**The Official Tour The Southern United States Thread**

Citizen Zack

play the south

LukinFan

the south

rhinomagic

PKTrekGirl wrote:

Now...there might be one reason for skipping Atlanta, IIRC. I was not aware of it at the time because it was not related to a concert, and I was out of the country in Italy at the time it would have hit the news here in town....But I think that I read somewhere that when they were recording/mixing or whatever in Atlanta in 2009, one of the guys (Jeff, I think - it's been a while and my memory sucks) got mugged or something downtown. I'm fuzzy on the details - I can't even remember where I read it or even if it was a reliable source. But if true, I could appreciate a possible reluctance to come back here. I mean, every city has it's share of street crime...but it takes on special meaning if it happens to you in a place.

Jeff was mugged in Atlanta in 2009. I'm pretty sure they've done mixing/recording with Brendan O'Brien there on recent releases.

I believe he mentioned in an online chat w/ ESPN earlier this year that his sister lives in Atlanta. And we also know that Mike had relatives in the Tampa/St. Pete area (from a shout-out at Tampa 2003 show).

Their connections to family and friends in the south are established. It would also seem that their connections to the south include the payouts @ Bonnaroo, JazzFest, & ACLFest.

The missing link in the equation is their connections to fans in the major cities of the south.

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LukinFan

rhinomagic wrote:

PKTrekGirl wrote:

Now...there might be one reason for skipping Atlanta, IIRC. I was not aware of it at the time because it was not related to a concert, and I was out of the country in Italy at the time it would have hit the news here in town....But I think that I read somewhere that when they were recording/mixing or whatever in Atlanta in 2009, one of the guys (Jeff, I think - it's been a while and my memory sucks) got mugged or something downtown. I'm fuzzy on the details - I can't even remember where I read it or even if it was a reliable source. But if true, I could appreciate a possible reluctance to come back here. I mean, every city has it's share of street crime...but it takes on special meaning if it happens to you in a place.

Jeff was mugged in Atlanta in 2009. I'm pretty sure they've done mixing/recording with Brendan O'Brien there on recent releases.

I believe he mentioned in an online chat w/ ESPN earlier this year that his sister lives in Atlanta. And we also know that Mike had relatives in the Tampa/St. Pete area (from a shout-out at Tampa 2003 show).

Their connections to family and friends in the south are established. It would also seem that their connections to the south include the payouts @ Bonnaroo, JazzFest, & ACLFest.

The missing link in the equation is their connections to fans in the major cities of the south.

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I thought BoB said on PJ Radio that he doesn't use that studio anymore in ATL because it has a new owner or something like that. I could be wrong though

shep

rhinomagic wrote:

PKTrekGirl wrote:

Now...there might be one reason for skipping Atlanta, IIRC. I was not aware of it at the time because it was not related to a concert, and I was out of the country in Italy at the time it would have hit the news here in town....But I think that I read somewhere that when they were recording/mixing or whatever in Atlanta in 2009, one of the guys (Jeff, I think - it's been a while and my memory sucks) got mugged or something downtown. I'm fuzzy on the details - I can't even remember where I read it or even if it was a reliable source. But if true, I could appreciate a possible reluctance to come back here. I mean, every city has it's share of street crime...but it takes on special meaning if it happens to you in a place.

Jeff was mugged in Atlanta in 2009. I'm pretty sure they've done mixing/recording with Brendan O'Brien there on recent releases.

I believe he mentioned in an online chat w/ ESPN earlier this year that his sister lives in Atlanta. And we also know that Mike had relatives in the Tampa/St. Pete area (from a shout-out at Tampa 2003 show).

Their connections to family and friends in the south are established. It would also seem that their connections to the south include the payouts @ Bonnaroo, JazzFest, & ACLFest.

The missing link in the equation is their connections to fans in the major cities of the south.

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Well that studio in Atlanta is where Backspacer was either recorded or mixed... so there is clearly some kind of tie to the south there...

I like you're analysis there... Don't understand why their connections to fans in the south would be any different then their connections to fans in the north... all perceptions I guess....

rhinomagic

LukinFan wrote:

rhinomagic wrote:

PKTrekGirl wrote:

Now...there might be one reason for skipping Atlanta, IIRC. I was not aware of it at the time because it was not related to a concert, and I was out of the country in Italy at the time it would have hit the news here in town....But I think that I read somewhere that when they were recording/mixing or whatever in Atlanta in 2009, one of the guys (Jeff, I think - it's been a while and my memory sucks) got mugged or something downtown. I'm fuzzy on the details - I can't even remember where I read it or even if it was a reliable source. But if true, I could appreciate a possible reluctance to come back here. I mean, every city has it's share of street crime...but it takes on special meaning if it happens to you in a place.

Jeff was mugged in Atlanta in 2009. I'm pretty sure they've done mixing/recording with Brendan O'Brien there on recent releases.

I believe he mentioned in an online chat w/ ESPN earlier this year that his sister lives in Atlanta. And we also know that Mike had relatives in the Tampa/St. Pete area (from a shout-out at Tampa 2003 show).

Their connections to family and friends in the south are established. It would also seem that their connections to the south include the payouts @ Bonnaroo, JazzFest, & ACLFest.

The missing link in the equation is their connections to fans in the major cities of the south.

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I thought BoB said on PJ Radio that he doesn't use that studio anymore in ATL because it has a new owner or something like that. I could be wrong though

I missed that interview. I know they mixed some of the greatest hits album there & USA Today reported PJ was recording in Atlanta at the time of the mugging.

It's entirely possible O'Brien no longer uses the studio, as the incident was 2 years ago.

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justam

I won't even hazard a guess as to what's going with the lack of attention given to the South anymore.

It only concerns me because I used to live in NY (where they played a lot) and since I've moved down here I have noticed that it's a real problem for the people that live down here! It doesn't seem fair and it alienates potentially good and loyal fans. :geek:

Maybe it's all about money or maybe it's something entirely irrational that we can't even guess?! :shock:

I'm hoping they'll surprise us and stop here when they go down to South America in the Fall.

Flagg

Judging by the rumors (Canada and South America) and the way the Soundgarden tour played out, I wouldn't bet on it.

Citizen Zack

please play the south

its just gish

justam wrote:

I won't even hazard a guess as to what's going with the lack of attention given to the South anymore.

It only concerns me because I used to live in NY (where they played a lot) and since I've moved down here I have noticed that it's a real problem for the people that live down here! It doesn't seem fair and it alienates potentially good and loyal fans. :geek:

Maybe it's all about money or maybe it's something entirely irrational that we can't even guess?! :shock:

I'm hoping they'll surprise us and stop here when they go down to South America in the Fall.

I think we're all hoping they do that, hell I could even wait until Spring 2012 if it was certain they would come down here. I really hope it's something irrational, and they do know how long it has been since Ed mentioned it at ACL, and got the most deserving response to that, I think. Whatever their reason, it really has alienated a lot of us.

Citizen Zack

houston

shep

Citizen Zack wrote:

houston

4th biggest city in the US.... with 2 other major cities of almost equal population (Dallas and San Antonio) within 4 hours drive...

18 Million people within about 300 miles..... and you really think you'd have trouble selling out 2 or 3 shows in this area??

PLAY THE FUCKING SOUTH!

Better Dan

shep wrote:

Citizen Zack wrote:

houston

4th biggest city in the US.... with 2 other major cities of almost equal population (Dallas and San Antonio) within 4 hours drive...

18 Million people within about 300 miles..... and you really think you'd have trouble selling out 2 or 3 shows in this area??

PLAY THE FUCKING SOUTH!

Well put!

conman

play the south

dgerlach720

I'm making my wish/bet now (AND HOPING IT COMES TRUE)..... two festival shows in Florida:

One stop at Langerado and the next at Deluna Fest in Pensacola..... this is based on no fact, rumor, friend of the band, cousin of the band, etc. Just a hunch

Plus I'm betting we will hear something after either the ACL or Langerado announcement (5/17 or 6/1)

rhinomagic

shep wrote:

Citizen Zack wrote:

houston

4th biggest city in the US.... with 2 other major cities of almost equal population (Dallas and San Antonio) within 4 hours drive...

18 Million people within about 300 miles..... and you really think you'd have trouble selling out 2 or 3 shows in this area??

PLAY THE FUCKING SOUTH!

Give 'em hell, shep.

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LukinFan

rhinomagic wrote:

shep wrote:

Citizen Zack wrote:

houston

4th biggest city in the US.... with 2 other major cities of almost equal population (Dallas and San Antonio) within 4 hours drive...

18 Million people within about 300 miles..... and you really think you'd have trouble selling out 2 or 3 shows in this area??

PLAY THE FUCKING SOUTH!

Give 'em hell, shep.

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shep

rhinomagic wrote:

shep wrote:

Citizen Zack wrote:

houston

4th biggest city in the US.... with 2 other major cities of almost equal population (Dallas and San Antonio) within 4 hours drive...

18 Million people within about 300 miles..... and you really think you'd have trouble selling out 2 or 3 shows in this area??

PLAY THE FUCKING SOUTH!

Give 'em hell, shep.

.

Well, when are we going to start getting angry??

JH57554

shep wrote:

So, I have to ask:

Does anyone else that lives in the south take this boycott as a complete show of disrespect to PJ's own fans on behalf of the band?

Cause I'm starting to feel that way about it, and it's starting to change how I feel about this band as a whole. As much as I love their music, to treat fans that have made you millions upon millions dollars in this manner shows me that it's no longer about us...

I mean when it comes down to it, this band always likes to talk about how their live shows are everything, but what does really mean when the band only tours 3 weeks of the year and refuses to play shows in some of the most populous areas of their own country?

I pretty much totally agree with this post. I'm in Atlanta and we haven't had a local PJ show since 03. Since then I've traveled to Washington D.C (03 & 06), Kissimmeee, FL (04), Asheville, NC (04), Cincinnati, OH (06), San Francisco (06), Chicago, Il (07 & 09), Columbia, SC (08) & Virginia Beach, VA (08) to see shows and, frankly, I'm just not feeling the desire to travel and shell out tons of money to see the band anymore. I hate it, though, because PJ's been my absolute favorite band for 20 years, but that's just how I feel right now. I'm sure as soon as they announce some shows that are even remotely do-able for me, I'll change my mind and hit the road again like an abused lover who just keeps going back

Sorry if this post seems extra whiny, but I just wanted to get this off my chest in a thread where I think there are probably a few sympathizers. The two Vedder solo shows in Atlanta in June 09 were great, though, so I have to give him (or his tour router) credit for that.

Citizen Zack

houston & dallas please