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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    Cosmo wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Students are the future of the country. In what way is trying to communicate with the younger, future generation "wrong"?

    Some people will read *only what they want to get out of a story*. In other words, if you don't like Obama, you will hardly be objective to anything he does, bottom line. One will always find something wrong with everything.

    Talking to younger people, like other presidents have done with the Just Say No campaign, like Cosmo mentioned, is not new. Nor is it something to be shocked about.
    ...
    Maybe the reason why they need to speak to the children is because the adults are too fucking stupid.
    amen cosmo. well said. exactly what i was thinking.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    norm wrote:
    here is the leter sent to principals:

    Dear Principal:

    In a recent interview with student reporter, Damon Weaver, President Obama announced that on September 8 – the first day of school for many children across America – he will deliver a national address directly to students on the importance of education. The President will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens.

    Since taking office, the President has repeatedly focused on education, even as the country faces two wars, the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression and major challenges on issues like energy and health care. The President believes that education is a critical part of building a new foundation for the American economy. Educated people are more active civically and better informed on issues affecting their lives, their families and their futures.

    This is the first time an American president has spoken directly to the nation’s school children about persisting and succeeding in school. We encourage you to use this historic moment to help your students get focused and begin the school year strong. I encourage you, your teachers, and students to join me in watching the President deliver this address on Tuesday, September 8, 2009. It will be broadcast live on the White House website http://www.whitehouse.gov at 1:00 p.m. eastern standard time.

    In advance of this address, we would like to share the following resources: a menu of classroom activities for students in grades preK-6 and for students in grades 7-12. These are ideas developed by and for teachers to help engage students and stimulate discussion on the importance of education in their lives. We are also staging a student video contest on education. Details of the video contest will be available on our website http://www.ed.gov in the coming weeks.

    On behalf of all Americans, I want to thank our educators who do society’s most important work by preparing our children for work and for life. No other task is more critical to our economic future and our social progress. I look forward to working with you in the months and years ahead to continue improving the quality of public education we provide all of our children.

    Sincerely,

    Arne Duncan
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    Okay... now, i agree with AcousticGuy because after reading that... I am now officially brainwashed to believe I am now a Nazi and ve must kell owl off der Jews... und ve must bekomen der Socialist und wearen der Lederhosen und drinken der LowenBrau... und invaden der Canada mit der blitzen Kreig. Heil Hitl... er... Obama!!! O-bomb-a, O-bomb-a... uber alles...
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    Cosmo wrote:
    norm wrote:
    here is the leter sent to principals:

    Dear Principal:

    In a recent interview with student reporter, Damon Weaver, President Obama announced that on September 8 – the first day of school for many children across America – he will deliver a national address directly to students on the importance of education. The President will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens.

    Since taking office, the President has repeatedly focused on education, even as the country faces two wars, the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression and major challenges on issues like energy and health care. The President believes that education is a critical part of building a new foundation for the American economy. Educated people are more active civically and better informed on issues affecting their lives, their families and their futures.

    This is the first time an American president has spoken directly to the nation’s school children about persisting and succeeding in school. We encourage you to use this historic moment to help your students get focused and begin the school year strong. I encourage you, your teachers, and students to join me in watching the President deliver this address on Tuesday, September 8, 2009. It will be broadcast live on the White House website http://www.whitehouse.gov at 1:00 p.m. eastern standard time.

    In advance of this address, we would like to share the following resources: a menu of classroom activities for students in grades preK-6 and for students in grades 7-12. These are ideas developed by and for teachers to help engage students and stimulate discussion on the importance of education in their lives. We are also staging a student video contest on education. Details of the video contest will be available on our website http://www.ed.gov in the coming weeks.

    On behalf of all Americans, I want to thank our educators who do society’s most important work by preparing our children for work and for life. No other task is more critical to our economic future and our social progress. I look forward to working with you in the months and years ahead to continue improving the quality of public education we provide all of our children.

    Sincerely,

    Arne Duncan
    ...
    Okay... now, i agree with AcousticGuy because after reading that... I am now officially brainwashed to believe I am now a Nazi and ve must kell owl off der Jews... und ve must bekomen der Socialist und wearen der Lederhosen und drinken der LowenBrau... und invaden der Canada mit der blitzen Kreig. Heil Hitl... er... Obama!!! O-bomb-a, O-bomb-a... uber alles...
    lol, that cracked me up. too funny cosmo :D
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    At this rate, the right will be all "outraged" out before the mid-term elections... You know things are getting out of control when you have an outright revolt against something that hasn't even happened yet.

    If in this video, Obama tells all of the kids to tell their parents to support healthcare reform or some policy issue, then maybe you have a point. But, more than likely it will be some pep talk about working hard, volunteering, staying in school blah blah blah...

    If anything it gives parents an opportunity to talk with their kid about politics.

    In a handful of months, the crazy right has turned into exactly what they ridiculed the crazy left for being in the Bush years and either are so partisan blind to see their hypocrisy or they don't even care.
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    hopefully the kids don't act like their parents at all those town meetings. i heard that one person got their fingers bite off yesterday.

    lets me honest, Obama is like a rock star and i think kids like him. if him giving a speech about how important education is maybe your highschool drop-out rate will lower. what a concept?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,889
    I personally like the idea of the president addressing the children. I, however, think that his speech should be available to be read prior to him giving it. Parents are a crazy breed and they do have the right to shield their kids from what they believe to be bad for them.


    All in all I think it's much ado about nothing. I think it a positive thing.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,889
    fife wrote:
    hopefully the kids don't act like their parents at all those town meetings. i heard that one person got their fingers bite off yesterday.

    lets me honest, Obama is like a rock star and i think kids like him. if him giving a speech about how important education is maybe your highschool drop-out rate will lower. what a concept?


    Let's not get crazy here. Obama giving a speech isn't going to lower the drop-out rate.

    Seriously, some people think Obama is a deity or a magician.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index

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    someone really close to my girlfriend spends $10,000 a year to put her 10 year old boy through private school - she basically spends nothing on herself so she can do that ... it's sad to me to think that public education is so bad at that level that she feels she has to pay that amount for her kid to have the opportunities obama speaks of ...
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    cincybearcat wrote:
    fife wrote:
    hopefully the kids don't act like their parents at all those town meetings. i heard that one person got their fingers bite off yesterday.

    lets me honest, Obama is like a rock star and i think kids like him. if him giving a speech about how important education is maybe your highschool drop-out rate will lower. what a concept?


    Let's not get crazy here. Obama giving a speech isn't going to lower the drop-out rate.

    Seriously, some people think Obama is a deity or a magician.

    i am not saying that it will thats why i put "if". i don't believe that Obama can do everything. i can speak for mtself and i once had a person who i respected talk to me about what i was doing with my life and what i should be doing and it did make me think about where i was going in life.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Forty years ago if the President of the U.S. wanted to address school children, there would have been very little opposition to it no matter what his political persuasion.

    Today, people just want to generally be offended by, opposed to, and basically disagreeable to anything and everything that goes on in the world.

    I don't like Obama one bit, but in my opinion people are just being foolish and argumentative for no valid reason.

    I don't think this is a big deal.

    I think children are generally and naturally democratic anyway.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,889
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Howabout we also stop taking our kids to church..


    Ummm...why exactly? And how is this similar?
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    edited September 2009
    I guess I should have reworded that... If we don't want our leaders talking to children for fear of indoctrinating them early, it would only be sensible for leaders of all movements not to speak directly to children.

    EDIT: And it's not like obama is going to be indoctrinating the children..
    Post edited by keeponrockin on
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I guess I should have reworded that... If we don't want our leaders talking to children for fear of indoctrinating them early, it would only be sensible for leaders of all movements not to speak directly to children.

    The obvious difference is that parents can decided to take their child to church or not.
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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    didn't the first Bush address kids in school about using drugs?

    didn't the second Bush have a school program called pennies for Afghanistan or something?
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I heart Scout Niblett wrote:
    didn't the first Bush address kids in school about using drugs?

    didn't the second Bush have a school program called pennies for Afghanistan or something?

    Yeah, but they weren't anti-american, terrorist loving, lying socialists, hellbent on indoctrinating our kids to their evil communist ways...






    Or at least that's how the growing wingnut element on the right sees it... they'd much prefer to indoctrinate their kids at home to their own crazy ways.
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    blackredyellow wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I guess I should have reworded that... If we don't want our leaders talking to children for fear of indoctrinating them early, it would only be sensible for leaders of all movements not to speak directly to children.

    The obvious difference is that parents can decided to take their child to church or not.
    Because telling kids to be responsible is much worse than spreading the hate that fuckers like Fallwell (I wish there was a hell for him to burn in) and those like him spread.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... indoctrin/
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,889
    keeponrockin wrote:
    blackredyellow wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I guess I should have reworded that... If we don't want our leaders talking to children for fear of indoctrinating them early, it would only be sensible for leaders of all movements not to speak directly to children.

    The obvious difference is that parents can decided to take their child to church or not.
    Because telling kids to be responsible is much worse than spreading the hate that fuckers like Fallwell (I wish there was a hell for him to burn in) and those like him spread.

    Umm..you are still missing the point. Parents are choosing to take their kids to church (or not take them), and choosing what church. So, it's a terrible argument in this thread.
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Okay... now, i agree with AcousticGuy because after reading that... I am now officially brainwashed to believe I am now a Nazi and ve must kell owl off der Jews... und ve must bekomen der Socialist und wearen der Lederhosen und drinken der LowenBrau... und invaden der Canada mit der blitzen Kreig. Heil Hitl... er... Obama!!! O-bomb-a, O-bomb-a... uber alles...
    Canada=Lebensraum :twisted:
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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,337
    Have no problem with this.

    I think it's funny how the republicans are getting all bent out of shape about this.



    I'm also pretty sure if Obama was ever caught sneezing and nobody blessed him, they'd all run for their lives as the demons have been released...

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