The first BAD review for BAckspacer I've seen

2-feign-reluctance

its the times after all. of course they aren't gonna like PJ.

modernmonkey

little q and a with eddie today in the irish independant.pretty poor,two kurt question and two ticketmaster questions.

to give an example
question 2: can you remember how you felt when you heard kurt had taken his life?
ed: "that would be stating the obvious.id rather not talk about it.um yeah,actually,im going to get pretty upset if we go on"

Irish Al

modernmonkey wrote:

little q and a with eddie today in the irish independant.pretty poor,two kurt question and two ticketmaster questions.

to give an example
question 2: can you remember how you felt when you heard kurt had taken his life?
ed: "that would be stating the obvious.id rather not talk about it.um yeah,actually,im going to get pretty upset if we go on"

Fuckin Dicks these journos...the band have been fielding these q's for years now, I'd get fucked off as well :evil:

modernmonkey

Irish Al wrote:

modernmonkey wrote:

little q and a with eddie today in the irish independant.pretty poor,two kurt question and two ticketmaster questions.

to give an example
question 2: can you remember how you felt when you heard kurt had taken his life?
ed: "that would be stating the obvious.id rather not talk about it.um yeah,actually,im going to get pretty upset if we go on"

Fuckin Dicks these journos...the band have been fielding these q's for years now, I'd get fucked off as well :evil:

too true,
here is a link to the article
http://www.independent.ie/entertainment ... 90278.html

HeavyHands

pdalowsky wrote:

...isnt he a journalist?

No. Journalists... true with-a-capital-J Journalists do their best to eliminate bias and provide an outsiders perspective while putting things into a larger context. They are very rare these days.

intheflesh wrote:

I would like read just one article on Pearl Jam where the writer didn't use the words angst, 90's rock or Ticketmaster within the first few paragraphs.

Yes. A thousand times yes. I don't think I've read an article in ages that has passed over the broad details that most everyone already is aware of. You'd think with space being a premium on the printed page that it would be more important for the author's to be succinct in their interviews or reviews.

fightingthesuburbs

Music critics are critics and journalists. But clearly you'd expect opinion from a critic or else you wouldn't read it. A pure news story on Backspacer would read like this:

Backspacer is Pearl Jam's ninth album. It features 11 songs and clocks in at 36 minutes, the shortest Pearl Jam record to date.

It was recorded in Atlanta, Georgia by producer Brendan O'Brien.

The first single is The Fixer. Pearl Jam debuted another song Got Some on the Conan O'Brien show, no relation to Brendan O'Brien.

And so on...

pjfan021

my problem with it isn't that it's negative, but that it's very smug and pretentious. Like someone else said, "Mr.Vedder" is a douche way of saying eddie and he doesn't mention anything about the other memebers...doesn't talk about the quality of the music, just the lyrics really. Seems like he listened to the first 3 albums and then this one. but whatever..can't wait for tues.

BlackThirteen

I hate how this review keeps talking about how Eddie used to be angry and now his music has kind of mellowed out and how that's a bad thing. The reviewer doesn't seem to understand that Eddie isn't a 20 something anymore. He's older now and along with age his way of thinking also changes. People seem to forget that musicians age as well. They're people and also have the same wide range of emotions that non musicians have. Well that's just my two cents.

decides2dream

threefish10 wrote:

wow you would think he just called your mum a slut.


it's just one guys opinion. who cares.

hahaha...indeed!
i will never understand why people get up in arms over OPINIONS, especially about something as subjective as music. we're all entitled to em. i've not yet heard backspacer outside of got some on conan, so i wait to reserve judgement. however, if this guy doesn't like it.....well hell, he is more than entitled to have and share that opinion. it also doesn't make him a douchebag or less of a human being....

Irish Al

decides2dream wrote:

threefish10 wrote:

wow you would think he just called your mum a slut.


it's just one guys opinion. who cares.

hahaha...indeed!
i will never understand why people get up in arms over OPINIONS, especially about something as subjective as music. we're all entitled to em. i've not yet heard backspacer outside of got some on conan, so i wait to reserve judgement. however, if this guy doesn't like it.....well hell, he is more than entitled to have and share that opinion. it also doesn't make him a douchebag or less of a human being....

Ah it does really

pdalowsky

HeavyHands wrote:

pdalowsky wrote:

...isnt he a journalist?

No. Journalists... true with-a-capital-J Journalists do their best to eliminate bias and provide an outsiders perspective while putting things into a larger context. They are very rare these days.

intheflesh wrote:

I would like read just one article on Pearl Jam where the writer didn't use the words angst, 90's rock or Ticketmaster within the first few paragraphs.

Yes. A thousand times yes. I don't think I've read an article in ages that has passed over the broad details that most everyone already is aware of. You'd think with space being a premium on the printed page that it would be more important for the author's to be succinct in their interviews or reviews.

perhaps your missing the sarcasm intended.

ComeToTX

the Paste review wasn't great.

decides2dream

Irish Al wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

threefish10 wrote:

wow you would think he just called your mum a slut.


it's just one guys opinion. who cares.

hahaha...indeed!
i will never understand why people get up in arms over OPINIONS, especially about something as subjective as music. we're all entitled to em. i've not yet heard backspacer outside of got some on conan, so i wait to reserve judgement. however, if this guy doesn't like it.....well hell, he is more than entitled to have and share that opinion. it also doesn't make him a douchebag or less of a human being....

Ah it does really

at most, it illustrates he has poor taste in music. nothing more, nothing less.

Kilgore_Trout

the thread title should be changed to "the first TRUE review"

spot on how i feel about the album... strong beginning that loses steam SO quickly... the U2 and springsteen thing definitely came to mind...

these bad reviews are necessary to the artistic process... if they get nothing but praise then what does the band really take from everything

whether youre pro backspacer or a total hater you gotta admit this albums far from perfect... cant hurt to mention the negatives and hope the band fixes them the next time around... or even when they play them live

Raeleigh

threefish10 wrote:

wow you would think he just called your mum a slut.


it's just one guys opinion. who cares.

Well, it's pretty much just as bad, that's why

Flagg

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

whether youre pro backspacer or a total hater you gotta admit this albums far from perfect... cant hurt to mention the negatives and hope the band fixes them the next time around... or even when they play them live

I don't think it is far from perfect at all. Far from perfect (to me) would have me skipping songs. Like I do on every other album. And that's not because this one is new, its because there is no filler like Red Dot, Bugs, Pry To, Foxy Mop Handle whatever, Soon Forget, Big Wave, I'm Open, and almost all of Riot Act.

My opinion though.

But I have to wonder what people were looking for here. More of the same?

bigbadbill

opinions ARE assholes - the same with people

Ltrain76

It's an honest review. Backspacer is a terrible album. Easily their worst - I love all other albums but this one is bad. People are programmed to say it's great because it's PJ but come on - Do you realize what you are listening to? It's a poor album except for the 3 songs - get some, the fixer, supersonic

Spags

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

these bad reviews are necessary to the artistic process... if they get nothing but praise then what does the band really take from everything

I'd be very suprised if a band after all these years read the reviews and then took these people opinions on board. If the people at the shows started booing during a song or they failed to sell out their gigs then maybe they would take that on board...maybe...

MayDay10

"For once in his life, Eddie Vedder seems basically happy"

this first phrase is where I stopped reading