give em credit all you want....but it's basically giving them credit for being a bunch of sleazy bastards. if you advocate it, that's yer deal i guess........
I have 40 pearl jam concert tickets hanging on the wall, from every show I have attended...
They all have one thing in common.....
The word TICKETMASTER is printed on each and every one of them....
If you cant beat em......join em
right.....but bruce springsteen has ticketmaster plastered all over his tickets and didn't do it that way. in fact he ripped them a new ass and issued paperless tickets. this represents everything that's wrong with the music industry today.
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The scalpers, with their computer technology, and $10,000 computer software, always find a way to get the best tickets, when they go onsale through ticketmaster.....right???
The scalpers ALWAYS make a ton of money off the tickets they buy......right????
Van Halen found a way to put some of this money in their own pocket......right???
Im just looking at it as....If you cant beat them, join them
UGH, and just when I thought there was finally a post where no one would possibly side with the wrongdoer...
Ladies and Gents, ........meet SPEEDY
hehehehehe.....
The scalpers are going to make the big money......Thats just a fact...
Van Halen found a way to put a percentage of that big money into their pockets.....
I gotta give them credit.....
But thats just me....
I say fuck that......
A Van Halen tour done legit earns more than enough money for them to be happy....
This is just sleazy greed....
It's disrespectful to their paying fans....
It promotes scalping.....despite their claim that it's a counter to scalping.
Many people get shut out on ticketmaster because there's less tickets available than there should be...
a. this is nothing new
b. LOTS of other bands do it-dont single out VH
c. VH has not been relevant since 1982, damn shame too, because they were one of the best
d. TM and LN are thinking up more and more ways to get more for the tickets, why should you and I be able to flip our seats and make a little coin?
e. its only a matter of time before all the best seats are simply auctioned off
f. did any of you read Trent Reznor's article, he specifically mentions this practice
Some people are happy to pay $350 for a concert ticket.....
To each their own....
Well I agree with this. But if I was a Van Halen fan who logged on for the ticketmaster sale and didn't get tickets...and later found out that the band themselves scalped 1,000 tickets.....I'd be pretty pissed off.
Had Pearl Jam done the same thing......I have a feeling 90% of the responses here would be.....
I am so glad that Eddie vedder an Pearl Jam have found a way to make additional money scalping their own tickets. Why should the scalpers make all the profit? Pearl Jam has given so much to their fans over the years, and donated so much to charity, its about time they took some of the profit for themselves. As a fan i would be willing to spend $1000.00 a ticket, if I knew 30% of the proceeds go directly to Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam.
Anyone disagree?
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Van Halen? Possibly the worst band in music history. Anyone who would pay to go see those clowns deserves to be scammed and ripped off. If I had VH tickets I would probably wipe my ass with them!!!
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give em credit all you want....but it's basically giving them credit for being a bunch of sleazy bastards. if you advocate it, that's yer deal i guess........
I have 40 pearl jam concert tickets hanging on the wall, from every show I have attended...
They all have one thing in common.....
The word TICKETMASTER is printed on each and every one of them....
If you cant beat em......join em
Next month in Philly, your tix will say Comcast on them.
Had Pearl Jam done the same thing......I have a feeling 90% of the responses here would be.....
I am so glad that Eddie vedder an Pearl Jam have found a way to make additional money scalping their own tickets. Why should the scalpers make all the profit? Pearl Jam has given so much to their fans over the years, and donated so much to charity, its about time they took some of the profit for themselves. As a fan i would be willing to spend $1000.00 a ticket, if I knew 30% of the proceeds go directly to Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam.
Anyone disagree?
I totally disagree. This would be the last straw for me. I'd have to finally unveil my parody of "Habit" called "Sell-out"
While everyone is busy ripping Van Halen to pieces and praising PJ for not doing something like this, re-read a very important paragraph...
The scam was said to be the brainchild of Van Halen manager Irving Azoff, who also now serves as Ticketmaster's CEO. Azoff is also behind the scheme to merge Ticketmaster with Live Nation, which is under review by the Justice Department. Critics and members of Congress have said that the proposed merger would create a monopoly over almost all aspects of the music business.
PJ has to go through Ticketmaster, so we're all at the mercy of possible scams, knowing the brain-child of VH's money making scheme is now in charge of it ALL. I find it extremely ignorant that people would rather not read the entire article and not understand what it means for all of us. It's not just about Van Halen.
Not to mention, how does everyone here know that this very same scam is not being practiced without our knowing, with many bands? Just a question to throw out there. We are all too trusting; us die-hard music lovers.
Had Pearl Jam done the same thing......I have a feeling 90% of the responses here would be.....
I am so glad that Eddie vedder an Pearl Jam have found a way to make additional money scalping their own tickets. Why should the scalpers make all the profit? Pearl Jam has given so much to their fans over the years, and donated so much to charity, its about time they took some of the profit for themselves. As a fan i would be willing to spend $1000.00 a ticket, if I knew 30% of the proceeds go directly to Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam.
Anyone disagree?
Yup, many people would actually say something like that...
Had Pearl Jam done the same thing......I have a feeling 90% of the responses here would be.....
I am so glad that Eddie vedder an Pearl Jam have found a way to make additional money scalping their own tickets. Why should the scalpers make all the profit? Pearl Jam has given so much to their fans over the years, and donated so much to charity, its about time they took some of the profit for themselves. As a fan i would be willing to spend $1000.00 a ticket, if I knew 30% of the proceeds go directly to Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam.
Anyone disagree?
I totally disagree. This would be the last straw for me. I'd have to finally unveil my parody of "Habit" called "Sell-out"
While everyone is busy ripping Van Halen to pieces and praising PJ for not doing something like this, re-read a very important paragraph...
The scam was said to be the brainchild of Van Halen manager Irving Azoff, who also now serves as Ticketmaster's CEO. Azoff is also behind the scheme to merge Ticketmaster with Live Nation, which is under review by the Justice Department. Critics and members of Congress have said that the proposed merger would create a monopoly over almost all aspects of the music business.
PJ has to go through Ticketmaster, so we're all at the mercy of possible scams, knowing the brain-child of VH's money making scheme is now in charge of it ALL. I find it extremely ignorant that people would rather not read the entire article and not understand what it means for all of us. It's not just about Van Halen.
Not to mention, how does everyone here know that this very same scam is not being practiced without our knowing, with many bands? Just a question to throw out there. We are all too trusting; us die-hard music lovers.
well pj could go back to doing club tours or play in open fields if this ticketmaster scam gets really bad
I'm sure many bands that we all know and love are doing this
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i just wish that a large group of rock acts who actually have clout, PJ included, would try and fight this again. I mean i know it's probably just wishful thinking, but i think with all the bs that we've seen within our economic structure and how NO regulation leads to terrible consequences...maybe people would pay a little bit more attention to this. I know to a lot of politicians it's "just music" but it's evident that there's something highly wrong with this...
...too bad Rahm Emmanuel's brother is one of the big shots over at TM.
I have a feeling all bands are well aware of this because they are the ones people are paying to see. When bands set up tours, their promoters don't just pick prices themselves...the band knows what they will actually make. All the bands have to do is get together and do something about ticketmaster and live nation jackin' the prices. Even for this series of concerts in philly i was on stub hub and also spoke directly with a wannamaker agent a day or two before they went onsale and you could pick the seats i wanted. so I think everyone in the music industry is in on (or atleast aware of & not doing anything about) the high prices and scams. its just something we have to deal with as concert goers or stop going to concerts all together.
This kind of crap has been going on for a while now and it's not just the music industry, do a little research and find of what a SCAM that the Chicago Cubs front office does with their tickets, you basically can't buy Cubs tickets from the box office, they give them to the "ticket brokers" who have their little ticket booths that look like a box office and they sell them for 3 times the "face value" and split the profits.
At the Bruce Springsteen show here in Austin in April, it sold out right away, people were trying to sell tickets for $200.00 and $300.00, well the day of the concert they were selling them for (I'm not joking here) $10.00 a ticket for lower level seats. I had 2 extras I was trying to sell for $20.00 each and ended up eating them, I had one guy that was going to buy one and then a scalper tells him that he will sell him 2 tickets for $20.00, so I just went into the show with the tickets in my pocket.
I basically refuse to buy tickets now when they go on sale through Ticketmaster, I wait, I bought tickets to the Pearl Jam show in Seattle for both nights in section 106 and 103 a couple of weeks after they went on sale. If it's a local show here in Austin I just go to the venue and try to get in for what I can, especially after what I saw at the Bruce show. The problem is, when I started going to concerts in 1981, sure there were scalpers, but if tickets were say $15.00, they tried to sell them for $20 or $25, NOT $45.00, that's what happens now, tickets are say $50 or $75 and people try to resell then for $150 or $200, they are trying to make a 200% to 300% profit, I ain't playing that game.
I saw Grateful Dead over 150 times and I mail ordered for a lot of the shows I went to, they made the rules VERY anal to order them, you had to have a certain sized envelope, index card, print specific stuff on the outside of the envelope, etc., but it seemed to work good. VH should be ashamed of themselves for doing this crap, but I know they are not the only ones doing it, they just got caught. I will continue to go to concerts they way I am, I got into the Dylan, Willie Nelson, John Melloncamp show in Austin, 2 tickets for $60.00 total, face was $65.00 each, the funny thing is I bought them from a group of Livenation workers in the lot, they all had Livenation credentials around their necks and the tickets were comps because the had $0.00 were the price of the tickets should be.
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right.....but bruce springsteen has ticketmaster plastered all over his tickets and didn't do it that way. in fact he ripped them a new ass and issued paperless tickets. this represents everything that's wrong with the music industry today.
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2022 Camden
2024 MSG I, Fenway I, Fenway II
I say fuck that......
A Van Halen tour done legit earns more than enough money for them to be happy....
This is just sleazy greed....
It's disrespectful to their paying fans....
It promotes scalping.....despite their claim that it's a counter to scalping.
Many people get shut out on ticketmaster because there's less tickets available than there should be...
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Some people are happy to pay $150 for a re-release of a record that is 20 years old.......
To each their own....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
b. LOTS of other bands do it-dont single out VH
c. VH has not been relevant since 1982, damn shame too, because they were one of the best
d. TM and LN are thinking up more and more ways to get more for the tickets, why should you and I be able to flip our seats and make a little coin?
e. its only a matter of time before all the best seats are simply auctioned off
f. did any of you read Trent Reznor's article, he specifically mentions this practice
Well I agree with this. But if I was a Van Halen fan who logged on for the ticketmaster sale and didn't get tickets...and later found out that the band themselves scalped 1,000 tickets.....I'd be pretty pissed off.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
I am so glad that Eddie vedder an Pearl Jam have found a way to make additional money scalping their own tickets. Why should the scalpers make all the profit? Pearl Jam has given so much to their fans over the years, and donated so much to charity, its about time they took some of the profit for themselves. As a fan i would be willing to spend $1000.00 a ticket, if I knew 30% of the proceeds go directly to Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam.
Anyone disagree?
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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I totally disagree. This would be the last straw for me. I'd have to finally unveil my parody of "Habit" called "Sell-out"
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
PJ has to go through Ticketmaster, so we're all at the mercy of possible scams, knowing the brain-child of VH's money making scheme is now in charge of it ALL. I find it extremely ignorant that people would rather not read the entire article and not understand what it means for all of us. It's not just about Van Halen.
Not to mention, how does everyone here know that this very same scam is not being practiced without our knowing, with many bands? Just a question to throw out there. We are all too trusting; us die-hard music lovers.
well pj could go back to doing club tours or play in open fields if this ticketmaster scam gets really bad
I'm sure many bands that we all know and love are doing this
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
So they had plenty of empties to upgrade into? What does this mean?
...too bad Rahm Emmanuel's brother is one of the big shots over at TM.
the bigger surprise is that this story is not getting more attention.
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At the Bruce Springsteen show here in Austin in April, it sold out right away, people were trying to sell tickets for $200.00 and $300.00, well the day of the concert they were selling them for (I'm not joking here) $10.00 a ticket for lower level seats. I had 2 extras I was trying to sell for $20.00 each and ended up eating them, I had one guy that was going to buy one and then a scalper tells him that he will sell him 2 tickets for $20.00, so I just went into the show with the tickets in my pocket.
I basically refuse to buy tickets now when they go on sale through Ticketmaster, I wait, I bought tickets to the Pearl Jam show in Seattle for both nights in section 106 and 103 a couple of weeks after they went on sale. If it's a local show here in Austin I just go to the venue and try to get in for what I can, especially after what I saw at the Bruce show. The problem is, when I started going to concerts in 1981, sure there were scalpers, but if tickets were say $15.00, they tried to sell them for $20 or $25, NOT $45.00, that's what happens now, tickets are say $50 or $75 and people try to resell then for $150 or $200, they are trying to make a 200% to 300% profit, I ain't playing that game.
I saw Grateful Dead over 150 times and I mail ordered for a lot of the shows I went to, they made the rules VERY anal to order them, you had to have a certain sized envelope, index card, print specific stuff on the outside of the envelope, etc., but it seemed to work good. VH should be ashamed of themselves for doing this crap, but I know they are not the only ones doing it, they just got caught. I will continue to go to concerts they way I am, I got into the Dylan, Willie Nelson, John Melloncamp show in Austin, 2 tickets for $60.00 total, face was $65.00 each, the funny thing is I bought them from a group of Livenation workers in the lot, they all had Livenation credentials around their necks and the tickets were comps because the had $0.00 were the price of the tickets should be.
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