?

    Yes, Fox news has a right wing slant. Never said any different. And it's so evident because most of the other major news netwroks swing the other way.

    So, if fox isn't a legitimate news source because of their viewpoint...neither are any of the other ones and Obama is going to just have to buy more ad time.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    I wonder, when did Fox news dictate when the President sits down with them...? so Obama went on other shows, BFD...

    I think sitting down with fox simply legitimizes the channel...they have two guys on every night who do nothing but tear him down and spread misinformation...

    As I see it, Obama owes fox nothing and that fox is acting Petty by playing the "it's not fair" card...

    Seriously, it's not as if Obama would be able to change the mind of a typical fox viewer by sitting down with Cheney's boyfriend...
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    From a personal standpoint, I don't blame him. I wouldn't want to go either. You know it's not going to be a legit q&a on his plan, they're just going to ambush him and pull out decade old quotes and ACORN people and birth certificates to scream at him about and close with "so in short your plan is to execute our grandmothers right?" *cut mic, cue commercial*

    From a political standpoint, it's probably unwise. Fox depends on its watchers knowing nothing they don't feed them, so Obama being seen on there is his only hope to reach these people, because they aren't going to see him anywhere else except in effigies on fox. In addition, they don't grasp the idea of subtlety. We're talking about a large chunk of population that equates diplomacy with being a pansy homo democrat and thinks Bush's dick-swinging cowboy act made us much safer. Fox will scream that Obama is too chicken to face them and they'll buy it, because trying not to sink to their level is too dignified a response for them to notice. He could go on the show in a 10 gallon hat and gun down a news anchor and then maybe they'd go "now THAT is a president!" But trust me, having dealt with a lot of inbred morons while waiting tables, dignity and refusal to give attention and validation to whining morons is perceived as weakness, not intelligence. This is a very anti-intellectual demographic and I don't see this decision helping Obama any with them.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    if you are the president on the opposite side of the political spectrum than those at fox news why would you even go on there? why would you want to legitimize that network and give tacit approval to their tactics? why give them the opportunity to lampoon your presidency and marginalize you? i would think that 95% of all fox viewers did not vote for him and he still won the election by a landslide. i think i would take my chances by sticking with my base and let the fox viewers toss off to hannity and beck.
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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Fox News is very open about how they're not a legitimate news agency... they call themselves "Infotainment."

    Why should he bother with them?
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    potentially, i might be giving the fox News network audience too much credit, but, maybe if they were so interested in what the president had to say, they could just mosey on over to one of the other channels that he appears on. It's not that hard.

    fox has made decision after decision, not to air Obama's primetime addresses on their network. why should Obama dignify them with his presence? They are a 24/7 anti-Obama outlet. They have aired everything they can against him. also, do you think he has forgotten the comments made by Liz Trotta? the network was more than happy to air that.

    all i can say is, that if anyone has difficulty understanding why obama would be reluctant to appear on fox news, then any connection between your reality and mine, is purely coincidental.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Fox News Producer Caught Rallying Anti-Obama Protesters

    The website Huffington Post has revealed a producer for Fox News helped rally the crowd during last weekend’s anti-Obama protest in Washington. Video from the rally shows Fox News producer Heidi Noonan raising her arms to urge protesters to cheer louder. Fox News acknowledged Noonan had made a mistake and said she was disciplined. The protest had been heavily promoted by Fox News, especially by anchor Glenn Beck

    BTW by chance was this reported on Fox News? This goes to show how fair and balanced the Fox News producers really are. I wonder how she was disciplined?

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    g under p wrote:
    Fox News Producer Caught Rallying Anti-Obama Protesters

    The website Huffington Post has revealed a producer for Fox News helped rally the crowd during last weekend’s anti-Obama protest in Washington. Video from the rally shows Fox News producer Heidi Noonan raising her arms to urge protesters to cheer louder. Fox News acknowledged Noonan had made a mistake and said she was disciplined. The protest had been heavily promoted by Fox News, especially by anchor Glenn Beck

    BTW by chance was this reported on Fox News? This goes to show how fair and balanced the Fox News producers really are. I wonder how she was disciplined?

    Peace
    my guess is she was disciplined with a nice big nasty raise...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    The bottem line is Chris wallace would have asked him tough but FAIR questions. C.Wallace is always fair to his guest.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    g under p wrote:
    Fox News Producer Caught Rallying Anti-Obama Protesters

    The website Huffington Post has revealed a producer for Fox News helped rally the crowd during last weekend’s anti-Obama protest in Washington. Video from the rally shows Fox News producer Heidi Noonan raising her arms to urge protesters to cheer louder. Fox News acknowledged Noonan had made a mistake and said she was disciplined. The protest had been heavily promoted by Fox News, especially by anchor Glenn Beck

    BTW by chance was this reported on Fox News? This goes to show how fair and balanced the Fox News producers really are. I wonder how she was disciplined?

    Peace

    so what, who gives a shit. Is this even important ? :roll:
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prfctlefts wrote:
    The bottem line is Chris wallace would have asked him tough but FAIR questions. C.Wallace is always fair to his guest.

    Then he should join a network that does fair reporting and maybe he'd get interviews like this.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prfctlefts wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    Fox News Producer Caught Rallying Anti-Obama Protesters

    The website Huffington Post has revealed a producer for Fox News helped rally the crowd during last weekend’s anti-Obama protest in Washington. Video from the rally shows Fox News producer Heidi Noonan raising her arms to urge protesters to cheer louder. Fox News acknowledged Noonan had made a mistake and said she was disciplined. The protest had been heavily promoted by Fox News, especially by anchor Glenn Beck

    BTW by chance was this reported on Fox News? This goes to show how fair and balanced the Fox News producers really are. I wonder how she was disciplined?

    Peace

    so what, who gives a shit. Is this even important ? :roll:

    The producer of their big time live event was attempting to manipulate the news, not report it. Kinda goes against their claims to be fair and balanced. Fair and balanced is reporting what happened, not trying to steer what's happening in a direction that will get better ratings or make their talking heads look better.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited September 2009
    Jasunmark wrote:
    His reason is that Fox News isn't a legitimate news reporting agency and he's got plenty of those to speak to.

    Fox News has made it more than clear that they're not interested in reporting news, they're not interested in being "fair and balanced" and they're not interested in anything but trying some kind of ambush.

    Why should he bother playing with them?


    Man you are absolutely clueless. If Obama would have went on Fox news sunday He would have had a chance to address millions more people and answer some real questions on Healthcare and other important issues. Why don't you go back and watch O' reilly's interview with Obama and when He interviewed H. Clinton. I personally think that's the reason he didnt go on fox cos he knew that he wouldn't be able to spin his answers and not give us all the facts like he can on the other networks. All the other networks are totally in the tank for Obama especially NBC. ( Go and Google Jeff Imelt and see what you get )
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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    soulsinging wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    The bottem line is Chris wallace would have asked him tough but FAIR questions. C.Wallace is always fair to his guest.

    Then he should join a network that does fair reporting and maybe he'd get interviews like this.

    What like MSNBC :lol::lol:
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    prfctlefts wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    The bottem line is Chris wallace would have asked him tough but FAIR questions. C.Wallace is always fair to his guest.

    Then he should join a network that does fair reporting and maybe he'd get interviews like this.

    What like MSNBC :lol::lol:

    I must have missed the interview he did with MSNBC this weekend...
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