Matt Cameron is this bands best drummer.

Jeremys Spoken
Jeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
edited August 2009 in The Porch
No opinion.

100% fact.
:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

Of course it's my opinion.. but he is just awesome. Been here 11 years now and is very consistent. His vocal harmony's are great also.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Jeremys Spoken wrote:
    No opinion.

    100% fact.
    :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

    Of course it's my opinion.. but he is just awesome. Been here 11 years now and is very consistent. His vocal harmony's are great also.
    I think he's the best. I know popular opinion here is stuck in another decade however..
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    I've never doubted his ability, but I always thought he overlooked the older material.

    I thought the band was amazingly tight last night and Matt's drums really nailed things home the way they should be nailed home.
  • voodoopug
    voodoopug Posts: 1,011
    Jeremys Spoken wrote:
    No opinion.

    100% fact.
    :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

    Of course it's my opinion.. but he is just awesome. Been here 11 years now and is very consistent. His vocal harmony's are great also.

    +1
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  • Jeremys Spoken
    Jeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Jeremys Spoken wrote:
    No opinion.

    100% fact.
    :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

    Of course it's my opinion.. but he is just awesome. Been here 11 years now and is very consistent. His vocal harmony's are great also.
    I think he's the best. I know popular opinion here is stuck in another decade however..
    Yeah, I hate seeing that....whole "Jack Irons plays this better.." that argument is stupid. MATT IS MATT NOT JACK IRONS PEOPLE.
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    2010 - Newark 5/18 MSG 5/21
    2011 - PJ20 9/3-9/4
    2012 - MIA Festival 9/2
    2013 - Wrigley Field 7/19 Brooklyn 10/18-10/19 Philly 10/22
    2015 - Colbert show - 9/23 Global Citizens Festival 9/26
    2016 - Philly 4/28-4/29 MSG 5/1-5/2



  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    Dave A is on the same level at least though.
  • saveyou22
    saveyou22 Posts: 154
    It seems to me that the people that diss Matt and love Dave are usually the ones who only like the old songs.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Was listening to LO2L recently for the first time in ages.

    I love, love, love Matt's drumming on that album.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    saveyou22 wrote:
    It seems to me that the people that diss Matt and love Dave are usually the ones who only like the old songs.

    Don't think so. I don't really have a big preference from drummer to drummer, but there are some songs that he hasn't done that well in the past. He doesn't fuck them up or anything just missin somethin on some things.
  • cannotstaylong
    cannotstaylong Posts: 668
    I think Matt holds everything together as well as anyone else. I agree with others that he doesn't quite nail some of the old material as well as the other guys did, but he still does a pretty good job. He's got his own style like all the rest did, and expecting him to play exactly like Dave A or Jack is bound to end in disappointment. Would I prefer if he could play w.M.A. like Dave did? Yeah. But he's not going to, and we've also got songs like Unemployable that would never have happened if Dave were still around. Matt is what we've got, and he's not too shabby.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    edited August 2009
    Id take Dave or Jack in a second. Matt cant even play IN My Tree, WHo You Are, or WMA (you know its true. thats why they had to change them.). to be honest, i dont care about who their drummer is. except...

    the biggest reason is that i hate Matt's songs except maybe You Are. his songs are death to albums.
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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    MrSmith wrote:
    Id take Dave or Jack in a second. Matt cant even play IN My Tree, WHo You Are, or WMA (you know its true. thats why they had to change them.)

    but the biggest reason is that i hate Matt's songs except maybe You Are. his songs are death to albums.

    Yes thats the EXACT reason why they changed them.

    Matt can play anything any drummer has done in this band except for Dave A perhaps.
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,121
    Matt's a great drummer
    Jack's a great drummer
    Dave is a great drummer

    BUT Dave Krusen is the best drummer and a really nice guy. Not only does he just kill TEN (in a good way 8-) ), but check out some of his other work and you'll see what I mean
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  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,167
    MrSmith wrote:
    Id take Dave or Jack in a second. Matt cant even play IN My Tree, WHo You Are, or WMA (you know its true. thats why they had to change them.). to be honest, i dont care about who their drummer is. except...

    the biggest reason is that i hate Matt's songs except maybe You Are. his songs are death to albums.

    Matt's a professional drummer, and those songs aren't hard to play. They definitely changed them for a different reason, like maybe the band wanted a different feel on them.

    I'm not saying that one drummer is "better" than the other, but they are all professionals, and none of these guys is playing in a way that is too hard to replicate for other drummers, especially pros. If one drummer plays a song differently it is either because he has a different style, or because someone else in the band (or possibly the whole band) wanted to change the song up.
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Older songs I love matt chamberlain. I wish chamberlain woulda stayed with the band, stupid SNL offer. Jack irons does WMA the best.
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  • Kinsey
    Kinsey Posts: 197
    I brought my brother to the O2 gig last week. He's a drummer and massive Soundgarden fan, but he thought there was something a little off with Matt's drumming for PJ. He explained it to me in technical terms, but the stupid layman's terms (which I made him spell out) was that Matt's drumming sometimes gets in the way of the groove laid down by Stone and Jeff - the heavily technical drumming that could be laid over Soundgarden's complex riffing is not always suited to PJ's more natural flow.

    Personally, I don't notice, and enjoy his drumming as much as anyone else's. I do not like the songs he writes at all, and they are nearly always low points on the albums. The Fixer is, however, a very welcome change from this trend.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    metsfan wrote:
    Jack irons does WMA the best.
    Jack Irons does everything best.
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Whilst I do understand all the love for Dave A, people should remember that the shows he was playing with the band lasted a fraction of the time Matt spends up there each night, plus he didn't have to vary his sound much because they only had three records when he was in the band. Matt has to play a much greater variety of stuff, and personally, I think he does a remarkable job. My one and only gripe is the way he plays Given To Fly - the drumming on the build up to the chorus is what makes the song for me, and he just simplifies it.
  • Brain Of Jeremy
    Brain Of Jeremy Posts: 135
    Sorry, my vote goes to Dave A.

    I think he gets a lot of guff because of the whole Eddie thing.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    facepollution wrote:
    Whilst I do understand all the love for Dave A, people should remember that the shows he was playing with the band lasted a fraction of the time Matt spends up there each night, plus he didn't have to vary his sound much because they only had three records when he was in the band. Matt has to play a much greater variety of stuff, and personally, I think he does a remarkable job. My one and only gripe is the way he plays Given To Fly - the drumming on the build up to the chorus is what makes the song for me, and he just simplifies it.

    GTF was the song that stood out to me on LO2L. Looooove the way Matt was drumming it then. He doesn't quite do it the same way anymore.

    Wish he'd go back to that.

    In fact, I prefer the way Matt was drumming most of the Yield songs in '98 as opposed to now.
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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,073
    Jack.
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