Ticketmaster, Van Halen and Scalpers scam fans

pjhawks

http://www.wmmr.com/music/news/Story.aspx?ID=1135648

when bands act like this it totally undermines what PJ tried to do back in the mid 90s. how is this not criminal?

WaveCameCrashin

yeah I totally agree. I have lost all respect for this band.

mfc2006

well, now they suck even more. i didn't know that was possible, but i guess it is!

Bathgate66

The scam was said to be the brainchild of Van Halen manager Irving Azoff, who also now serves as Ticketmaster's CEO. Azoff is also behind the scheme to merge Ticketmaster with Live Nation, which is under review by the Justice Department. Critics and members of Congress have said that the proposed merger would create a monopoly over almost all aspects of the music business.

emptying one pocket to fill the other,

f'n douchebags

AllNiteThing

Eddie's a genius.





And a massive douche.

theboxerorthebag

this merger if it does happen will make ticket buying an even worse experience than it already is. Hopefully it will be denied.

Bathgate66 wrote:

The scam was said to be the brainchild of Van Halen manager Irving Azoff, who also now serves as Ticketmaster's CEO. Azoff is also behind the scheme to merge Ticketmaster with Live Nation, which is under review by the Justice Department. Critics and members of Congress have said that the proposed merger would create a monopoly over almost all aspects of the music business.

emptying one pocket to fill the other,

f'n douchebags

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

it's like Robin Hood, only with millionaire scumbags, taking turns fucking everyone over in sight to put another million in their offshore accounts.........classy!!!!!!

i always, always hated VH, now I just have more ammo to scorch VH fans with at parties, thanks guys! :P

Still not as good as when I tell people about Dave Matthews writing on the walls of his hotel room with his own shit though....... :oops:

DeLukin

Unbelievable scum-ballery. Now that dude is the CEO of Ticketmaster??? Nice.

marcos

I didn't go to Van Halen concerts simply because it felt like corporate scum were up to something like this. To hear that Van Halen had knowledge of these acts is extremely disturbing. The article mentions that ticketmaster pulled the same thing with Bruce and it seemed that Bruce took measures to address it. I purchased a ticket for Bruce's upcoming show at the Spectrum and was issued a paperless ticket which is probably the way most true artists will be going. I purchased tickets for NIN last week in New York and had paperless tickets. He is someone that cares about the fans as well. But he's sickened by the corporate scum that surrounds him and so he is retiring from touring. When you hear shit like this from Van Halen it almost makes you not want to go to concerts anymore.

Sleep.With.Innocence

Because Van Halen NEEDS more money.

F'n pathetic.

Rollingstone123

We scored tickets outside MSG for $13 and $20 and upgraded ourselves to a lower section right near stage where there was a half row of empty seats...so we had 4 seats for the price of $33. The show SUCKED. no question about it. If i paid face I woulda been PISSED. FU VH- you guys are so over. Enjoy your stolen money- didnt get jack from me and the wife.

jwillmo

The real question is, why the hell did they go through all that trouble and chicanery, when they could have just made the scalped price the face value of the ticket, made the same amt of money, and not had to have a middle man and resort to what should be criminal activity. Not only was what the did awful, but pretty fucking stupid to boot. Are there really people out there who wouldn't pay jacked up prices to a box office but would to a scalper?

A satellite forever orbiting

marcos wrote:

I didn't go to Van Halen concerts simply because it felt like corporate scum were up to something like this. To hear that Van Halen had knowledge of these acts is extremely disturbing. The article mentions that ticketmaster pulled the same thing with Bruce and it seemed that Bruce took measures to address it. I purchased a ticket for Bruce's upcoming show at the Spectrum and was issued a paperless ticket which is probably the way most true artists will be going. I purchased tickets for NIN last week in New York and had paperless tickets. He is someone that cares about the fans as well. But he's sickened by the corporate scum that surrounds him and so he is retiring from touring. When you hear shit like this from Van Halen it almost makes you not want to go to concerts anymore.

they didnt do the same thing to bruce. when tickets went so quickly for the new jersey shows (imagine that...the boss sell out tix quickly :roll: ), people got rerouted to ticketsnow, not stubhub. and bruce has juice in n.j. and got some politicians involved, but ultimately it accomplished nothing.

jps176

"At each of the 20 shows, the best seats were taken directly out of the Ticketmaster system and passed directly to private dealers and scalpers."

That proves right there what a liar Azoff is. Anybody read that big article in Rolling Stone about Ticketbastard recently where they explicitly said that practice does NOT happen?

What a scumbag.

The New York Yorker had a good piece about the ticket racket recenlty, too... called "The Price of the Ticket."

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

jwillmo wrote:

The real question is, why the hell did they go through all that trouble and chicanery, when they could have just made the scalped price the face value of the ticket, made the same amt of money, and not had to have a middle man and resort to what should be criminal activity. Not only was what the did awful, but pretty fucking stupid to boot. Are there really people out there who wouldn't pay jacked up prices to a box office but would to a scalper?

Because you lose cred if you openly ask that much $$$$$$$$$$ for your tickets....I don't know how old you are, but several years ago now when the EAGLES reunited and asked $100 per ticket, their was quite an uproar...not a huge outcry, but a lot of us were thinking $100 a seat was quite a bit of cash......

..........and Alex needs another floor tom for his touring kit..........

P.S. VH hasn't any cred anyways, but that's the jist of it

jps176

jwillmo wrote:

The real question is, why the hell did they go through all that trouble and chicanery, when they could have just made the scalped price the face value of the ticket, made the same amt of money, and not had to have a middle man and resort to what should be criminal activity. Not only was what the did awful, but pretty fucking stupid to boot. Are there really people out there who wouldn't pay jacked up prices to a box office but would to a scalper?

Because they figured the PR damage would be far less then what it would be if they we up front about it.

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

No offense, but if anyone on this board is honestly surprised that Rolling Stone would print a lie to protect the ticket/concert/ industry.............well, geez, ya shouldn't be...they are all eating off the same plate.....Pearl Jam (and very few others) are the exception in the industry, not the rule....... :oops:

jwillmo

jps176 wrote:

jwillmo wrote:

The real question is, why the hell did they go through all that trouble and chicanery, when they could have just made the scalped price the face value of the ticket, made the same amt of money, and not had to have a middle man and resort to what should be criminal activity. Not only was what the did awful, but pretty fucking stupid to boot. Are there really people out there who wouldn't pay jacked up prices to a box office but would to a scalper?

Because they figured the PR damage would be far less then what it would be if they we up front about it.

Well, unless someone in the media decides to do their job and be a journalist and outs your scheme. Then you look worse.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Ok...

What am I missing.....

The scalpers, with their computer technology, and $10,000 computer software, always find a way to get the best tickets, when they go onsale through ticketmaster.....right???

The scalpers ALWAYS make a ton of money off the tickets they buy......right????

Van Halen found a way to put some of this money in their own pocket......right???

Im just looking at it as....If you cant beat them, join them

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Ok...

What am I missing.....

The scalpers, with their computer technology, and $10,000 computer software, always find a way to get the best tickets, when they go onsale through ticketmaster.....right???

The scalpers ALWAYS make a ton of money off the tickets they buy......right????

Van Halen found a way to put some of this money in their own pocket......right???

Im just looking at it as....If you cant beat them, join them

UGH, and just when I thought there was finally a post where no one would possibly side with the wrongdoer...

Ladies and Gents, ........meet SPEEDY

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Ok...

What am I missing.....

The scalpers, with their computer technology, and $10,000 computer software, always find a way to get the best tickets, when they go onsale through ticketmaster.....right???

The scalpers ALWAYS make a ton of money off the tickets they buy......right????

Van Halen found a way to put some of this money in their own pocket......right???

Im just looking at it as....If you cant beat them, join them

UGH, and just when I thought there was finally a post where no one would possibly side with the wrongdoer...

Ladies and Gents, ........meet SPEEDY

hehehehehe.....

The scalpers are going to make the big money......Thats just a fact...

Van Halen found a way to put a percentage of that big money into their pockets.....

I gotta give them credit.....

But thats just me....