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  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Most everyone other than FOX is leberal, all you have to do is watch it to know that. And i've tried reading those bills, call me stupid but can't make much sense out of it. They should be written so the common citizen can understand them.
  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    I agree.
    The president tries to explain them, but there’s always going to be people that don’t believe him. Because politics are just like that. Some politicians do lie.
    But how about factchecker.org? don’t they break down things into layman’s terms?
    *~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*

  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    Most everyone other than FOX is leberal, all you have to do is watch it to know that. And i've tried reading those bills, call me stupid but can't make much sense out of it. They should be written so the common citizen can understand them.
    ...
    This is a great post... I'm going to print and frame it.
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    Everyone... including the wire services... AP, Reuters... are liberals, huh? Where did you get that? Lemme guess.... from watching FOX News?
    ...
    And if you cannot understand the essense of what the Bill says and does not say... how can you have an intelligent opinion on it?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    Most everyone other than FOX is leberal, all you have to do is watch it to know that. And i've tried reading those bills, call me stupid but can't make much sense out of it. They should be written so the common citizen can understand them.
    ...
    This is a great post... I'm going to print and frame it.
    ...
    Everyone... including the wire services... AP, Reuters... are liberals, huh? Where did you get that? Lemme guess.... from watching FOX News?
    ...
    And if you cannot understand the essense of what the Bill says and does not say... how can you have an intelligent opinion on it?


    get real dude. there are thousands of people who can not understand them and they are very inteligent. And why should we read them.....THE CONGRESSMEN THAT PASS THEM DON'T!!!!!
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    Most everyone other than FOX is leberal, all you have to do is watch it to know that. And i've tried reading those bills, call me stupid but can't make much sense out of it. They should be written so the common citizen can understand them.
    ...
    This is a great post... I'm going to print and frame it.
    ...
    Everyone... including the wire services... AP, Reuters... are liberals, huh? Where did you get that? Lemme guess.... from watching FOX News?
    ...
    And if you cannot understand the essense of what the Bill says and does not say... how can you have an intelligent opinion on it?


    get real dude. there are thousands of people who can not understand them and they are very inteligent. And why should we read them.....THE CONGRESSMEN THAT PASS THEM DON'T!!!!!
    ...
    Oh... you can have an opinion on it... This is America, you can have an opinion on anything... no matter how uninformed, misinformed or just plain moronic that opinion is.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    Really? Come on.
    If a Congress member doesn’t read a bill before debating and passing it, then what are they there for? If that’s true we as voters have nobody to blame but ourselves.

    I think every single person in Congress knows each bill backwards and forward.
    It’s their own personal agendas that fucks things up IMO.
    There’s no such thing as a selfless public servant anymore.
    *~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*

  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    Really? Come on.
    If a Congress member doesn’t read a bill before debating and passing it, then what are they there for? If that’s true we as voters have nobody to blame but ourselves.

    I think every single person in Congress knows each bill backwards and forward.
    It’s their own personal agendas that fucks things up IMO.
    There’s no such thing as a selfless public servant anymore.


    wow, ummmm, the stimulus package that was passed for...how many billions again? was handed to congress the night before it was passed and it was almost 12 " thick. i'm sure there not all speed readers.
  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    Well then they’re not doing their job as Congress members then.
    Vote them out.
    Protests outside their office.
    Etc.
    *~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*

  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    Really? Come on.
    If a Congress member doesn’t read a bill before debating and passing it, then what are they there for? If that’s true we as voters have nobody to blame but ourselves.

    I think every single person in Congress knows each bill backwards and forward.
    It’s their own personal agendas that fucks things up IMO.
    There’s no such thing as a selfless public servant anymore.


    wow, ummmm, the stimulus package that was passed for...how many billions again? was handed to congress the night before it was passed and it was almost 12 " thick. i'm sure there not all speed readers.
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    Okay... This I am certain is not true. You may believe Bills work this way... but, that does not mean they work the way you believe them to.
    The TRUTH is, The House Bill was introduced to the House on 26January2009 and the Senate Bill even earlier, 06January2009. The Bill was eventually signed by President Obama on 13February2009. That gave them a few weeks to read and argue about it. If your representative cannot read a bill in a couple of weeks... he does not belong in Congress, passing laws that affect all of us.
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    I don't know where you get your information... but, it is beyond bogus and delves deeply into the total bullshit zone.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    Cosmo wrote:
    If your representative cannot read a bill in a couple of weeks... he does not belong in Congress, passing laws that affect all of us.

    that's what i'm thinking.........gezz louise.
    *~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*

  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    Really? Come on.
    If a Congress member doesn’t read a bill before debating and passing it, then what are they there for? If that’s true we as voters have nobody to blame but ourselves.

    I think every single person in Congress knows each bill backwards and forward.
    It’s their own personal agendas that fucks things up IMO.
    There’s no such thing as a selfless public servant anymore.


    wow, ummmm, the stimulus package that was passed for...how many billions again? was handed to congress the night before it was passed and it was almost 12 " thick. i'm sure there not all speed readers.
    ...
    Okay... This I am certain is not true. You may believe Bills work this way... but, that does not mean they work the way you believe them to.
    The TRUTH is, The House Bill was introduced to the House on 26January2009 and the Senate Bill even earlier, 06January2009. The Bill was eventually signed by President Obama on 13February2009. That gave them a few weeks to read and argue about it. If your representative cannot read a bill in a couple of weeks... he does not belong in Congress, passing laws that affect all of us.
    ...
    I don't know where you get your information... but, it is beyond bogus and delves deeply into the total bullshit zone.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvnwOjDjnH4
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oH_hflV ... PL&index=7
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oH_hflVzuM&feature=PlayList&p=FE02795D9DC886EC&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7
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    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1
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    This is the timeline of the Bill's passage.
    Introduced on 26January2009
    Passed in the Senate on 10February2009
    If your guy can't read a Bill in 15 days... he does not belong in Government.
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    And you can remember the end of 2008, right? It was when Wall Street almost came crashing down, taking the global economy with it.
    Read the Bill... what don't you like in it?
    P.S. Take your time... You have more than 24 hours to read it.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    House votes to deny all federal funds for ACORN

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/ap_ ... ress_acorn
    *~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*

  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-s ... ity-of-hos

    :lol::lol::lol:
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    House votes to deny all federal funds for ACORN

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/ap_ ... ress_acorn
    ...
    and it should... as well as start an investigation and audit their books. FOX needs to turn over all of it's raw videotapes (including any videos showing denial of service, if they exist), to local, state and federal authorities, as evidence... as in any criminal investigation.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Well it appears the agenda has been accomplished as federal funding has been denied a job well done. It would've have been nice though to show the ACORN visits of near 2 dozen when they were turned away. To the point of refusal that the police was needed to make them leave but then again persistence will get that job done. Great editing but it would also have been proper to show the whole taping of what ACORN did or didn't do.

    ACORN Head Bertha Lewis Vows Action on Employee Misconduct, But Warns Group Targeted by “Modern-Day McCarthyism”

    Cosmo wrote:
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    House votes to deny all federal funds for ACORN

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/ap_ ... ress_acorn
    ...
    and it should... as well as start an investigation and audit their books. FOX needs to turn over all of it's raw videotapes (including any videos showing denial of service, if they exist), to local, state and federal authorities, as evidence... as in any criminal investigation.
    AMY GOODMAN: How many different places did they go in ACORN? Also, by the way, how many employees do you have? How many times were they turned away? How many times were they, well, given advice, like they were here, that—captured on tape?


    BERTHA LEWIS: So, from what we can determine, they visited almost two dozen offices. And in two-thirds of them—you know, now, once we began to see this, because people didn’t really think much of it, when we polled everybody, we knew office—you know, in over a dozen offices, they were summarily told to leave.


    I might add that these folks really were very aggressive and refused to leave in several instances in at least three or four offices, and that’s why people said, “We’re going to call the police,” because they just were very aggressive and very pushy.


    We have almost 700 employees. So when they’re able to show maybe five or six, you know, less than one percent of our employees there, I would like to know any corporation that has 700 employees, if they could come and help us figure out how we keep 700 employees absolutely perfect all the time. I don’t know. But I certainly, under my watch, will make sure that our procedures are reviewed and that we do tighten this up and our intake processes and communication, as Juan pointed out, is more effective and better.


    Peace
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    g under p wrote:
    Well it appears the agenda has been accomplished as federal funding has been denied a job well done. It would've have been nice though to show the ACORN visits of near 2 dozen when they were turned away. To the point of refusal that the police was needed to make them leave but then again persistence will get that job done. Great editing but it would also have been proper to show the whole taping of what ACORN did or didn't do.

    ACORN Head Bertha Lewis Vows Action on Employee Misconduct, But Warns Group Targeted by “Modern-Day McCarthyism”

    Cosmo wrote:
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    House votes to deny all federal funds for ACORN

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/ap_ ... ress_acorn
    ...
    and it should... as well as start an investigation and audit their books. FOX needs to turn over all of it's raw videotapes (including any videos showing denial of service, if they exist), to local, state and federal authorities, as evidence... as in any criminal investigation.
    AMY GOODMAN: How many different places did they go in ACORN? Also, by the way, how many employees do you have? How many times were they turned away? How many times were they, well, given advice, like they were here, that—captured on tape?


    BERTHA LEWIS: So, from what we can determine, they visited almost two dozen offices. And in two-thirds of them—you know, now, once we began to see this, because people didn’t really think much of it, when we polled everybody, we knew office—you know, in over a dozen offices, they were summarily told to leave.


    I might add that these folks really were very aggressive and refused to leave in several instances in at least three or four offices, and that’s why people said, “We’re going to call the police,” because they just were very aggressive and very pushy.


    We have almost 700 employees. So when they’re able to show maybe five or six, you know, less than one percent of our employees there, I would like to know any corporation that has 700 employees, if they could come and help us figure out how we keep 700 employees absolutely perfect all the time. I don’t know. But I certainly, under my watch, will make sure that our procedures are reviewed and that we do tighten this up and our intake processes and communication, as Juan pointed out, is more effective and better.


    Peace
    ...
    Which is why FOX News and the people responsible for the 'Sting Operation' need to turn over ALL of their full, unedited raw tapes as evidence. Both can be held liable in civil courts if these reports are found to be fraudulant.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2009/09/18/acorn/


    An interesting take on the Acorn situation.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    Well then they’re not doing their job as Congress members then.
    Vote them out.
    Protests outside their office.
    Etc.


    You really believe that every congress member has read every bill?

    Not a chance in hell.

    Should they? Absoultely.
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