having your ass handed to you is having someone prove you wrong ... i can type all day calling people stupid names ... it doesn't really mean anything in a discussion ... if she wanted a shouting match like you suggested - why wouldn't she just shout stuff back? ... maybe because she wanted an intelligent answer ...
then she should have asked an intelligent question...hitler/nazi comments deserve stupid responses
Yeah... and I'm not Jewish, but I would think that most Jewish people (like Frank) have a pretty short temper when basically being compared to Nazi's or Hitler.
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From what I've seen in these town hall meetings, there are no real discussions.Its more the politicians trying to answer questions and "hecklers" not allowing them to answer by yelling and booing at them when they try. And people who genuinely want to hear what this proposed health bill has and how will it effect them, can not- because of people not allowing them to talk.
If you look at the CNN article (posted before), Frank tried to answer question but got booed and talked above. Any person, for 2 hours or more, would get frustrated with the situation. He is a person, like everyone else and he lost his cool.
If the woman had asked her question in a way that would get a real answer, then she would not have gotten the response that she did. If she had asked - "is the proposed bill going to cut medicare funding?" - then she would have gotten a better answer. Instead throwing out the nazi line- is just stirring up the shit.
From what I've seen in these town hall meetings, there are no real discussions.Its more the politicians trying to answer questions and "hecklers" not allowing them to answer by yelling and booing at them when they try. And people who genuinely want to hear what this proposed health bill has and how will it effect them, can not- because of people not allowing them to talk.
If you look at the CNN article (posted before), Frank tried to answer question but got booed and talked above. Any person, for 2 hours or more, would get frustrated with the situation. He is a person, like everyone else and he lost his cool.
If the woman had asked her question in a way that would get a real answer, then she would not have gotten the response that she did. If she had asked - "is the proposed bill going to cut medicare funding?" - then she would have gotten a better answer. Instead throwing out the nazi line- is just stirring up the shit.
i understand all that about the yelling and whatnot but she seemed to ask her question then remain silent, i didn't notice her yelling or shouting in the video. if he wants to go off because of that he should direct at someone acting like that. and his insults seemed more about what a stupid question he thought it was, not anger from being heckled or talked over.
but who knows, the video has edits in between his rants, who knows what happened in between, maybe they weren't even all directed at her
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haha ... i give up ... although i suppose it just means my point was proven ...
and your point was why he didn't answer her question?
you expect a serious answer to this?
"Why are you supporting this Nazi policy?"
tell me...how would you answer that question?
to be fair her question was a lot more than that. it's still edited but i posted more of her question at the top of page 2
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when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
haha ... i give up ... although i suppose it just means my point was proven ...
and your point was why he didn't answer her question?
you expect a serious answer to this?
"Why are you supporting this Nazi policy?"
tell me...how would you answer that question?
to be fair her question was a lot more than that. i posted her full question at the top of page 2
well i'd love to hear it...but at the point she brings hitler into it she loses all credibility
and i am not necessarily disagreeing with the intent of the question...i think the question of why he is supporting it is valid, but if you want one to take you seriously, be serious...
and your point was why he didn't answer her question?
you expect a serious answer to this?
"Why are you supporting this Nazi policy?"
tell me...how would you answer that question?
well ... if i knew what the nazi policy was towards health care - i would tell her the difference ... my entire point in this whole thread is just this: as soon as many of y'all here the word nazi - you're tuned out ... you are no longer listening - instead you dismiss her out of hand ... again, she could be a phd in health care policies around the world but no one would care simply because she use the word nazi ...
the crux of the issue to me is that in order for people to understand each other - we need to listen ... if you feel that she doesn't deserve to be listened to because of what she says or what she wears or anything - that is your prerogative but in a world where most of our differences are based on ignorance (see religion, human sexuality, etc.) - we could use more listening ...
and your point was why he didn't answer her question?
you expect a serious answer to this?
"Why are you supporting this Nazi policy?"
tell me...how would you answer that question?
well ... if i knew what the nazi policy was towards health care - i would tell her the difference ... my entire point in this whole thread is just this: as soon as many of y'all here the word nazi - you're tuned out ... you are no longer listening - instead you dismiss her out of hand ... again, she could be a phd in health care policies around the world but no one would care simply because she use the word nazi ...
the crux of the issue to me is that in order for people to understand each other - we need to listen ... if you feel that she doesn't deserve to be listened to because of what she says or what she wears or anything - that is your prerogative but in a world where most of our differences are based on ignorance (see religion, human sexuality, etc.) - we could use more listening ...
right on
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when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
do the people who rail against UHC/public option plan to renounce medicare when they come of age?
that's a "socialist" program. where is the outrage from these town hallers that old people get public health care?
the fact that this has caused so much outrage makes me embarrassed to be part of this country sometimes.
town haller mentality: "i'm fine with us going into iraq and spending $10B/month killing arabs and looking for those WMD's, but $30B/year to help out our own citizens receive basic medical care? FUCK NO!!! let's riot!!!"
From what I've seen in these town hall meetings, there are no real discussions.Its more the politicians trying to answer questions and "hecklers" not allowing them to answer by yelling and booing at them when they try. And people who genuinely want to hear what this proposed health bill has and how will it effect them, can not- because of people not allowing them to talk.
If you look at the CNN article (posted before), Frank tried to answer question but got booed and talked above. Any person, for 2 hours or more, would get frustrated with the situation. He is a person, like everyone else and he lost his cool.
If the woman had asked her question in a way that would get a real answer, then she would not have gotten the response that she did. If she had asked - "is the proposed bill going to cut medicare funding?" - then she would have gotten a better answer. Instead throwing out the nazi line- is just stirring up the shit.
i understand all that about the yelling and whatnot but she seemed to ask her question then remain silent, i didn't notice her yelling or shouting in the video. if he wants to go off because of that he should direct at someone acting like that. and his insults seemed more about what a stupid question he thought it was, not anger from being heckled or talked over.
but who knows, the video has edits in between his rants, who knows what happened in between, maybe they weren't even all directed at her
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rue- there were edits in that link you posted- and I don't know if she yelled back or did keep silent- I would really like to see the full video. Is that posted anywhere?
And I think his insult was in response to her question, but I think that he was frustrated with the whole meeting- and being human- he took it out on her. Did she deserve it- not the brunt of it- but I just think he met his breaking point.
the crux of the issue to me is that in order for people to understand each other - we need to listen ... if you feel that she doesn't deserve to be listened to because of what she says or what she wears or anything - that is your prerogative but in a world where most of our differences are based on ignorance (see religion, human sexuality, etc.) - we could use more listening ...
the same reasoning could be made for Frank. He was not being listened to because of what he was saying. Instead, when he was talking- a lot of people were not listening and not trying to listen to what he came to say. Listening goes both ways. Its not just waiting for your turn to speak or to speak above another so you can get your point across or to prevent others from hearing what you have to say.
do the people who rail against UHC/public option plan to renounce medicare when they come of age?
that's a "socialist" program. where is the outrage from these town hallers that old people get public health care?
the fact that this has caused so much outrage makes me embarrassed to be part of this country sometimes.
town haller mentality: "i'm fine with us going into iraq and spending $10B/month killing arabs and looking for those WMD's, but $30B/year to help out our own citizens receive basic medical care? FUCK NO!!! let's riot!!!"
idiots.
they have no problem using the roads, either. and if their house catches on fire i'm pretty sure they will ask the fire dept for assistance....
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i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
do the people who rail against UHC/public option plan to renounce medicare when they come of age?
that's a "socialist" program. where is the outrage from these town hallers that old people get public health care?
the fact that this has caused so much outrage makes me embarrassed to be part of this country sometimes.
town haller mentality: "i'm fine with us going into iraq and spending $10B/month killing arabs and looking for those WMD's, but $30B/year to help out our own citizens receive basic medical care? FUCK NO!!! let's riot!!!"
idiots.
they have no problem using the roads, either. and if their house catches on fire i'm pretty sure they will ask the fire dept for assistance....
exactly. but then again obama is such a nazi... :roll: :evil:
town haller mentality: "i'm fine with us going into iraq and spending $10B/month killing arabs and looking for those WMD's, but $30B/year to help out our own citizens receive basic medical care? FUCK NO!!! let's riot!!!"
idiots.
you know, if ANYONE deserves to be compared to Nazis, it's the GOP. I mean their strategy seems to be coming directly from the Joseph Goebbels playbook. Fear and ignorance, that's all they're using.
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the same reasoning could be made for Frank. He was not being listened to because of what he was saying. Instead, when he was talking- a lot of people were not listening and not trying to listen to what he came to say. Listening goes both ways. Its not just waiting for your turn to speak or to speak above another so you can get your point across or to prevent others from hearing what you have to say.
absolutely ... but two wrongs don't make a right and if a kid throws a tantrum to his parents - is it right that the parent throws one too? ... Frank's the elected official here - I expect him to take a higher road
From what I've seen in these town hall meetings, there are no real discussions.Its more the politicians trying to answer questions and "hecklers" not allowing them to answer by yelling and booing at them when they try. And people who genuinely want to hear what this proposed health bill has and how will it effect them, can not- because of people not allowing them to talk.
If you look at the CNN article (posted before), Frank tried to answer question but got booed and talked above. Any person, for 2 hours or more, would get frustrated with the situation. He is a person, like everyone else and he lost his cool.
If the woman had asked her question in a way that would get a real answer, then she would not have gotten the response that she did. If she had asked - "is the proposed bill going to cut medicare funding?" - then she would have gotten a better answer. Instead throwing out the nazi line- is just stirring up the shit.
i understand all that about the yelling and whatnot but she seemed to ask her question then remain silent, i didn't notice her yelling or shouting in the video. if he wants to go off because of that he should direct at someone acting like that. and his insults seemed more about what a stupid question he thought it was, not anger from being heckled or talked over.
but who knows, the video has edits in between his rants, who knows what happened in between, maybe they weren't even all directed at her
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rue- there were edits in that link you posted- and I don't know if she yelled back or did keep silent- I would really like to see the full video. Is that posted anywhere?
And I think his insult was in response to her question, but I think that he was frustrated with the whole meeting- and being human- he took it out on her. Did she deserve it- not the brunt of it- but I just think he met his breaking point.
i can understand getting frustrated at all the yelling and booing but when you react like this to what seems like a girl who wasn't doing that but only asked a 'stupid question' it only allows people like glenn beck who push these ideas of nazi policies (saw a youtube video of him crying over a nazi health care poster and how it made him think of his daughter with cp and others like hannity, rush....to show a seemingly calm girl asking a question then be made fun of saying 'see, this is what the democrats think of those who don't agree with them, look at how they don't even listen to their constiuents!' which will strenghen what those people already believe. if he answered calmly and respectfully what can they say?
what if this was school. what if your kid asked a question that an adult could think was silly and stupid...what if their teacher made fun of them and said things like that to them? would parents care this is how they treat the kids in that class?
i'm just saying you have a better dialogue speaking calmly and being respectful.
i don't know if there's a full video, i looked for a while and looked for a transcript but everything i found had edits and far too many were from fox news :roll:
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the same reasoning could be made for Frank. He was not being listened to because of what he was saying. Instead, when he was talking- a lot of people were not listening and not trying to listen to what he came to say. Listening goes both ways. Its not just waiting for your turn to speak or to speak above another so you can get your point across or to prevent others from hearing what you have to say.
absolutely ... but two wrongs don't make a right and if a kid throws a tantrum to his parents - is it right that the parent throws one too? ... Frank's the elected official here - I expect him to take a higher road
Absolutely, he could have responded better- but again- he is just a person and like anyone else. Because he is a politician, does that mean that he can not lose his cool?
He lost it and yes this does give the opposing side to use this to their advantage. Again- the clip was edited and we only see part of the video- I wonder if she was as calm throughout that exchange.
A lot of the democrats at these town hall meeting have been trying to speak calmly to the people- and what have people said- they are being weak.
yes two wrongs don't make a right- but what's done is done
people who compare Obama's healthcare reform model to anything like the nazi version need to get some help. Simple as that. Barney Frank is right on the money here. Bush was closer to hitler if you want to go that route but Obama is trying to increase the level of healthcare in this country.
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Absolutely, he could have responded better- but again- he is just a person and like anyone else. Because he is a politician, does that mean that he can not lose his cool?
He lost it and yes this does give the opposing side to use this to their advantage. Again- the clip was edited and we only see part of the video- I wonder if she was as calm throughout that exchange.
A lot of the democrats at these town hall meeting have been trying to speak calmly to the people- and what have people said- they are being weak.
yes two wrongs don't make a right- but what's done is done
oh ... for sure ... don't get me wrong here - no one's perfect by any stretch ... my point is more generic - i see it all the time here ... it's just not this particular case ... people tune out if they hear certain words because we've been told they have only one meaning ...
It looks like she was responding back to Frank, but her mic was not on. After he asked her the what planet question- it looks like he was listening to something she said and then made the dinning room table comment.
Also her statement/question was a lot longer than just the nazi comment. And maybe she was not calmly asking/answering Frank- Don't know- the camera was not on her but on Frank.
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the second any person compares a man who is responsible for killing millions of people to a man trying to expand health care coverage YOU DO LOSE CREDIBILITY. You can ask why do you support this socialistic policy, but Hitler has no place in this conversation. This lady did ask a question but she didn't give the man respect while asking it and he didn't give her respect in responding..and on a sidenote I'm not Jewish but if I was I'd be going off on these people left and right over these Nazi/Hitler comments...disgusting.
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Regardless what the both of you... or anyone else here... feels about Barney Frank, the politician, the person, the whatever...
What about the message he is saying? What do you guys think about what he said?
Because even if it were Dick Cheney who said this to a lunatic woman instead of Barney Frank,.. i'd still agree with the message.
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Just because you hate the messenger doesn't make the message invalid... right? Because if it does matter to you... well, with all due respect, it makes you look like partisan fools... which i'm not saying you are.... i'm just saying if that how you really feel... that's how you appear.
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the second any person compares a man who is responsible for killing millions of people to a man trying to expand health care coverage YOU DO LOSE CREDIBILITY. You can ask why do you support this socialistic policy, but Hitler has no place in this conversation. This lady did ask a question but she didn't give the man respect while asking it and he didn't give her respect in responding..and on a sidenote I'm not Jewish but if I was I'd be going off on these people left and right over these Nazi/Hitler comments...disgusting.
i agree with you here in your post. a few years ago i got eaten alive by the "patriots" for calling bush hitler, but i was referring to his naked aggression with invading iraq, which was built on all lies and trumped up accusations. it was one aspect that hitler was most famously known for, the same as bush will be known for it. i never used that comparison for domestic policy though. i learned to not make such hasty comparisons based on emotion since then.
to compare obama, who is trying to give health insurance to everyone and actually help people get the medical care then need and hitler who murdered indiscriminately over 6 million jews and millions of other germans, russians, brits, americans, etc that died in the war as a result of his action. there is absolutely no comparison. no comparison at all.
i think barney just got frustrated and sick of hearing this crap from the people that are so obviously brainwashed by palin, boener, grassley, and fox news that he kind of lost it. this lady deserved all that she got though. sometimes i would agree that talking to some folks around here is like arguing with the dining room table. but its all good because most of the time it makes for interesting conversation and sharing of ideas.
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Yeah... and I'm not Jewish, but I would think that most Jewish people (like Frank) have a pretty short temper when basically being compared to Nazi's or Hitler.
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If you look at the CNN article (posted before), Frank tried to answer question but got booed and talked above. Any person, for 2 hours or more, would get frustrated with the situation. He is a person, like everyone else and he lost his cool.
If the woman had asked her question in a way that would get a real answer, then she would not have gotten the response that she did. If she had asked - "is the proposed bill going to cut medicare funding?" - then she would have gotten a better answer. Instead throwing out the nazi line- is just stirring up the shit.
and your point was why he didn't answer her question?
you expect a serious answer to this?
"Why are you supporting this Nazi policy?"
tell me...how would you answer that question?
i understand all that about the yelling and whatnot but she seemed to ask her question then remain silent, i didn't notice her yelling or shouting in the video. if he wants to go off because of that he should direct at someone acting like that. and his insults seemed more about what a stupid question he thought it was, not anger from being heckled or talked over.
but who knows, the video has edits in between his rants, who knows what happened in between, maybe they weren't even all directed at her
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to be fair her question was a lot more than that. it's still edited but i posted more of her question at the top of page 2
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well i'd love to hear it...but at the point she brings hitler into it she loses all credibility
and i am not necessarily disagreeing with the intent of the question...i think the question of why he is supporting it is valid, but if you want one to take you seriously, be serious...
well ... if i knew what the nazi policy was towards health care - i would tell her the difference ... my entire point in this whole thread is just this: as soon as many of y'all here the word nazi - you're tuned out ... you are no longer listening - instead you dismiss her out of hand ... again, she could be a phd in health care policies around the world but no one would care simply because she use the word nazi ...
the crux of the issue to me is that in order for people to understand each other - we need to listen ... if you feel that she doesn't deserve to be listened to because of what she says or what she wears or anything - that is your prerogative but in a world where most of our differences are based on ignorance (see religion, human sexuality, etc.) - we could use more listening ...
right on
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when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
that's a "socialist" program. where is the outrage from these town hallers that old people get public health care?
the fact that this has caused so much outrage makes me embarrassed to be part of this country sometimes.
town haller mentality: "i'm fine with us going into iraq and spending $10B/month killing arabs and looking for those WMD's, but $30B/year to help out our own citizens receive basic medical care? FUCK NO!!! let's riot!!!"
idiots.
rue- there were edits in that link you posted- and I don't know if she yelled back or did keep silent- I would really like to see the full video. Is that posted anywhere?
And I think his insult was in response to her question, but I think that he was frustrated with the whole meeting- and being human- he took it out on her. Did she deserve it- not the brunt of it- but I just think he met his breaking point.
they have no problem using the roads, either. and if their house catches on fire i'm pretty sure they will ask the fire dept for assistance....
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
exactly. but then again obama is such a nazi...
you know, if ANYONE deserves to be compared to Nazis, it's the GOP. I mean their strategy seems to be coming directly from the Joseph Goebbels playbook. Fear and ignorance, that's all they're using.
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absolutely ... but two wrongs don't make a right and if a kid throws a tantrum to his parents - is it right that the parent throws one too? ... Frank's the elected official here - I expect him to take a higher road
i can understand getting frustrated at all the yelling and booing but when you react like this to what seems like a girl who wasn't doing that but only asked a 'stupid question' it only allows people like glenn beck who push these ideas of nazi policies (saw a youtube video of him crying over a nazi health care poster and how it made him think of his daughter with cp and others like hannity, rush....to show a seemingly calm girl asking a question then be made fun of saying 'see, this is what the democrats think of those who don't agree with them, look at how they don't even listen to their constiuents!' which will strenghen what those people already believe. if he answered calmly and respectfully what can they say?
what if this was school. what if your kid asked a question that an adult could think was silly and stupid...what if their teacher made fun of them and said things like that to them? would parents care this is how they treat the kids in that class?
i'm just saying you have a better dialogue speaking calmly and being respectful.
i don't know if there's a full video, i looked for a while and looked for a transcript but everything i found had edits and far too many were from fox news :roll:
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when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Absolutely, he could have responded better- but again- he is just a person and like anyone else. Because he is a politician, does that mean that he can not lose his cool?
He lost it and yes this does give the opposing side to use this to their advantage. Again- the clip was edited and we only see part of the video- I wonder if she was as calm throughout that exchange.
A lot of the democrats at these town hall meeting have been trying to speak calmly to the people- and what have people said- they are being weak.
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oh ... for sure ... don't get me wrong here - no one's perfect by any stretch ... my point is more generic - i see it all the time here ... it's just not this particular case ... people tune out if they hear certain words because we've been told they have only one meaning ...
It looks like she was responding back to Frank, but her mic was not on. After he asked her the what planet question- it looks like he was listening to something she said and then made the dinning room table comment.
Also her statement/question was a lot longer than just the nazi comment. And maybe she was not calmly asking/answering Frank- Don't know- the camera was not on her but on Frank.
He could have handled it better, but eh..
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Regardless what the both of you... or anyone else here... feels about Barney Frank, the politician, the person, the whatever...
What about the message he is saying? What do you guys think about what he said?
Because even if it were Dick Cheney who said this to a lunatic woman instead of Barney Frank,.. i'd still agree with the message.
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Just because you hate the messenger doesn't make the message invalid... right? Because if it does matter to you... well, with all due respect, it makes you look like partisan fools... which i'm not saying you are.... i'm just saying if that how you really feel... that's how you appear.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
to compare obama, who is trying to give health insurance to everyone and actually help people get the medical care then need and hitler who murdered indiscriminately over 6 million jews and millions of other germans, russians, brits, americans, etc that died in the war as a result of his action. there is absolutely no comparison. no comparison at all.
i think barney just got frustrated and sick of hearing this crap from the people that are so obviously brainwashed by palin, boener, grassley, and fox news that he kind of lost it. this lady deserved all that she got though. sometimes i would agree that talking to some folks around here is like arguing with the dining room table. but its all good because most of the time it makes for interesting conversation and sharing of ideas.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
It's about time the dems fight back. And it's funny that the first to fight back is a gay jew.