Matt Cameron is this bands best drummer.

Jeremys Spoken

No opinion.

100% fact.


Of course it's my opinion.. but he is just awesome. Been here 11 years now and is very consistent. His vocal harmony's are great also.

LikeAnOcean

Jeremys Spoken wrote:

No opinion.

100% fact.


Of course it's my opinion.. but he is just awesome. Been here 11 years now and is very consistent. His vocal harmony's are great also.

I think he's the best. I know popular opinion here is stuck in another decade however..

DewieCox

I've never doubted his ability, but I always thought he overlooked the older material.

I thought the band was amazingly tight last night and Matt's drums really nailed things home the way they should be nailed home.

voodoopug

Jeremys Spoken wrote:

No opinion.

100% fact.


Of course it's my opinion.. but he is just awesome. Been here 11 years now and is very consistent. His vocal harmony's are great also.

+1

Jeremys Spoken

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Jeremys Spoken wrote:

No opinion.

100% fact.


Of course it's my opinion.. but he is just awesome. Been here 11 years now and is very consistent. His vocal harmony's are great also.

I think he's the best. I know popular opinion here is stuck in another decade however..

Yeah, I hate seeing that....whole "Jack Irons plays this better.." that argument is stupid. MATT IS MATT NOT JACK IRONS PEOPLE.

Brisk.

Dave A is on the same level at least though.

saveyou22

It seems to me that the people that diss Matt and love Dave are usually the ones who only like the old songs.

slightofjeff

Was listening to LO2L recently for the first time in ages.

I love, love, love Matt's drumming on that album.

DewieCox

saveyou22 wrote:

It seems to me that the people that diss Matt and love Dave are usually the ones who only like the old songs.

Don't think so. I don't really have a big preference from drummer to drummer, but there are some songs that he hasn't done that well in the past. He doesn't fuck them up or anything just missin somethin on some things.

cannotstaylong

I think Matt holds everything together as well as anyone else. I agree with others that he doesn't quite nail some of the old material as well as the other guys did, but he still does a pretty good job. He's got his own style like all the rest did, and expecting him to play exactly like Dave A or Jack is bound to end in disappointment. Would I prefer if he could play w.M.A. like Dave did? Yeah. But he's not going to, and we've also got songs like Unemployable that would never have happened if Dave were still around. Matt is what we've got, and he's not too shabby.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

Id take Dave or Jack in a second. Matt cant even play IN My Tree, WHo You Are, or WMA (you know its true. thats why they had to change them.). to be honest, i dont care about who their drummer is. except...

the biggest reason is that i hate Matt's songs except maybe You Are. his songs are death to albums.

Brisk.

MrSmith wrote:

Id take Dave or Jack in a second. Matt cant even play IN My Tree, WHo You Are, or WMA (you know its true. thats why they had to change them.)

but the biggest reason is that i hate Matt's songs except maybe You Are. his songs are death to albums.

Yes thats the EXACT reason why they changed them.

Matt can play anything any drummer has done in this band except for Dave A perhaps.

LukinFan

Matt's a great drummer
Jack's a great drummer
Dave is a great drummer

BUT Dave Krusen is the best drummer and a really nice guy. Not only does he just kill TEN (in a good way ), but check out some of his other work and you'll see what I mean

yosi

MrSmith wrote:

Id take Dave or Jack in a second. Matt cant even play IN My Tree, WHo You Are, or WMA (you know its true. thats why they had to change them.). to be honest, i dont care about who their drummer is. except...

the biggest reason is that i hate Matt's songs except maybe You Are. his songs are death to albums.

Matt's a professional drummer, and those songs aren't hard to play. They definitely changed them for a different reason, like maybe the band wanted a different feel on them.

I'm not saying that one drummer is "better" than the other, but they are all professionals, and none of these guys is playing in a way that is too hard to replicate for other drummers, especially pros. If one drummer plays a song differently it is either because he has a different style, or because someone else in the band (or possibly the whole band) wanted to change the song up.

Gary Carter

Older songs I love matt chamberlain. I wish chamberlain woulda stayed with the band, stupid SNL offer. Jack irons does WMA the best.

Kinsey

I brought my brother to the O2 gig last week. He's a drummer and massive Soundgarden fan, but he thought there was something a little off with Matt's drumming for PJ. He explained it to me in technical terms, but the stupid layman's terms (which I made him spell out) was that Matt's drumming sometimes gets in the way of the groove laid down by Stone and Jeff - the heavily technical drumming that could be laid over Soundgarden's complex riffing is not always suited to PJ's more natural flow.

Personally, I don't notice, and enjoy his drumming as much as anyone else's. I do not like the songs he writes at all, and they are nearly always low points on the albums. The Fixer is, however, a very welcome change from this trend.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

metsfan wrote:

Jack irons does WMA the best.

Jack Irons does everything best.

facepollution

Whilst I do understand all the love for Dave A, people should remember that the shows he was playing with the band lasted a fraction of the time Matt spends up there each night, plus he didn't have to vary his sound much because they only had three records when he was in the band. Matt has to play a much greater variety of stuff, and personally, I think he does a remarkable job. My one and only gripe is the way he plays Given To Fly - the drumming on the build up to the chorus is what makes the song for me, and he just simplifies it.

Brain Of Jeremy

Sorry, my vote goes to Dave A.

I think he gets a lot of guff because of the whole Eddie thing.

slightofjeff

facepollution wrote:

Whilst I do understand all the love for Dave A, people should remember that the shows he was playing with the band lasted a fraction of the time Matt spends up there each night, plus he didn't have to vary his sound much because they only had three records when he was in the band. Matt has to play a much greater variety of stuff, and personally, I think he does a remarkable job. My one and only gripe is the way he plays Given To Fly - the drumming on the build up to the chorus is what makes the song for me, and he just simplifies it.

GTF was the song that stood out to me on LO2L. Looooove the way Matt was drumming it then. He doesn't quite do it the same way anymore.

Wish he'd go back to that.

In fact, I prefer the way Matt was drumming most of the Yield songs in '98 as opposed to now.

ComeToTX

Jack.

facepollution

slightofjeff wrote:

GTF was the song that stood out to me on LO2L. Looooove the way Matt was drumming it then. He doesn't quite do it the same way anymore.

Wish he'd go back to that.

In fact, I prefer the way Matt was drumming most of the Yield songs in '98 as opposed to now.

Just listening to that version now, and yeah I agree, he sounds really good. I think the main problem with it these days is that they play it too fast in general, it sounds much better when they let it build up slower and then it explodes.

cannotstaylong

facepollution wrote:

slightofjeff wrote:

GTF was the song that stood out to me on LO2L. Looooove the way Matt was drumming it then. He doesn't quite do it the same way anymore.

Wish he'd go back to that.

In fact, I prefer the way Matt was drumming most of the Yield songs in '98 as opposed to now.

Just listening to that version now, and yeah I agree, he sounds really good. I think the main problem with it these days is that they play it too fast in general, it sounds much better when they let it build up slower and then it explodes.

Agreed. I just don't understand why some of these songs are being played so much faster. Even though Evenflow is very tired for me, I think I would still enjoy it a lot more if it were played at the original slower tempo. So many of the songs were originally based around these dramatic changes in dynamic, with swells in energy and intensity. I think a great deal of this is lost when they try and play the songs at a break-neck pace. GTF is the perfect example for me, but there are other songs that suffer from the whirlwind pacing.

For whatever reason this has been more pronounced since Matt's been around. At the end of the day, it only affects some of the songs and it is by no means a showstopper for me, but if Eddie and the boys were to happen to be reading this thread I would tell them to slow it down a bit.

facepollution

cannotstaylong wrote:

Agreed. I just don't understand why some of these songs are being played so much faster. Even though Evenflow is very tired for me, I think I would still enjoy it a lot more if it were played at the original slower tempo. So many of the songs were originally based around these dramatic changes in dynamic, with swells in energy and intensity. I think a great deal of this is lost when they try and play the songs at a break-neck pace. GTF is the perfect example for me, but there are other songs that suffer from the whirlwind pacing.

For whatever reason this has been more pronounced since Matt's been around. At the end of the day, it only affects some of the songs and it is by no means a showstopper for me, but if Eddie and the boys were to happen to be reading this thread I would tell them to slow it down a bit.

Totally agree about Even Flow, the speeded up and lengthened version does very little for me. I've gotta confess I took the opportunity to go for a piss during the Even Flow jam at the O2 show! My mate asked how I knew when the best time to go was - as soon as they started jamming I knew I had a full five minutes!

Rearviewrelease

Matt Camerson is amazing!



But...I personally like and think Dave A. is a much better drummer

Lone Wolf

Jeremys Spoken wrote:

No opinion.

100% fact.


Of course it's my opinion.. but he is just awesome. Been here 11 years now and is very consistent. His vocal harmony's are great also.

Agreed 100%......Matt rules......

allstar340

Jack Irons is the only one I HATE

watch him ruin alive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy_Z-WYciC8

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

im sorry i posted in this thread. thirty seconds of every song on the new album leaks and people just want to make another fucking drummer thread. who really gives a shit?

TT8270

IMHO he is the best drummer...for Soundgarden. Soundgarden is an awesome band and Matt suits perfectly for their colder and meaner sound. Pearl Jam really needs softer and more laid back touch. Matt is too mechanical or robotic for them. Guess who's my favorite

NWOntario

Either Matt Cameron is God or God is Matt Cameron. I can't figure out which it is.

Demps

Eddie had it right in the liner notes for Lost Dogs regarding Matt. I wish he'd write more songs as his always jump out at me when I first listen to a new album.

That said, I agree with whoever said that they could stand to slow some songs down in concert. The energy is great, but I feel like they are rushing through some seriously great music sometimes.