ACORN BUSTED!!

Cosmo

Okay... so start an investigation against ACORN and audit their books.
What's the big deal?

Sludge Factory

blondieblue227 wrote:

My news station is better than yours!
That’s a silly argument. No news network is a 100% credible these days. It’s a shame. Because if all of them are jaded, who’s out there truly helping Americans stay informed?
They are like instigators on the playground. They stir up shit and step away and snicker while a fight breaks out.

I will go as far to say they hurt America more than help it.

I think you hit the nail on the head here.

yoke

Tapes released

Baltimore
Washington
and now I heard in NYC(I haven't seen this one yet)

I thought Acorn said that it was an isolated incident and that the filmakers are just trying to smear the organization. Honestly, 1 office does it it could be those people, a 2nd place has the same problem you can chalk it up to coincidence but now a 3rd tape is released of another office. Sorry this seems to me like its a Standard Work Practice and not some rogue employees. There is something very wrong with Acorn and they need to be investigated period. This group gets a lot of tax money and they need to be held accountable for what they are doing.


"“The portrayal is false and defamatory and an attempt at ‘gotcha journalism,’” said Scott Levenson, a spokesman at ACORN’s national offices, told CNN. “This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed. ACORN wants to see the full video before commenting further.”

Cosmo

yoke wrote:

Tapes released

Baltimore
Washington
and now I heard in NYC(I haven't seen this one yet)

I thought Acorn said that it was an isolated incident and that the filmakers are just trying to smear the organization. Honestly, 1 office does it it could be those people, a 2nd place has the same problem you can chalk it up to coincidence but now a 3rd tape is released of another office. Sorry this seems to me like its a Standard Work Practice and not some rogue employees. There is something very wrong with Acorn and they need to be investigated period. This group gets a lot of tax money and they need to be held accountable for what they are doing.


"“The portrayal is false and defamatory and an attempt at ‘gotcha journalism,’” said Scott Levenson, a spokesman at ACORN’s national offices, told CNN. “This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed. ACORN wants to see the full video before commenting further.”

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That's how I feel... if there is criminal wrongdoing... investigate and prosecute the offenders. Audit the organization's books and reveal the money trail.
And Fox needs to be responsible, too. If these were 3 out of 3 offices where this practice is going on, then there needs to be a wider investigation. If this is 3 out of 257 offices investigated by FOX News.... they need to make all 257 unedited tapes made available for viewing for a fair and balanced perspective.

blondieblue227

Thanks for the props people.

This thing about illegal immigrants and Wilson hollering lair...
Obama said illegal aren’t covered and people are STILL quoting from the bill saying it’s in there.
WTF?!
Is it or isn’t it?

If these smart people they get to talk on the news can’t read a bill properly, what the hell, let them all say whatever they want!

Jon Stewart needs to bust this one up like he did with the death panel lady. Hehehe!

Oh…and I hate polls. Because you can finagle numbers any way you want them but did you see the new one? Nearly two-thirds — 63 percent — of Americans surveyed by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press believe that news stories are often inaccurate
http://www.azstarnet.com/news/308922

Cosmo

blondieblue227 wrote:

Thanks for the props people.

This thing about illegal immigrants and Wilson hollering lair...
Obama said illegal aren’t covered and people are STILL quoting from the bill saying it’s in there.
WTF?!
Is it or isn’t it?

If these smart people they get to talk on the news can’t read a bill properly, what the hell, let them all say whatever they want!

Jon Stewart needs to bust this one up like he did with the death panel lady. Hehehe!

Oh…and I hate polls. Because you can finagle numbers any way you want them but did you see the new one? Nearly two-thirds — 63 percent — of Americans surveyed by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press believe that news stories are often inaccurate
http://www.azstarnet.com/news/308922

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Source: Library of Congress of the United States Of America - House Bills and Resolutions

HR 3200 - Subtitle C--Individual Affordability Credits
SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.
"Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."

ref. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas
Type in 'HR 3200' in the search field.

blondieblue227

cosmo, thanks for helping my lazyass out again.

Cosmo

blondieblue227 wrote:

cosmo, thanks for helping my lazyass out again.

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No prob.
I use that website all the time because i don't trust soundbites on radio or television and i want the read the full text myself, rather than getting an interpreted opinion from some so-called pundit.
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So, Obama's statement was correct... the Bill specifiaclly states it in the referenced Section. It was nOT a lie, and Rep. Wilson mis-spoke.
however, I have heard and read where the Rush Hannity spokesmen have been touting that there are no specifics on how to enforce this section. Like, it somehow validates Rep. Wilson's accusation.
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The answers is: That is what the fucking assholes in Congress are supposed to work out!!! It is their fucking JOB to work out the fine details of the Bill... in this case, the regulatory process to dechipher who is qualified to receive Federal credit and who is not. That is what WE pay them to do!!!
So... fucking Joe Wilson needs to read the fucking bill and think about ways we can figure out who gets it and who doesn't. Get to WORK JOE FUCKHEAD WILSON or we will FIRE YOUR SORRY ASS!!!

darthvedder81

TriumphantAngel wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

Just thought I would let you all know that ACORN got busted for housing a so called prostitute with our tax dollars along with a bunch of 13 year old girls that were also going to be prostitutes. I know most of you don't know about this because you don't watch FOXNEWS and those liberal main stream media stations would never play it because it might make Obama look a little shady. If you want the truth....watch FOX, that is becoming obvious these days.

hopefully they will get prosecuted..

i don't really watch much faux news, but i have read some books. does that count?

That second fake book is hilarious given the fact that homeschoolers very regularly whip the asses of public and private school students in standardized tests.

OnTheEdge

blackredyellow wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

If it's so ridiculous then how come your liberal news stations won't talk about it?

Both "liberal" cable news sites had it...
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/10/ ... newssearch
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32789277/ns/us_news-life/

And I have MSNBC on at work most of the day, and I've seen it on there...



Just because you don't see it on another network, doesn't mean it wasn't there...

one of the biggest tax coruption scandals going on and this is how it's laid out FOX 133 times, CNN 90 times, MSNBC 10 times, ABC 2 times, CBS 1 time, NBC 2 times, NY Times 17 times, Washington Post 10 times, Wall St Journal 5 times. There comes a point where they have to report because when three days pass they start getting called out on it.

OnTheEdge

yoke wrote:

Tapes released

Baltimore
Washington
and now I heard in NYC(I haven't seen this one yet)

I thought Acorn said that it was an isolated incident and that the filmakers are just trying to smear the organization. Honestly, 1 office does it it could be those people, a 2nd place has the same problem you can chalk it up to coincidence but now a 3rd tape is released of another office. Sorry this seems to me like its a Standard Work Practice and not some rogue employees. There is something very wrong with Acorn and they need to be investigated period. This group gets a lot of tax money and they need to be held accountable for what they are doing.


"“The portrayal is false and defamatory and an attempt at ‘gotcha journalism,’” said Scott Levenson, a spokesman at ACORN’s national offices, told CNN. “This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed. ACORN wants to see the full video before commenting further.”

Theres a new tape being released tomorow also 9/15/2009. Sorry main stream liberals but your getting the wool pulled over your eyes. America isn't about democrat and republican anymore. It goes deeper than that. Our government is corupt(yes people....even Obama) and something needs to be done.

OnTheEdge

Cosmo wrote:

yoke wrote:

Tapes released

Baltimore
Washington
and now I heard in NYC(I haven't seen this one yet)

I thought Acorn said that it was an isolated incident and that the filmakers are just trying to smear the organization. Honestly, 1 office does it it could be those people, a 2nd place has the same problem you can chalk it up to coincidence but now a 3rd tape is released of another office. Sorry this seems to me like its a Standard Work Practice and not some rogue employees. There is something very wrong with Acorn and they need to be investigated period. This group gets a lot of tax money and they need to be held accountable for what they are doing.


"“The portrayal is false and defamatory and an attempt at ‘gotcha journalism,’” said Scott Levenson, a spokesman at ACORN’s national offices, told CNN. “This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed. ACORN wants to see the full video before commenting further.”

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That's how I feel... if there is criminal wrongdoing... investigate and prosecute the offenders. Audit the organization's books and reveal the money trail.
And Fox needs to be responsible, too. If these were 3 out of 3 offices where this practice is going on, then there needs to be a wider investigation. If this is 3 out of 257 offices investigated by FOX News.... they need to make all 257 unedited tapes made available for viewing for a fair and balanced perspective.

Wow Cosmo, I actualy agree on something with you....lol

blondieblue227

Cosmo wrote:

The answers is: That is what the fucking assholes in Congress are supposed to work out!!! It is their fucking JOB to work out the fine details of the Bill... in this case, the regulatory process to dechipher who is qualified to receive Federal credit and who is not. That is what WE pay them to do!!!

i agree and am fed up with them as much as you are.
crack them heads together. work on healthcare. get your heads out of your asses.

Cosmo

mb262200 wrote:

Wow Cosmo, I actualy agree on something with you....lol

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Then, you agree... If this is really a legitimate cause for investigation... FOX News needs to turn over all of its tapes to the county's District Attorney's Offices and let THEM do the investigation... rather than trying this thing on the airwaves, right?
Well... how are they doing with that?

OnTheEdge

Cosmo wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

Wow Cosmo, I actualy agree on something with you....lol

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Then, you agree... If this is really a legitimate cause for investigation... FOX News needs to turn over all of its tapes to the county's District Attorney's Offices and let THEM do the investigation... rather than trying this thing on the airwaves, right?
Well... how are they doing with that?

yes i do agree that fox should turn over all tapes. of course i do. i watch fox, i never claimed evrything they said was true. Can YOU say that about liberal news????

OnTheEdge

Sludge Factory wrote:

blondieblue227 wrote:

My news station is better than yours!
That’s a silly argument. No news network is a 100% credible these days. It’s a shame. Because if all of them are jaded, who’s out there truly helping Americans stay informed?
They are like instigators on the playground. They stir up shit and step away and snicker while a fight breaks out.

I will go as far to say they hurt America more than help it.

I think you hit the nail on the head here.

I know your all going to laugh at this but Glenn Beck has truly been becoming very centered. He's talking about Republicans and Dems and that it's all corupt and we all need to come together. But I know you guys don't want to hear that because he doesn't like Obama and thats all against your religous beliefs, so you would never give him a listen anyway.

tybird

blondieblue227 wrote:

My news station is better than yours!
That’s a silly argument. No news network is a 100% credible these days. It’s a shame. Because if all of them are jaded, who’s out there truly helping Americans stay informed?
They are like instigators on the playground. They stir up shit and step away and snicker while a fight breaks out.

I will go as far to say they hurt America more than help it.

The news is no longer about truth and justice....it's about ratings and advertising dollars....the majority of "journalists" are in for the book deals, their own show and pure old-fashioned ego. :evil:

blondieblue227

What are the most unbiased new shows out there?

PBS
BBC

Cosmo

mb262200 wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

Wow Cosmo, I actualy agree on something with you....lol

...
Then, you agree... If this is really a legitimate cause for investigation... FOX News needs to turn over all of its tapes to the county's District Attorney's Offices and let THEM do the investigation... rather than trying this thing on the airwaves, right?
Well... how are they doing with that?

yes i do agree that fox should turn over all tapes. of course i do. i watch fox, i never claimed evrything they said was true. Can YOU say that about liberal news????

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Who said anything about the television media? Not me. Why do you think I post things such as the House Bill from the Library of Congress for you to read? So, you can make up you OWN mind. Go to the source... that's my motto.
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And again... can you tell me how everyone other than FOX is 'Liberal'? I never figured that one out.

Cosmo

blondieblue227 wrote:

What are the most unbiased new shows out there?

PBS
BBC

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Aren't those the public option for television?
Well, them and CSPAN.
Somehow... I just don't see PBS and CSPAN driving CBS or HBO out of business.