i remember being in middle school, my best friend's dad worked near the WTC and when we all found out about the planes she tried calling him (this was before everyone had a cell phone so she had to keep borrowing teachers' phones) but never got through. she kept calling and found out he was ok at around 1pm, so for like 4 or 5 hours she didn't know if he was dead or alive. the sheer magnitude of the whole day didn't even hit me until i came home and on the news they kept showing footage of people dying and the buildings going on fire and falling down...
i'm 100% sure that's the reason why everyone hated/picked on/fought with my friend, a Jordanian girl named Batool. She got into so many fights that when i playfully tapped her leg with my foot (while smiling at her) she grabbed me and spat in my face. you thought junior high was bad, try being from the middle east after 9/11 at THE worst school in the district (we had pregnant 17 year olds and people who have been to jail with tattoos and bullet wounds. really.)
I am pretty sure that anyone who has been asking for simple - no ANY - answers from leaders who would not take ANY responsibility for the failures on 9/11 are 110 percent as outraged as you with the loss of life of their fellow Americans and innocent citizens of the world that day. Their rage was tempered by the need for knowledge first, and looking back after the disasterous decisions to go into Iraq, it is clearly evident that these questions should have been fielded long ago... Rather than sit here and tell them to shut up and call them (me included) crazy, why not take a simple fucking step back and finally realize that it is okay to question elected officials and that when you are told time and time again to go home and not worry about anything, you begin to doubt the motive of those that were in control for 9 months and failed horrifically to protect us. Not to mention, after years of allowing your leaders to not only never answer direct questions (remember, not a single person in the administration got fired for their incompetence) and after all the profit that was reaped by those that failed us, there are questions left unanswered. If there was an attack today, you think you would be satisfied with Obama never answering anything, or going into a meeting about the attacks where no transcript was produced, not under oath and holding the hand of Joe Biden?? No, you would say Obama has been in office long enough, and it is all his fault. Fuck, you already want to rewrite history and say this is his economy!!!! So, if you demand Obama to right this economy and to answer every question how can you not understand we want simple answers to some fucked up situations/occurances. I dont think it was done on purpose, and I don't think the Bush administration was competent enough to blow up a mailbox without getting caught....but I do think there was complete incompetence on the part of those governing who admittedly have nothing but disdain for government. And, if we asked questions then, we would not have had the level of failures that followed...the economy, the war in Iraq, katrina, diplomacy, 9 billion unaccounted for in Iraq, the banking crisis, the energy crisis........I am sorry, but had you guys not been so willing to allow the Bush administration to do as they pleased (remember, they have a fetish for unregulated free market in every area...) we would not be where we are today. Not only that, but you let them off the hook entirely by shifting any blame to the Obama administration.. So, today is not a good day?? Today is not a good day to ask questions? Tell me when is? Please tell me what day you are free and open to hearing anything other than what is comfortable to you..........
It is a patriotic duty to hold those in charge accountable. Funny how the people telling us to shut up and sit down 8 years after the fact can yell out "You Lie" to the President during his address to the joint sessions of Congress. That man should shut the fuck up. We have Republicans acting like 8 year olds, and they are committing what they preciously claimed to be treasonously unamerican: disrespecting the OFFICE of the PResidency.... It was claimed over and over again that before we even ask any questions, we, well, shouldnt as we cannot disrespect the office or the president. Yet some ignorant, lying congressman who gets the majority of his campaign contributions from the Health Care Industry is allowed to interrupt a speech by the PRESIDENT and it doesnt irk you one bit. IN fact, I watched republican after republican shift the blame and literally say that they want to see more of that.
I will go out on a limb here and guess that some of you have the feeling that Obama is not YOUR President and that something as small as that outburst is fine. Well, you then, need to leave your ignorance at the door and realize (this is a huge step) that you are the part of America that is antiquated and always on the wrong side of history.......you are probably wanting to say that Obama is not even American. The pride that stupid carries is so destructive. You cant argue with stupid..........
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Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
do you believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy too?? Gimme a break, ... especially today
Nope, and along those lines, I dont believe in Jesus. I know he and his dad are not on our side. So to fight in his name or with the belief that we are doing his will is pure, prideful, dangerously savage, extremist ignorance.
Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
do you believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy too?? Gimme a break, ... especially today
Nope, and along those lines, I dont believe in Jesus. I know he and his dad are not on our side. So to fight in his name or with the belief that we are doing his will is pure, prideful, dangerously savage, extremist ignorance.
You wanna know what ignorance is? Taking up this line of BS on this type of thread. Start your own thread about your conspiracy theories. This is is for remembering those that lost their lives on that day.
No one on this thread cares about your opinion on jesus, allah, or the easter bunny.
do you believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy too?? Gimme a break, ... especially today
Nope, and along those lines, I dont believe in Jesus. I know he and his dad are not on our side. So to fight in his name or with the belief that we are doing his will is pure, prideful, dangerously savage, extremist ignorance.
You wanna know what ignorance is? Taking up this line of BS on this type of thread. Start your own thread about your conspiracy theories. This is is for remembering those that lost their lives on that day.
No one on this thread cares about your opinion on jesus, allah, or the easter bunny.
Was my post before this one too long for you to read? I understand...baby steps...... You will get there some day.
Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
do you believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy too?? Gimme a break, ... especially today
Nope, and along those lines, I dont believe in Jesus. I know he and his dad are not on our side. So to fight in his name or with the belief that we are doing his will is pure, prideful, dangerously savage, extremist ignorance.
You wanna know what ignorance is? Taking up this line of BS on this type of thread. Start your own thread about your conspiracy theories. This is is for remembering those that lost their lives on that day.
No one on this thread cares about your opinion on jesus, allah, or the easter bunny.
Can I get one person to say they DO care about my opinion of the Easter Bunny?? Please.......
Circle One.....
I do Care about Matt's opinion on the Easter Bunny
I don't care about Matt's opinion on the Easter Bunny
Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
Nope, and along those lines, I dont believe in Jesus. I know he and his dad are not on our side. So to fight in his name or with the belief that we are doing his will is pure, prideful, dangerously savage, extremist ignorance.
You wanna know what ignorance is? Taking up this line of BS on this type of thread. Start your own thread about your conspiracy theories. This is is for remembering those that lost their lives on that day.
No one on this thread cares about your opinion on jesus, allah, or the easter bunny.
Was my post before this one too long for you to read? I understand...baby steps...... You will get there some day.
You going to use the old "give mommy back the computer now" line of bullshit next. Please. Grow up.
[/quote]You going to use the old "give mommy back the computer now" line of bullshit next. Please. Grow up.
Yep I read it. Thought it sucked.[/quote]
No, but that is a great line. I didnt know mommy let you use the computer when Dora the Explorer is still on.
Tell me what sucked about my first post? Just saying it sucked is my whole point. And please, now that you have found a crazy that would rather be thoughtful than have safety in numbers, dont take your toys and run home. Try to come up with anything resembling a coherent, thoughtful reply....Im here all week folks.
Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
You going to use the old "give mommy back the computer now" line of bullshit next. Please. Grow up.
Yep I read it. Thought it sucked.[/quote]
No, but that is a great line. I didnt know mommy let you use the computer when Dora the Explorer is still on.
Tell me what sucked about my first post? Just saying it sucked is my whole point. And please, now that you have found a crazy that would rather be thoughtful than have safety in numbers, dont take your toys and run home. Try to come up with anything resembling a coherent, thoughtful reply....Im here all week folks.[/quote]
You are totally missing the point. This thread isn't for this discussion, that's the point. So I'm done helping you derail. Have a nice day.
But first....even though I'll prove myself wrong....I can't help it....you gotta tell me if you believe in the Easter Bunny???????????? :shock: :shock: :shock: I'm on pins and neddles here......
And now back to the topic....I can't imagine losing a loved one...spouse, father, mother, child...in the blink of an eye...with no way of knowing and no goodbye. Just plain sad.
A left winger version of a right winger idiot. Only thoughtful, creative, damn sexy, a cage fighter and a small business owner........oh, and not repressed sexually or a closet homosexual,...... plus I respect women and love diversity.
So, not a version of anything right wing.....sorry.....I should have left it alone after the first three words.
Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
I thought this thread was a link to Eddie and Neil playing Long Road......a tribute to heroes....all the biggest heroes imaginable.
For the record: My heart fills up with pride and anger just like all of the rest of the people here. I will forever shout that we (you and I) are not the enemies.....but that message never seems to resonate....maybe I need to approach it differently....who knows.
I, too, am thinking about every person that lost someone today. If you read all my posts there is definitely a theme....I have nothing but respect for those brave soldiers and public protectors, and I feel I can repay them by defending them the way I know how......making sure they are never abused by being sent into harms way for something other than true national security etc. simple.
The disinformation out there is what kills me.....the hatred for men who fight their whole lives (at a level I am not close to capable of) get no respect and no honest reflections. For example...Ted Kennedy....just read this, it will shock you.....many believe he was anti-american somehow.....when in reality, he alone, fought for every single thing we would want our service men and women (and transgendered...hahaha...just joking, lighten up) to have.....not once, but his WHOLE LIFE......unlike those that are labeled as "pro-troop"
For some reason, IMO, the people that do the actual work to protect our soldiers are branded as the ones working against them. It is because they dont sell themselves and rattle the loudest...they have work to do...?? I distrust everyone equally....it really isnt that hard to find out who has America's interest in mind if you turn down the radio and look into your self.
And, I am undecided on the easter bunny.........
Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
I think it's disrespectful to mention the people who died on 9/11 and ignore the people who died as a result of America using 9/11 to justify illegal wars - namely the hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the millions who have been made refugees, and the millions more who have had their lives ruined.
My friend's father was killed in the towers on 9/11, we were only in middle school at the time, it was very sad, so i can definitely empathize with those who lost loved ones in the attacks, but that doesn't mean we should forget all those who were killed because of our country acting irresponsibly, to say the least.
edit: nor should we forget the people living in our country who have been affected by racial profiling and by laws like the PATRIOT ACT.
Vedderwt, Why are you acting like a child on a thread created to remember and respect the victims of 9/11?
How am I acting like a child? I wrote a long post about how I support the same exact things as everyone else that has written on here, and I defended some of the people that were being directly called "crazies" or idiots, then I got called an idiot and I defended myself, so I am the child?
Why are you acting like a salad face?
Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
I think it's disrespectful to mention the people who died on 9/11 and ignore the people who died as a result of America using 9/11 to justify illegal wars - namely the hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the millions who have been made refugees, and the millions more who have had their lives ruined.
My friend's father was killed in the towers on 9/11, we were only in middle school at the time, it was very sad, so i can definitely empathize with those who lost loved ones in the attacks, but that doesn't mean we should forget all those who were killed because of our country acting irresponsibly, to say the least.
edit: nor should we forget the people living in our country who have been affected by racial profiling and by laws like the PATRIOT ACT.
Forgot to mention we shouldn't forget those in the first Iraq war.
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*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Vedderwt, Why are you acting like a child on a thread created to remember and respect the victims of 9/11?
How am I acting like a child? I wrote a long post about how I support the same exact things as everyone else that has written on here, and I defended some of the people that were being directly called "crazies" or idiots, then I got called an idiot and I defended myself, so I am the child?
Why are you acting like a salad face?
I don't see the need to discuss conspiracy theories, what the administration did wrong, political beliefs, Jesus or make jokes on a thread dedicated to remembering the victims of the attacks. 3,000 families were impacted by this and if one were to stumble on this board I would imagine they would be thoroughly insulted.
Today is a day to remember the victims and support the families that are living the tragedy.
Vedderwt, Why are you acting like a child on a thread created to remember and respect the victims of 9/11?
How am I acting like a child? I wrote a long post about how I support the same exact things as everyone else that has written on here, and I defended some of the people that were being directly called "crazies" or idiots, then I got called an idiot and I defended myself, so I am the child?
Why are you acting like a salad face?
I don't see the need to discuss conspiracy theories, what the administration did wrong, political beliefs, Jesus or make jokes on a thread dedicated to remembering the victims of the attacks. 3,000 families were impacted by this and if one were to stumble on this board I would imagine they would be thoroughly insulted.
Today is a day to remember the victims and support the families that are living the tragedy.
This thread had a link to Eddie Vedder and Neil Young playing Long Road??!! There was no commentary about what it was about.......someone posted some lyrics, and then someone posted a statue of Mary or Jesus , then someone posted a picture of a banner and everyone went crazy.... THEN, everyone started saying "What, do you believe in the easter bunny too...." "I should have known the crazies and idiots would show up, at least they are out numbered". Go read the progression and tell me where I am so out of place.
My response addressed all of this and explained my side. If anyone is offended by my beliefs, they have that right. The last thing I will ever do is refrain from expressing myself because you dont want me to. I dont think I am disrespecting a single rational person, but to those that are so entrenched with a certain way of thinking, I am sure that I am....and I dont worry about that. If you would read my first post and look at the progression since then, you have no legs to stand on.....I support and honor every fallen hero and I do it in ways other than throwing a sticker on my car and going back to my normal life......
Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
This thread had a link to Eddie Vedder and Neil Young playing Long Road??!! There was no commentary about what it was about.......someone posted some lyrics, and then someone posted a statue of Mary or Jesus , then someone posted a picture of a banner and everyone went crazy.... THEN, everyone started saying "What, do you believe in the easter bunny too...." "I should have known the crazies and idiots would show up, at least they are out numbered". Go read the progression and tell me where I am so out of place.
My response addressed all of this and explained my side. If anyone is offended by my beliefs, they have that right. The last thing I will ever do is refrain from expressing myself because you dont want me to. I dont think I am disrespecting a single rational person, but to those that are so entrenched with a certain way of thinking, I am sure that I am....and I dont worry about that. If you would read my first post and look at the progression since then, you have no legs to stand on.....I support and honor every fallen hero and I do it in ways other than throwing a sticker on my car and going back to my normal life......
I almost entirely agree with your original post. It's the nonsense after it and the fact I didn't/don't think it belongs on this thread that I disagree with.
I almost entirely agree with your original post. It's the nonsense after it and the fact I didn't/don't think it belongs on this thread that I disagree with.
Gotcha....... I guess I was fine to let it degenerate further since my whole point is that one side won't listen to ANYTHING and wont reply with anything thoughtful or substantive....people said nothing in response other than their well thought out insult that I am idiot and they read my post buy it sucked. It may have, but say why.....so, I get your point...I guess I just don't see this thread dedicated to one thing and that the degeneration is actually an endemic result to every genuine approach to anything even closely resembling communication on the topics at hand. Still, your point is well taken.
Formally known as Tackalac before being formally known as Vedderwt,,,,....release my old name and posts....
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
I just spoke to a friend in NY who's best friends father died on this day. the family is still devastated. unreal that people on this board want deflect attention to the one day of the year we honor them. this board is a disgrace sometimes.
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i'm 100% sure that's the reason why everyone hated/picked on/fought with my friend, a Jordanian girl named Batool. She got into so many fights that when i playfully tapped her leg with my foot (while smiling at her) she grabbed me and spat in my face. you thought junior high was bad, try being from the middle east after 9/11 at THE worst school in the district (we had pregnant 17 year olds and people who have been to jail with tattoos and bullet wounds. really.)
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I am pretty sure that anyone who has been asking for simple - no ANY - answers from leaders who would not take ANY responsibility for the failures on 9/11 are 110 percent as outraged as you with the loss of life of their fellow Americans and innocent citizens of the world that day. Their rage was tempered by the need for knowledge first, and looking back after the disasterous decisions to go into Iraq, it is clearly evident that these questions should have been fielded long ago... Rather than sit here and tell them to shut up and call them (me included) crazy, why not take a simple fucking step back and finally realize that it is okay to question elected officials and that when you are told time and time again to go home and not worry about anything, you begin to doubt the motive of those that were in control for 9 months and failed horrifically to protect us. Not to mention, after years of allowing your leaders to not only never answer direct questions (remember, not a single person in the administration got fired for their incompetence) and after all the profit that was reaped by those that failed us, there are questions left unanswered. If there was an attack today, you think you would be satisfied with Obama never answering anything, or going into a meeting about the attacks where no transcript was produced, not under oath and holding the hand of Joe Biden?? No, you would say Obama has been in office long enough, and it is all his fault. Fuck, you already want to rewrite history and say this is his economy!!!! So, if you demand Obama to right this economy and to answer every question how can you not understand we want simple answers to some fucked up situations/occurances. I dont think it was done on purpose, and I don't think the Bush administration was competent enough to blow up a mailbox without getting caught....but I do think there was complete incompetence on the part of those governing who admittedly have nothing but disdain for government. And, if we asked questions then, we would not have had the level of failures that followed...the economy, the war in Iraq, katrina, diplomacy, 9 billion unaccounted for in Iraq, the banking crisis, the energy crisis........I am sorry, but had you guys not been so willing to allow the Bush administration to do as they pleased (remember, they have a fetish for unregulated free market in every area...) we would not be where we are today. Not only that, but you let them off the hook entirely by shifting any blame to the Obama administration.. So, today is not a good day?? Today is not a good day to ask questions? Tell me when is? Please tell me what day you are free and open to hearing anything other than what is comfortable to you..........
It is a patriotic duty to hold those in charge accountable. Funny how the people telling us to shut up and sit down 8 years after the fact can yell out "You Lie" to the President during his address to the joint sessions of Congress. That man should shut the fuck up. We have Republicans acting like 8 year olds, and they are committing what they preciously claimed to be treasonously unamerican: disrespecting the OFFICE of the PResidency.... It was claimed over and over again that before we even ask any questions, we, well, shouldnt as we cannot disrespect the office or the president. Yet some ignorant, lying congressman who gets the majority of his campaign contributions from the Health Care Industry is allowed to interrupt a speech by the PRESIDENT and it doesnt irk you one bit. IN fact, I watched republican after republican shift the blame and literally say that they want to see more of that.
I will go out on a limb here and guess that some of you have the feeling that Obama is not YOUR President and that something as small as that outburst is fine. Well, you then, need to leave your ignorance at the door and realize (this is a huge step) that you are the part of America that is antiquated and always on the wrong side of history.......you are probably wanting to say that Obama is not even American. The pride that stupid carries is so destructive. You cant argue with stupid..........
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
Nope, and along those lines, I dont believe in Jesus. I know he and his dad are not on our side. So to fight in his name or with the belief that we are doing his will is pure, prideful, dangerously savage, extremist ignorance.
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
You wanna know what ignorance is? Taking up this line of BS on this type of thread. Start your own thread about your conspiracy theories. This is is for remembering those that lost their lives on that day.
No one on this thread cares about your opinion on jesus, allah, or the easter bunny.
Was my post before this one too long for you to read? I understand...baby steps...... You will get there some day.
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
Can I get one person to say they DO care about my opinion of the Easter Bunny?? Please.......
Circle One.....
I do Care about Matt's opinion on the Easter Bunny
I don't care about Matt's opinion on the Easter Bunny
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
You going to use the old "give mommy back the computer now" line of bullshit next. Please. Grow up.
Yep I read it. Thought it sucked.
Yep I read it. Thought it sucked.[/quote]
No, but that is a great line. I didnt know mommy let you use the computer when Dora the Explorer is still on.
Tell me what sucked about my first post? Just saying it sucked is my whole point. And please, now that you have found a crazy that would rather be thoughtful than have safety in numbers, dont take your toys and run home. Try to come up with anything resembling a coherent, thoughtful reply....Im here all week folks.
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
Yep I read it. Thought it sucked.[/quote]
No, but that is a great line. I didnt know mommy let you use the computer when Dora the Explorer is still on.
Tell me what sucked about my first post? Just saying it sucked is my whole point. And please, now that you have found a crazy that would rather be thoughtful than have safety in numbers, dont take your toys and run home. Try to come up with anything resembling a coherent, thoughtful reply....Im here all week folks.[/quote]
You are totally missing the point. This thread isn't for this discussion, that's the point. So I'm done helping you derail. Have a nice day.
But first....even though I'll prove myself wrong....I can't help it....you gotta tell me if you believe in the Easter Bunny???????????? :shock: :shock: :shock: I'm on pins and neddles here......
And now back to the topic....I can't imagine losing a loved one...spouse, father, mother, child...in the blink of an eye...with no way of knowing and no goodbye. Just plain sad.
A left winger version of a right winger idiot. Only thoughtful, creative, damn sexy, a cage fighter and a small business owner........oh, and not repressed sexually or a closet homosexual,...... plus I respect women and love diversity.
So, not a version of anything right wing.....sorry.....I should have left it alone after the first three words.
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
you dont say?
For the record: My heart fills up with pride and anger just like all of the rest of the people here. I will forever shout that we (you and I) are not the enemies.....but that message never seems to resonate....maybe I need to approach it differently....who knows.
I, too, am thinking about every person that lost someone today. If you read all my posts there is definitely a theme....I have nothing but respect for those brave soldiers and public protectors, and I feel I can repay them by defending them the way I know how......making sure they are never abused by being sent into harms way for something other than true national security etc. simple.
The disinformation out there is what kills me.....the hatred for men who fight their whole lives (at a level I am not close to capable of) get no respect and no honest reflections. For example...Ted Kennedy....just read this, it will shock you.....many believe he was anti-american somehow.....when in reality, he alone, fought for every single thing we would want our service men and women (and transgendered...hahaha...just joking, lighten up) to have.....not once, but his WHOLE LIFE......unlike those that are labeled as "pro-troop"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 32x1737342
For some reason, IMO, the people that do the actual work to protect our soldiers are branded as the ones working against them. It is because they dont sell themselves and rattle the loudest...they have work to do...?? I distrust everyone equally....it really isnt that hard to find out who has America's interest in mind if you turn down the radio and look into your self.
And, I am undecided on the easter bunny.........
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
CMon, you couldnt have edited it correctly to make it look like I said "aN idiot."
Did I lose you.....here, take a deep breath (through your mouth of course) and go to this website for a few days....
http://www.dailygrammar.com/archive.shtml
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
My friend's father was killed in the towers on 9/11, we were only in middle school at the time, it was very sad, so i can definitely empathize with those who lost loved ones in the attacks, but that doesn't mean we should forget all those who were killed because of our country acting irresponsibly, to say the least.
edit: nor should we forget the people living in our country who have been affected by racial profiling and by laws like the PATRIOT ACT.
How am I acting like a child? I wrote a long post about how I support the same exact things as everyone else that has written on here, and I defended some of the people that were being directly called "crazies" or idiots, then I got called an idiot and I defended myself, so I am the child?
Why are you acting like a salad face?
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
Forgot to mention we shouldn't forget those in the first Iraq war.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
I don't see the need to discuss conspiracy theories, what the administration did wrong, political beliefs, Jesus or make jokes on a thread dedicated to remembering the victims of the attacks. 3,000 families were impacted by this and if one were to stumble on this board I would imagine they would be thoroughly insulted.
Today is a day to remember the victims and support the families that are living the tragedy.
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2009/0 ... index.html
I agree. After reading your response I do think we should think about everyone that has been directly impacted by the events.
agreed.
This thread had a link to Eddie Vedder and Neil Young playing Long Road??!! There was no commentary about what it was about.......someone posted some lyrics, and then someone posted a statue of Mary or Jesus , then someone posted a picture of a banner and everyone went crazy.... THEN, everyone started saying "What, do you believe in the easter bunny too...." "I should have known the crazies and idiots would show up, at least they are out numbered". Go read the progression and tell me where I am so out of place.
My response addressed all of this and explained my side. If anyone is offended by my beliefs, they have that right. The last thing I will ever do is refrain from expressing myself because you dont want me to. I dont think I am disrespecting a single rational person, but to those that are so entrenched with a certain way of thinking, I am sure that I am....and I dont worry about that. If you would read my first post and look at the progression since then, you have no legs to stand on.....I support and honor every fallen hero and I do it in ways other than throwing a sticker on my car and going back to my normal life......
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
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I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
I almost entirely agree with your original post. It's the nonsense after it and the fact I didn't/don't think it belongs on this thread that I disagree with.
Gotcha....... I guess I was fine to let it degenerate further since my whole point is that one side won't listen to ANYTHING and wont reply with anything thoughtful or substantive....people said nothing in response other than their well thought out insult that I am idiot and they read my post buy it sucked. It may have, but say why.....so, I get your point...I guess I just don't see this thread dedicated to one thing and that the degeneration is actually an endemic result to every genuine approach to anything even closely resembling communication on the topics at hand. Still, your point is well taken.
I saw a wino eating grapes, I said, "Dude, you have to wait"
Great, then you'll have no trouble in addressing just one of the 115 lies/omissions listed in this page.
I look forward to hearing your response.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?sto ... 3112738404
Edit: Though with respect to this thread, you should post your response on the other thread instead:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=109892