Eddie Please Help Us!!!
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Is anybody paying attention to what is going on in the world? Has anybody heard of the american Union? Why is nobody standing up and talking about this? Help save the American Constitution. The government is doing stuff behind our backs that you would think is unspeakable. This is not about being Democrat or Republican...this is about being an AMERICAN. I am a Republican but I have always respected everyones output. Now.....as I keep looking more and more into this, I hate to say it, but I think i'm just becoming anti-government all together. I'm trying to get the word out on this and make people stand up but it's like people don't want to listen. I am a small town man in Maine and have listened to Pearl Jam faithfully since 1992. Eddie if you read this you can help ( that is if you agree with me ) get the word out....PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOU!! I always have, even though I haven't always agreed. I know your big on Freedom of Speech. We're about to lose it!! Please watch attached link. Thank You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH9VwxIPD6k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH9VwxIPD6k
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Let Obama deal with it. He's a pretty good dude. Smart too.
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and i'm not a democrat. but our gov't has been doing "unspeakable" things since forever. Eddie does plenty to shed light on injustices. doubt he's going to take up your cause.
The SPP is a White House-led initiative among the United States and the two nations it borders – Canada and Mexico – to increase security and to enhance prosperity among the three countries through greater cooperation. The SPP is based on the principle that our prosperity is dependent on our security and recognizes that our three great nations share a belief in freedom, economic opportunity, and strong democratic institutions. The SPP outlines a comprehensive agenda for cooperation among our three countries while respecting the sovereignty and unique cultural heritage of each nation. The SPP provides a vehicle by which the United States, Canada, and Mexico can identify and resolve unnecessary obstacles to trade and it provides a means to improve our response to emergencies and increase security, thus benefiting and protecting Americans.
The SPP is meant to:
Coordinate our security efforts to better protect U.S. citizens from terrorist threats and transnational crime and promote the safe and efficient movement of legitimate people and goods;
Expand economic opportunity for all our people by making our businesses more competitive in the global marketplace, cutting red tape, and providing consumers with safe, less expensive, and innovative products; and
Enhance our common efforts to combat infectious diseases, develop responses to man-made or natural disasters to enhance our citizens’ quality of life, protect our people and our environment, and improve consumer safety.
The SPP benefits the American people in many ways, and much progress has already been made. For example (see www.spp.gov for more information):
To save lives, prevent injuries, and make consumer goods safer, the United States, Canada and Mexico signed separate agreements for advance notifications when consumer goods violate one country's safety standards or pose a danger to consumers.
To strengthen border security, Mexican and U.S. agencies are exchanging information and establishing protocols to detect fraud and smuggling, and address border violence.
To speed up response times when managing infectious disease outbreaks, the United States and Canada signed an agreement to enable simultaneous exchange of information between virtual national laboratory networks.
To speed cargo shipping, the three countries are developing uniform in-advance electronic exchange of cargo manifest data for maritime, railroad and motor carriers.
To develop a coordinated strategy aimed at combating counterfeiting and piracy, a task force of senior officials from the three North American countries has been established
To reduce the cost of trade, the United States and Canada decreased transit times at the Detroit/Windsor gateway, our largest border crossing point, by 50 percent.
To reduce market distortions, facilitate trade, and promote overall competitiveness, the North American Steel Trade Committee developed a new strategy that focuses on improving innovation and market development.
Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP):
Myth vs. Fact
Myth: The SPP was an agreement signed by Presidents Bush and his Mexican and Canadian counterparts in Waco, TX, on March 23, 2005.
Fact: The SPP is a dialogue to increase security and enhance prosperity among the three countries. The SPP is not an agreement nor is it a treaty. In fact, no agreement was ever signed.
Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.
Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.
Myth: The SPP is being undertaken without the knowledge of the U.S. Congress.
Fact: U.S. agencies involved with SPP regularly update and consult with members of Congress on our efforts and plans.
Myth: The SPP infringes on the sovereignty of the United States.
Fact: The SPP respects and leaves the unique cultural and legal framework of each of the three countries intact. Nothing in the SPP undermines the U.S. Constitution. In no way does the SPP infringe upon the sovereignty of the United States.
Myth: The SPP is illegal and violates the Constitution.
Fact: The SPP is legal and in no way violates the Constitution or affects the legal authorities of the participating executive agencies. Indeed, the SPP is an opportunity for the governments of the United States, Canada, and Mexico to discuss common goals and identify ways to enhance each nation’s security and prosperity. If an action is identified, U.S. federal agencies can only operate within U.S. law to address these issues. The Departments of Commerce and Homeland Security coordinate the efforts of the agencies responsible for the various initiatives under the prosperity and security pillars of the SPP. If an agency were to decide a regulatory change is desirable through the cooperative efforts of SPP, that agency is required to conform to all existing U.S. laws and administrative procedures, including an opportunity to comment.
Myth: The U.S section of the SPP is headed by the Department of Commerce.
Fact: The SPP is a White House-driven initiative. In the United States, the Department of Commerce coordinates the ‘Prosperity’ component, while the Department of Homeland Security coordinates the ‘Security’ component. The Department of State ensures the two components are coordinated and are consistent with U.S. foreign policy.
Myth: The U.S. Government, working though the SPP, has a secret plan to build a "NAFTA Super Highway."
Fact: The U.S. government is not planning a NAFTA Super Highway. The U.S. government does not have the authority to designate any highway as a NAFTA Super Highway, nor has it sought such authority, nor is it planning to seek such authority. There are private and state level interests planning highway projects which they themselves describe as "NAFTA Corridors," but these are not Federally-driven initiatives, and they are not a part of the SPP.
Myth: The U.S. Government, through the Department of Transportation, is funding secretive highway projects to become part of a “NAFTA Super Highway”.
Fact: Many States in the American Midwest are proposing or undertaking highway projects to improve or build roads as Federal-aid and State or private sector revenue becomes available. All projects involving Federal-aid funds or approvals are subject to normal Federal-aid requirements, such as review under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), including public involvement. This public involvement, the common thread among all these activities, makes them anything but “secret.” In addition, Congress directs Department of Transportation funding for specific highway projects.
The Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) will continue to cooperate with the State transportation departments as they build and upgrade highways to meet the needs of the 21st century. Rather than evidence of a secret plan to create a NAFTA Super Highway that would undermine our national sovereignty, the FHWA’s efforts are a routine part of cooperation with all the State transportation departments to improve the Nation’s highways.
Myth: U.S. Government officials sponsored a secret SPP planning meeting in Banff, Alberta in September 2006.
Fact: The U.S. Government did not sponsor the meeting in Banff. The North American Forum, a private initiative that is separate from the U.S. Government, hosted the September 12-14, 2006 conference “Continental Prosperity in the New Security Environment.” Academics, businesspersons, private citizens, and government officials from the U.S., Mexican, and Canadian governments attended the conference. The North American Forum is not a product of the SPP.
Myth: The SPP will cost U.S. taxpayers money.
Fact: The SPP is being implemented with existing budget resources. Over the long-term, it will save U.S. taxpayers money by cutting through costly red tape and reducing redundant paperwork. This initiative will benefit the taxpayers through economic gain and increased security, thereby enhancing the competitiveness and quality of life in our countries.
Myth: The working groups and SPP documents are a secret and not available to the public.
Fact: The SPP’s initiatives and milestones with timelines can be found by clicking the Report to Leaders link at www.spp.gov. The Web site contains a section to enable interested persons to provide input directly to the various working groups.
Myth: The SPP seeks to lower U.S. standards through a regulatory cooperation framework.
Fact: The framework will support and enhance cooperation and encourage the compatibility of regulations among the three partners while maintaining high standards of health and safety. Any regulatory changes will require agencies to conform to all U.S. administrative procedures, including an opportunity to comment. Enhanced cooperation in this area will provide consumers with more affordable, safer, and more diversified and innovative products.
Myth: The SPP is meant to deal with immigration reform and trade disputes.
Fact: Immigration reform is a legislative matter currently being debated in Congress and is not being dealt with in the SPP. Likewise, trade disputes between the United States, Canada, and Mexico are resolved in the NAFTA and WTO mechanisms and not the SPP.
Myth: The SPP will result in the loss of American jobs.
Fact: The SPP seeks to create jobs by reducing transaction costs and unnecessary burdens for U.S. companies, which will bolster the competitiveness of our firms globally. These efforts will help U.S. manufacturers, spur job creation, and benefit consumers.
Myth: The SPP will harm our quality of life.
Fact: The SPP improves the safety and well-being of Americans. It builds on efforts to protect our environment, improves our ability to combat infectious diseases, such as avian influenza, and ensures our food supply is safe through the exchange of information and cooperation ─ improving the quality of life for U.S. citizens. Americans enjoy world class living standards because we are engaged with the world.
Myth: The SPP creates a NAFTA-plus legal status between the three countries.
Fact: The SPP does not seek to rewrite or renegotiate NAFTA. It creates no NAFTA-plus legal status.
Neil deGrasse Tyson
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you had me at "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America"
gee, that's respectful and constructive. :roll:
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Second, Eddie Vedder is a musician. Although a very politicly motivated person it would seem, I don't think he has the power to stop this union from happening. That is if it were really happening.
You need to stop getting sucked into these scare tactics and try to find as trustworthy a source of news as you can. I really feel sorry for you that you are this concerned about this. If this were really happening and our elected officials had no power to stop it do you think Eddie Vedder can?
I wonder how many Amero's it would take to buy a Pearl Jam ticket?
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this is not about Obama
it will cost 69000 ameros and 105 indianos cents!
Neil deGrasse Tyson
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i'm guessing it is/was Bushleaguer. if Bush hadn't been so piss poor as president, he wouldn't have won so easily.
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does it REALLY matter that much to you? it was such a stupid thread, it should probably just be deleted altogether, but i don't think it matters enough for anybody to make the effort.
You better be careful they will shut your chip off!!!
It matters to me when I click on a thread that has an interesting title, only to have it contain another political rumor/conspiracy/whatever. Regardless of whether the OP intended for the conversation to center around PJ, a thread like this is clearly going to devolve into something else. I'd rather the porch didn't get cluttered with threads that always turn into these pointless little arguments. Keep that for A Moving Train. At least there you know what you're getting yourself into when you click on a thread. The political threads always turn into the same thing on here... I'd rather it be contained with the rest of them.
And there's not much effort. A moderator just has to move it, quite simple.
5/30/06 - Washington, DC
6/22/08 - Washington, DC
10/31/09 - Philadelphia, PA
8/5/16 - Fenway Park
Temple of the Dog - 11/5/2016 - Philadelphia, PA
7/1/2018 - Prague
7/3/2018 - Kraków
7/5/2018 - Berlin
props to the OP...but you are barking up the wrong tree around here brother.
is that in the hippopotamus or rhinoceraus family?
that would be the sloth family.
two or three toed variety?
I LOVE people who claim to know the so-called "real truth". Like they have a tape recorder in the oval office. When in reality they just watch Fox News instead of CNN. Quite simple.
LOVE THEM.
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Once I get out of this town
9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
FOX?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shows how conditioned and trained you are...to automatically assume i reside on the opposite end of the political spectrum...that's how you are controlled..by letting them put you in a box and labeling you.....democrat..republican...conservative...liberal...those words have all been rendered irrelevant by the absolute corruption & corporatism, which is fascism, that exists on every level in the US gov. including congress & senate...this is indeed Orwell's 1984 we are living in...just 25 years later...too bad you can't see how ludicrous your smugness is...
I wasn't saying that at all. I just meant that each partisan person thinks that their own personal news outlet is the one that tells the truth.
Right wingers: Fox news.
Middle of the roaders: CNN.
Left wingers: Matthew Good.
Extreme right or left wingers: the real truth, otherwise known as "the voices"
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And YOU don't know how ludicrous it is what YOU are saying to ME. I am Canadian. I am not affiliated with any political party whatsoever. I vote for the platform, not the person.
I assumed nothing about you. See my above post for exactly what I meant. I simply made a statement on how anyone who is partisan assumes that their particularly politically leaning news outlet is the one that spouts the truth. And nutjobs seem to think that no one tells the truth, yet they seem to know it all, the only ones who see the "real picture". I laugh at those people.
1984??? Are you kidding me? I'm guessing you sleep in your basement in a rocking chair in fatigues with a rifle in your arms.
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fucking Canadians...i see all that cheese has constipated your brain!...go back to watching your Hockey game and leave the politics alone....it's def not your forte.