Ticketmaster, Van Halen and Scalpers scam fans

jps176

Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:

No offense, but if anyone on this board is honestly surprised that Rolling Stone would print a lie to protect the ticket/concert/ industry.............well, geez, ya shouldn't be...they are all eating off the same plate.....Pearl Jam (and very few others) are the exception in the industry, not the rule....... :oops:

They didn't. It was actually a criticism of how corrupt and scheming the ticket industry is. When I said "they" I meant the part of the article that was quoting ticketmaster sources, not Rolling Stone. They (Rolling Stone) did not defend the ticket industry in any way. But the Tickemaster claimed in the article, and havve repeated the same claim everywhere else... "Everyone has the same access to all tickets from the moment the go onsale." I always knew that was a lie... but never saw actual evidence. Until this Van Halen thing.

guacamolejoe

Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:

No offense, but if anyone on this board is honestly surprised that Rolling Stone would print a lie to protect the ticket/concert/ industry.............well, geez, ya shouldn't be...they are all eating off the same plate.....Pearl Jam (and very few others) are the exception in the industry, not the rule....... :oops:

So True, What Bullshit :evil: . This is one of the reasons we love PJ so much! F*ckn Ticketbastard, doesn't surprise me but makes me So Mad :twisted:. I think I may look for Dax :twisted:

cfbd68

guacamolejoe wrote:

Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:

No offense, but if anyone on this board is honestly surprised that Rolling Stone would print a lie to protect the ticket/concert/ industry.............well, geez, ya shouldn't be...they are all eating off the same plate.....Pearl Jam (and very few others) are the exception in the industry, not the rule....... :oops:

So True, What Bullshit :evil: . This is one of the reasons we love PJ so much! F*ckn Ticketbastard, doesn't surprise me but makes me So Mad :twisted:. I think I may look for Dax :twisted:

I'd like to take care of Dax & that ceo Azoff in a NY minute :twisted: . Now I'm getting madder :twisted: :twisted: , I might as well take care of Madoff too

norm

wow... evh and dlr are greedy douchebags... i'm shocked :roll:

Monster Rain

I'm not surprised at all that Van Halen was in on this. Maybe I should be, but I'm not surprised by anything Eddie and Alex do anymore. It's been pretty obvious that they've been all about money and nothing else since they decided to fire Sammy the first time and reunite with Dave for the first Greatest Hits CD. Follow that up with firing Dave, hiring Gary Cherone, firing Gary Cherone, re-hiring Sammy for another Greatest Hits set and tour, re-firing Sammy and firing Mike so they can hire Dave and Eddie's kid and it becomes clear that the Van Halen brothers are either completely insane or are just looking to lock up the band for themselves so they can keep more of the money. I wouldn't be shocked at all if they released an album with just Ed, Alex, and Wolfgang an no lead singer (or Ed singing, which would be a trainwreck if you heard his first attempt on VH3).

1STmammal2wearPants

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Ok...

What am I missing.....

The scalpers, with their computer technology, and $10,000 computer software, always find a way to get the best tickets, when they go onsale through ticketmaster.....right???

The scalpers ALWAYS make a ton of money off the tickets they buy......right????

Van Halen found a way to put some of this money in their own pocket......right???

Im just looking at it as....If you cant beat them, join them

UGH, and just when I thought there was finally a post where no one would possibly side with the wrongdoer...

Ladies and Gents, ........meet SPEEDY

hehehehehe.....

The scalpers are going to make the big money......Thats just a fact...

Van Halen found a way to put a percentage of that big money into their pockets.....

I gotta give them credit.....

But thats just me....

give em credit all you want....but it's basically giving them credit for being a bunch of sleazy bastards. if you advocate it, that's yer deal i guess........

jwillmo

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Ok...

What am I missing.....

The scalpers, with their computer technology, and $10,000 computer software, always find a way to get the best tickets, when they go onsale through ticketmaster.....right???

The scalpers ALWAYS make a ton of money off the tickets they buy......right????

Van Halen found a way to put some of this money in their own pocket......right???

Im just looking at it as....If you cant beat them, join them

Um, that would be a reasonable argument if they decided to do like Madonna or other artists who basically "auction" the best seats and charge huge amounts for good seats. At least they're up front about it. But VH was pretending like anyone had a chance to buy these but was giving them DIRECTLY TO THE SCALPERS. That's fucking fraud and you can't justify that.

And I don't think anyone disagrees that this an "If you can't beat em, join em" scenario. It's just that reasonable people think this is horrible creed to live by.

Dead Man Walking

prfctlefts wrote:

yeah I totally agree. I have lost all respect for this band.

You mean you had respect for them in the first place?

SPEEDY MCCREADY

1STmammal2wearPants wrote:

give em credit all you want....but it's basically giving them credit for being a bunch of sleazy bastards. if you advocate it, that's yer deal i guess........

I have 40 pearl jam concert tickets hanging on the wall, from every show I have attended...

They all have one thing in common.....

The word TICKETMASTER is printed on each and every one of them....

If you cant beat em......join em

josevolution

I'm more shocked that they racked in $90 mill, but not from my pocket i have never been a fan just could never taken them seriously at all ..

1STmammal2wearPants

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

1STmammal2wearPants wrote:

give em credit all you want....but it's basically giving them credit for being a bunch of sleazy bastards. if you advocate it, that's yer deal i guess........

I have 40 pearl jam concert tickets hanging on the wall, from every show I have attended...

They all have one thing in common.....

The word TICKETMASTER is printed on each and every one of them....

If you cant beat em......join em

right.....but bruce springsteen has ticketmaster plastered all over his tickets and didn't do it that way. in fact he ripped them a new ass and issued paperless tickets. this represents everything that's wrong with the music industry today.

Ledbetterman10

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Ok...

What am I missing.....

The scalpers, with their computer technology, and $10,000 computer software, always find a way to get the best tickets, when they go onsale through ticketmaster.....right???

The scalpers ALWAYS make a ton of money off the tickets they buy......right????

Van Halen found a way to put some of this money in their own pocket......right???

Im just looking at it as....If you cant beat them, join them

UGH, and just when I thought there was finally a post where no one would possibly side with the wrongdoer...

Ladies and Gents, ........meet SPEEDY

hehehehehe.....

The scalpers are going to make the big money......Thats just a fact...

Van Halen found a way to put a percentage of that big money into their pockets.....

I gotta give them credit.....

But thats just me....

I say fuck that......

A Van Halen tour done legit earns more than enough money for them to be happy....

This is just sleazy greed....

It's disrespectful to their paying fans....

It promotes scalping.....despite their claim that it's a counter to scalping.

Many people get shut out on ticketmaster because there's less tickets available than there should be...

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Some people are happy to pay $350 for a concert ticket.....

Some people are happy to pay $150 for a re-release of a record that is 20 years old.......

To each their own....

Get_Right

a. this is nothing new
b. LOTS of other bands do it-dont single out VH
c. VH has not been relevant since 1982, damn shame too, because they were one of the best
d. TM and LN are thinking up more and more ways to get more for the tickets, why should you and I be able to flip our seats and make a little coin?
e. its only a matter of time before all the best seats are simply auctioned off
f. did any of you read Trent Reznor's article, he specifically mentions this practice

Ledbetterman10

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Some people are happy to pay $350 for a concert ticket.....

To each their own....

Well I agree with this. But if I was a Van Halen fan who logged on for the ticketmaster sale and didn't get tickets...and later found out that the band themselves scalped 1,000 tickets.....I'd be pretty pissed off.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Had Pearl Jam done the same thing......I have a feeling 90% of the responses here would be.....


I am so glad that Eddie vedder an Pearl Jam have found a way to make additional money scalping their own tickets. Why should the scalpers make all the profit? Pearl Jam has given so much to their fans over the years, and donated so much to charity, its about time they took some of the profit for themselves. As a fan i would be willing to spend $1000.00 a ticket, if I knew 30% of the proceeds go directly to Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam.


Anyone disagree?

StevieG

Van Halen? Possibly the worst band in music history. Anyone who would pay to go see those clowns deserves to be scammed and ripped off. If I had VH tickets I would probably wipe my ass with them!!!

Solat13

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

1STmammal2wearPants wrote:

give em credit all you want....but it's basically giving them credit for being a bunch of sleazy bastards. if you advocate it, that's yer deal i guess........

I have 40 pearl jam concert tickets hanging on the wall, from every show I have attended...

They all have one thing in common.....

The word TICKETMASTER is printed on each and every one of them....

If you cant beat em......join em

Next month in Philly, your tix will say Comcast on them.

Ledbetterman10

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Had Pearl Jam done the same thing......I have a feeling 90% of the responses here would be.....


I am so glad that Eddie vedder an Pearl Jam have found a way to make additional money scalping their own tickets. Why should the scalpers make all the profit? Pearl Jam has given so much to their fans over the years, and donated so much to charity, its about time they took some of the profit for themselves. As a fan i would be willing to spend $1000.00 a ticket, if I knew 30% of the proceeds go directly to Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam.


Anyone disagree?

I totally disagree. This would be the last straw for me. I'd have to finally unveil my parody of "Habit" called "Sell-out"

Jeanwah

While everyone is busy ripping Van Halen to pieces and praising PJ for not doing something like this, re-read a very important paragraph...

The scam was said to be the brainchild of Van Halen manager Irving Azoff, who also now serves as Ticketmaster's CEO. Azoff is also behind the scheme to merge Ticketmaster with Live Nation, which is under review by the Justice Department. Critics and members of Congress have said that the proposed merger would create a monopoly over almost all aspects of the music business.

PJ has to go through Ticketmaster, so we're all at the mercy of possible scams, knowing the brain-child of VH's money making scheme is now in charge of it ALL. I find it extremely ignorant that people would rather not read the entire article and not understand what it means for all of us. It's not just about Van Halen.

Not to mention, how does everyone here know that this very same scam is not being practiced without our knowing, with many bands? Just a question to throw out there. We are all too trusting; us die-hard music lovers.