New Pearl Jam...new AIC

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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,424
    For all you AIC purists...

    Don't forget that Layne was in a band called Alice N' Chainz before he ever met Jerry Cantrell. That band broke up and then Layne hooked up with Jerry and they took the name Alice In Chains.

    So if anyone should be slammed it should be Layne for recreating a previous band with all new members and still calling it essentially the same name.

    Of course I'm being facetious here, but my point is that its just a name and like others have said... its their name. They can do whatever they want with it - I just hope the music is great.
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  • I have only heard one new AIC song on the radio. I don't even remember what it was called. I thought it was God-awful, frankly.

    YOU MUST BE KIDDING. Do you like their previous work? Cause they haven't strayed too far (if at all) from the bread and butter of their previous spread.
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  • paulonious wrote:
    I have only heard one new AIC song on the radio. I don't even remember what it was called. I thought it was God-awful, frankly.

    YOU MUST BE KIDDING. Do you like their previous work? Cause they haven't strayed too far (if at all) from the bread and butter of their previous spread.

    I too have only heard one song on the radio and can't remember the name. If it's the same one sightofjeff heard, I agree with him. The song I head was pretty bad, and I like pretty much everything AIC every put out. I haven't heard the rest of the album, but I hope it's better than what I heard on the radio. I hope you're right about them not straying too far.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    paulonious wrote:
    I have only heard one new AIC song on the radio. I don't even remember what it was called. I thought it was God-awful, frankly.

    YOU MUST BE KIDDING. Do you like their previous work? Cause they haven't strayed too far (if at all) from the bread and butter of their previous spread.

    I do like some of their previous work, though they are by far my least favorite of the Big 4 to come out of Seattle at that time. I like some of Cantrell's solo stuff, too.

    I wish I could remember the name of the new song I heard. It sounded like a bad AIC cover band.
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  • dpmaydpmay Posts: 643
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Of course, I also believe that if any of the four founding Pearl Jam members died (again, God forbid), I am quite certain that would be the end of Pearl Jam.

    this is interesting...does everybody around here think that this is true?
  • dpmay wrote:
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Of course, I also believe that if any of the four founding Pearl Jam members died (again, God forbid), I am quite certain that would be the end of Pearl Jam.

    this is interesting...does everybody around here think that this is true?

    no, I don't. they've had a revolving door of drummers, so why would it be different just because the circumstance surrounding the member leaving?
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  • paulonious wrote:
    I have only heard one new AIC song on the radio. I don't even remember what it was called. I thought it was God-awful, frankly.

    YOU MUST BE KIDDING. Do you like their previous work? Cause they haven't strayed too far (if at all) from the bread and butter of their previous spread.

    I do like some of their previous work, though they are by far my least favorite of the Big 4 to come out of Seattle at that time. I like some of Cantrell's solo stuff, too.

    I wish I could remember the name of the new song I heard. It sounded like a bad AIC cover band.

    there's two songs out right now. the first one released was A Looking In View, and the second one is Check My Brain. I love both of them. I find them to be very authentic AIC tunes. And the new singer isn't really the new singer. He's A new singer, in that Jerry seems to be handling a lot of the lead duties. William DuVall seems to handle a lot of the harmonies, and rhythm guitar. I think the tunes are fabulous.
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  • todd1974todd1974 Posts: 69
    paulonious wrote:
    todd1974 wrote:
    "Shannon Hoon scab "

    ouch...that's a bit harsh.quote]

    I guess that was a bit harsh. I only stated it like that because:
    a) he sounds EXACTLY like Shannon (live or studio)
    b) I couldn't remember his name

    Didn't mean it to be a slag to the guy (he was fabulous live to watch), although I guess it's now obvious that it couldn't really be taken any other way. ;)

    haha. Actually, when you said "Shannon Hoon scab", I thought you meant Shannon Hoon.

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  • todd1974todd1974 Posts: 69
    Paulonious,

    we've been to basically all the same shows. I'm guessing you're from winnipeg? I'm also 35.

    Question: are you actually one of my alter egos? They sometimes come on here when I'm sleeping.
  • paulonious wrote:

    there's two songs out right now. the first one released was A Looking In View, and the second one is Check My Brain. I love both of them. I find them to be very authentic AIC tunes. And the new singer isn't really the new singer. He's A new singer, in that Jerry seems to be handling a lot of the lead duties. William DuVall seems to handle a lot of the harmonies, and rhythm guitar. I think the tunes are fabulous.

    THAT's the one I heard... A Looking in View. I've only heard it once and didn't like it. But i'll give it another try, I'm kind of just waiting for the album to come out.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    paulonious wrote:

    there's two songs out right now. the first one released was A Looking In View, and the second one is Check My Brain. I love both of them. I find them to be very authentic AIC tunes. And the new singer isn't really the new singer. He's A new singer, in that Jerry seems to be handling a lot of the lead duties. William DuVall seems to handle a lot of the harmonies, and rhythm guitar. I think the tunes are fabulous.

    THAT's the one I heard... A Looking in View. I've only heard it once and didn't like it. But i'll give it another try, I'm kind of just waiting for the album to come out.

    Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of to. I didn't like it. I suppose I can give it another chance ... the thing is, I don't think a lot of AIC's old stuff holds up very well over time. So the new stuff sounding like the old stuff isn't really a plus, in my opinion.

    I understand how others would like it though.
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  • j-bugj-bug Posts: 272
    you dont think the old stuff stands up to time?

    wow.

    i'm sorry but i'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    I have only heard one new AIC song on the radio. I don't even remember what it was called. I thought it was God-awful, frankly.

    same here. i also like some of Cantrell's solo stuff & really love the older AIC stuff, so i had my hopes up for this. i heard one song...listened to it a few times hoping that it would grow on me. it didn't. i'll check out the record when it comes out & i hope it's better than that song. i really do. maybe it's just that i miss Layne's voice too much?
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  • todd1974todd1974 Posts: 69
    yeah, Dirt is still one of those albums that does it for me whenever I put it on.

    it's also a hard listen.

    It used to be like: wow, this guy sings a lot about drugs. That's cool (when I was young and impressionable).

    Now, it's kind of like: wow, that guy sang a lot about drugs and he wasn't kidding.

    I wonder what he was like.
  • todd1974 wrote:
    Paulonious,

    we've been to basically all the same shows. I'm guessing you're from winnipeg? I'm also 35.

    Question: are you actually one of my alter egos? They sometimes come on here when I'm sleeping.

    yes, I am from the Peg!

    no, I'm not!!! :lol:
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  • todd1974todd1974 Posts: 69
    somewhere around the peg then?
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    j-bug wrote:

    all i want now is a new Tool album and i'm good.

    damn right :mrgreen:
  • todd1974todd1974 Posts: 69
    I think Tool's best days are (far) behind them
  • DH62179DH62179 Posts: 312
    It would be nice if Tool released an album that more than 4 or 5 songs again...On the subject of members leaving or dying, I think Matt is the only 'replacable' member of the band just because it's been the other four for so long, that would be a knockout blow though, I don't even want to think about that. Was listening to the Backspacer previews in my truck today and his beats were thumping in my chest and giving me chills, he's so freaking awesome. I don't have a problem with AIC going on with a knew guy, can't say I'm interested at all though and I really like AIC. Also don't think the guy sounds like Layne as I've heard people say.
  • todd1974 wrote:
    somewhere around the peg then?

    when I said "no, I'm not" it was in answer to your question about being one of your alter egos. Yes, I am from Winnipeg. Born and raised.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    todd1974 wrote:
    yeah, Dirt is still one of those albums that does it for me whenever I put it on.

    it's also a hard listen.

    It used to be like: wow, this guy sings a lot about drugs. That's cool (when I was young and impressionable).

    Now, it's kind of like: wow, that guy sang a lot about drugs and he wasn't kidding.

    I wonder what he was like.

    Indeed. Maybe it's just that I don't relate to that stuff anymore. It's cool to be all tragic and full of despair when you're younger. When you grow up and have kids and life is good ... it's just difficult to relate to "Down in a Hole" still.

    But, again, I understand how some people would still love AIC. I've got no problem with that. It's a matter of personal taste. I still have all the albums (strangely, I liked the "Three-Legged Dog" album more than Dirt). I've still got a bunch of that stuff on my IPod. But it gets skipped a lot.
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  • mfc2006 wrote:
    I have only heard one new AIC song on the radio. I don't even remember what it was called. I thought it was God-awful, frankly.

    same here. i also like some of Cantrell's solo stuff & really love the older AIC stuff, so i had my hopes up for this. i heard one song...listened to it a few times hoping that it would grow on me. it didn't. i'll check out the record when it comes out & i hope it's better than that song. i really do. maybe it's just that i miss Layne's voice too much?

    I'm not sure why, but I've pulled out my AIC collection a lot lately and watched way too many youtube videos of the earlier years. I absolutely love Layne's voice, I enjoy listening to he and Cantrell together... I loved the ease at which Layne could belt something from deep but you couldn't even tell he was breathing to get it out.. wow... as absolutely gone as Layne was during the MTV recording, that is one of my favorite cd's to listen to, his voice was amazing even if it hurt him to open his eyes.
  • flyinwhole313flyinwhole313 Posts: 1,651
    chris32482 wrote:
    Listen, I think Cantrell is great. He's brilliant. I know he's always been the brains behind AIC. But Staley was the soul. Have you heard Cantrell's solo material? It's not AIC. The simple fact is that Jerry needs some $$$ and he knows that he will sell a lot more records/tickets by calling it Alice in Chains rather than "THe Jerry Cantrell Xperience" or whatever.

    YEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!! This is the end all comment, so shut up defenders! AIC died with Layne, this may be GREAT music, but if it is so great, it should speak for itself- change the name of the band. Money grubbing whores they are!
  • todd1974todd1974 Posts: 69
    "Money grubbing whores they are!"

    that's such a silly comment. You have no idea what their financial situation is. Maybe they actually need the money. I can't see them being filthy rich. If they are, then I'd be more inclined to believe you, but regardless, your arguing is a little bit annoying and immature: ie " so shut up defenders!"

    If your argument is so strong then it should speak for itself!

    I have no idea what you do for a living, nor do I care really, but I can guarantee you that you've done things in your life (as have I) that you only did to make a living. I'd suggest choosing your words (ie whore) a little more carefully.
  • FnCircusFnCircus Posts: 439
    Money grubbing whores they are!
    I wish people would stop with this......they do have to make a living.

    AND, for a Seattle example, if they were money grubbing whores, they would try to play Key Arena or some other big venue and selling tickets for $70 a pop instead of playing at the Moore Theatre and charging $23 a ticket like they were on Sept. 24th. and they just played a secret acoustic show in Seattle.

    sounds to me like they just want to play music.
  • flyinwhole313flyinwhole313 Posts: 1,651
    todd1974 wrote:
    "Money grubbing whores they are!"

    that's such a silly comment. You have no idea what their financial situation is. Maybe they actually need the money. I can't see them being filthy rich. If they are, then I'd be more inclined to believe you, but regardless, your arguing is a little bit annoying and immature: ie " so shut up defenders!"

    If your argument is so strong then it should speak for itself!

    I have no idea what you do for a living, nor do I care really, but I can guarantee you that you've done things in your life (as have I) that you only did to make a living. I'd suggest choosing your words (ie whore) a little more carefully.

    Strange...that your ARGUMENT is an agreement....I don't know how to take it. The exclaimation mark was to emphasize some humor in that statement, professor...and unless you are Jerry Cantrell, get off his lame ass, homeboy. As for my immaturity... :lol: I'm not trying to impress anyone. Everything I said is how I feel...make a comment, not a critique. My comment is- CHANGE THE NAME OF THE BAND. Obviously neither of us are Doctors...seing as we are on a band message board right now... :lol:
  • flyinwhole313flyinwhole313 Posts: 1,651
    FnCircus wrote:
    Money grubbing whores they are!
    I wish people would stop with this......they do have to make a living.

    AND, for a Seattle example, if they were money grubbing whores, they would try to play Key Arena or some other big venue and selling tickets for $70 a pop instead of playing at the Moore Theatre and charging $23 a ticket like they were on Sept. 24th. and they just played a secret acoustic show in Seattle.

    sounds to me like they just want to play music.

    OH MY GOD!!!!! CAN I NOT VOICE MY OPINION WITHOUT PEOPLE GETTING SO "HOLY" ABOUT IT??? WTF??? I THINK IT IS LAME TO BE PART OF SOMETHING NEW AND CALL IT SOMETHING OLD!!!!!!!!! DON'T AGREE??? SAY "I DONT AGREE", NO NEED TO PSYCHOANALYZE ME AND MY COMMENTS.
    Though I will send a box of tissues to anyone who needs them.
  • FnCircusFnCircus Posts: 439
    OH MY GOD!!!!! CAN I NOT VOICE MY OPINION WITHOUT PEOPLE GETTING SO "HOLY" ABOUT IT??? WTF??? I THINK IT IS LAME TO BE PART OF SOMETHING NEW AND CALL IT SOMETHING OLD!!!!!!!!! DON'T AGREE??? SAY "I DONT AGREE", NO NEED TO PSYCHOANALYZE ME AND MY COMMENTS.
    Though I will send a box of tissues to anyone who needs them.
    slow down there champ.......you're getting upset cause I voiced my opinion? maybe you do need some psycho-analyzing since you just called me Holy. I am far from it. But then again, maybe the Caps button is stuck on your keyboard.........

    Okay, so I will play your game here.

    I disagree with you. What does it matter whether they are called AIC or some other name and labeled an AIC rip off? Cantrell is still playing the same style of music and his guitar playing is distinct.
  • flyinwhole313flyinwhole313 Posts: 1,651
    FnCircus wrote:

    I disagree with you. What does it matter whether they are called AIC or some other name and labeled an AIC rip off? Cantrell is still playing the same style of music and his guitar playing is distinct.

    Ok, Alice in Chains has not been for how many years??? Answer here_____________.
    And WHY exactly is that??? Answer here______________.
    OK. So Why pick it all up NOW and call it Alice in Chains???
    Come up with a new name. That is my point. I'm NOT saying the music sucks, but it is NOT AIC without Layne, period.
  • flyinwhole313flyinwhole313 Posts: 1,651
    Oh, and I will be buying the new album when it comes out by the way :D
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