New Pearl Jam...new AIC

mrshock13
mrshock13 Posts: 472
edited August 2009 in The Porch
Having listened to the clips off all the songs from Backspacer, the pains of having to wait till sept. 20th (or whenever the pre-order arrives) is going to get very bad. That being said, the new Pearl Jam album combined with the first Alice in Chains album in 14 years, which also sound amazing, is probably going to be one of the hardest months to get through for music in a long, LONG time.
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  • tcaporale
    tcaporale Posts: 1,577
    Not only that, I'm waiting on the Beatles remasters too. Next month is going to be a great month for music.
  • chris32482
    chris32482 Posts: 213
    It bothers me that they're calling it Alice in Chains. If EV died, would Pearl Jam continue with a new lead singer?
  • Travelar
    Travelar Posts: 3,443
    chris32482 wrote:
    It bothers me that they're calling it Alice in Chains. If EV died, would Pearl Jam continue with a new lead singer?

    No kidding. With only half the members, it bothers me that The Who still call themselves The Who.
  • j-bug
    j-bug Posts: 272
    agh.

    REAL pointless old argument there...

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  • SolarWorld
    SolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    What's worse is AIC went and got someone who sounded like Layne. Imagine if PJ did that too. LAME
  • tcaporale
    tcaporale Posts: 1,577
    Have you guys heard any of the new material? I'm sure Cantrell wouldn't have done it if he didn't think he was staying true to AiC. He's not trying to replace Layne, he's just trying to do well in his honor.
  • j-bug
    j-bug Posts: 272
    William does NOT sound like Layne.are you listening to the tracks?
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    edited August 2009
    to me, Cantrell is AiC, not Layne. it doesnt really bother me, but i would have probably changed it just to stop the comparisons.
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  • j-bug
    j-bug Posts: 272
    no Cantrell is Cantrell.

    but this is another of those stupid pointless arguments that could go round and round.

    i'm kinda excited to hear it.have waited a long time.
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  • SB117186
    SB117186 Posts: 346
    j-bug wrote:

    i'm kinda excited to hear it.have waited a long time.

    Agreed! It has been a long time!
  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    this argument happens every time the new AIC is mentioned
    it is pointless
    it was , and always was cantrells band, he can do what he wants.
    William does a great job, does not try to be layne, does not take the spotlight, and if anything, he shies away from it. I am sure you would be more pissed of if cantrell continued AIC, with a whole new band and called themsleves AIC (cough billy and the current pumpkins cough cough!! :lol: )
    cant wait to hear them both, and see them both in seattle in 4 weeks
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  • chris32482
    chris32482 Posts: 213
    Opening Band For The Sun wrote:
    to me, Cantrell is AiC, not Layne. it doesnt really bother me, but i would have probably changed it just to stop the comparisons.

    Listen, I think Cantrell is great. He's brilliant. I know he's always been the brains behind AIC. But Staley was the soul. Have you heard Cantrell's solo material? It's not AIC. The simple fact is that Jerry needs some $$$ and he knows that he will sell a lot more records/tickets by calling it Alice in Chains rather than "THe Jerry Cantrell Xperience" or whatever.

    The guys from Blind Melon did the same fucking thing. They had the right idea at first, they got a new singer and called themselves Unified Theory. But that tanked, so then they found another guy that sounds a little bit like Shannon and called it Blind Melon. Stupid.
  • todd1974
    todd1974 Posts: 69
    can you really blame the guy though? If he names it Jerry Cantrell, he probably sells a handful. If he calls it Alice in Chains, he sells probably fifty times as many. I know that's a purely capitalistic argument (and I'm actually surprised myself that I'm making it :o ), but how many of us wouldn't do the exact same thing if put in that position.
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    TrAvELAr wrote:
    chris32482 wrote:
    It bothers me that they're calling it Alice in Chains. If EV died, would Pearl Jam continue with a new lead singer?

    No kidding. With only half the members, it bothers me that The Who still call themselves The Who.
    I think The Who comparison is a little off. Pete and Rogers are not replacement's, they are the founding members. It is not as though they tour as The Who with a different person signing the songs.

    In the case of AIC, I agree; I don't like them being Alice in Chains. As far as I am concerned, when Layne died, so did Alice in Chains. And I really like Jerry Cantrell and company, i just wish they would come up with a different name for the band. Just like well in PJ's case, certainly if Ed died (God forbid), I don't think they would find a new lead singer and continue on as Pearl Jam. Of course, I also believe that if any of the four founding Pearl Jam members died (again, God forbid), I am quite certain that would be the end of Pearl Jam.
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    The only other thing i was going to mention on this topic is, I think AC/DC is the truly only successful band to have switched lead singers and not missed a beat. As much as I loved Bon Scott, Brian Johnson has done a terrific job in continuing onward and upward with AC/DC.
  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    they have been playing together again as aic for 3 fucking years!!!!
    why is this still an argument!!!
    i don't see that many people around here complaining that axl rose still calls his band gun's and roses depite it only being him, same with billy corgan and the pumpkins, especially now that jimmy has left. what makes AIC a different case?? because it is the singer and not other band members???
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    2006 - Reading Festival,
    2007 - Katowice, London, Nijmegen, Rock Werchter,
    2008 - MSG x2, Hartford, Mansfield x2, Beacon Theater,
    2009 - Melbourne, Sydney,
    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
    2011 - EV Brisbane x3, Newcastle, Sydney x3,
    2012 - Manchester x 2, Amsterdam x2, Prague, Berlin x2, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen,
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  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    vedder_soup wrote:
    they have been playing together again as aic for 3 fucking years!!!!
    why is this still an argument!!!
    i don't see that many people around here complaining that axl rose still calls his band gun's and roses depite it only being him, same with billy corgan and the pumpkins, especially now that jimmy has left. what makes AIC a different case?? because it is the singer and not other band members???
    Oh jesus, don't get me started on how TERRIBLE it is that Axl still calls that band Guns-N-Roses. That also is an atrocity to rock-n-roll.

    The Axl Rose topic has been hashed out numerous times in the other music forum here. No one is happy about that either.

    Billy Corgin though, I dunno - he kind always has been The Pumpkins. Weird fucking dude right there.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    works for AC/DC!
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    I can't even tell you how often I've argued this topic in other forums. AIC is the band name. Get over it. If Jerry & Co want to call it that (especially with Layne's Mom's blessing-not that it's needed though) they can call it that.

    What IS a band name in the first place? It's a marketing tool, a brand. They'd be idiots to call it anything other than that. Everyone says they have lost integrity by keeping the name. I say they are keeping true to what they feel by keeping it.

    Music fans are getting all bent out of shape and possessive about something that is not theirs. It's Jerry & Co's band, not yours. He can call it what he likes. Same with Axl. Same with Billy. Same with AC/DC. Same with Van Halen. Need I go on?

    And to the fool who says that Jerry needs the money.....are you his accountant? I'm pretty sure he doesn't, but neither of us know that, so don't comment on it.

    And yes, Jerry's solo stuff may have well been called AIC, cause that's basically what it was.

    You know what? I went and saw Blind Melon a few weeks before that Shannon Hoon scab left the band, and they were tremendous live. TREMENDOUS. I don't give a shit if they called themselves Blind Melon or Anal Carrot. The show was awesome and that's what counts.
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  • S0nic reducer
    S0nic reducer Posts: 163
    WHo cares have you guys Herd check my Brain . That song kicks Ass

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