Chemtrails: Conspiracy "Theory" No Longer

DriftingByTheStorm

This is old news in conspiracy circles, but looking at some videos i haven't seen and thought i'd pass it on.

Local News Station Confirms Barium Salts In Chemtrails
High level barium exposure can lead to depletion of immune function.
And boy wouldn't that go hand in hand with a pandemic illness and mass casualties (ie. population reduction) ?

Here is a link to a PDF Summary of a Council on Foreign Relations Symposium on Global Geo-engineering which proves that the CFR is actively involved in discussing chemtrail like phenomena, as witnessed in the FIRST line of the summary:
"There are a variety of strategies, such as injecting light-reflecting particles into the stratosphere...

Hmm.
Curious.
The CFR is thinking about injecting the atmosphere with tiny particles?
Hmm.

Actual Photographs of a Chemtrail Plane's Equipment - Inside & Out ... crazy shit.

German Expose on German Military Chemtrails

This one is actually my favorite, because it shows in one single camera shot the difference between what anyone who remembers as pre-millenium "contrails" and the new "chemtrails". Remember when trails behind planes actually used to DISAPPEAR in short order? Nope. Not anymore. Why is that?
Chemtrails vs. contrails

So,
i guess the question i would pose, is
does this disturb anyone here?

Unfortunately, i'm pretty sure i can guess the average response.
"Dude, the government is just trying to save you from death by manipulating the weather so that you can live your life in bliss. They just don't want to tell you, because you would freak out. Don't you know about the global warmings?"

Yeah, thats right.
Everything is cool, as long as it is for the environment.
Right?

NoK

What is sad is that even in this they are incompetent. Surely, using the water systems to spread a salt is much more effective.

Commy

whats the point of the chemtrails?


its fucked up if its true, but what are they dumping on us?

DriftingByTheStorm

NoK wrote:

What is sad is that even in this they are incompetent. Surely, using the water systems to spread a salt is much more effective.

Silly,

the water is for the fluoride, and the anti-depressants to make you docile.

The chemtrails are for god knows what.
Publicly, they have admitted (in limited soundbites) that they are doing this for the sake of combating global warming.

What they are REALLY doing with all that shit, god (and the elite intelligence agencies) only knows.

DriftingByTheStorm

i'd like to divert to this video which shows this kid with his history book in better visual rendering than i had seen previously.

This is one of my favorites.
Proof that they are in "decloaking" mode, or to put it another way, it is time for the "conspiracy" to be put to bed by simply spoon feeding it to the children as historical fact.

Oh no. It's not a conspiracy.
Its just how the world works, sonny.

49 Second Mark: "America in the New World Order" double page spread in a middle school history book

Hillarious.
Or scary as hell.
Bah!

NoK

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

NoK wrote:

What is sad is that even in this they are incompetent. Surely, using the water systems to spread a salt is much more effective.

Silly,

the water is for the fluoride, and the anti-depressants to make you docile.

The chemtrails are for god knows what.
Publicly, they have admitted (in limited soundbites) that they are doing this for the sake of combating global warming.

What they are REALLY doing with all that shit, god (and the elite intelligence agencies) only knows.

Hey at least the anti-depressants will make you better in bed.. as for who knows I don't even think God is in on it.. he/she is probably trying to find out too

TravisTheSky

A few months ago, I looked out the window to find the sky above Los Angeles filled with endless parallell lines of chemtrails/vapourtrails. It made me shudder. If it had been some sort of skywriting, there would have been an obvious message or picture. Since I couldn't judge the distance from the ground, I couldn't tell how many miles apart the lines were. They were situated in the east-west position. At least two dozen white lines were visible to me. It was a medium clearish day, they sky was blue instead of grey or beige. As far as I looked to each side, there was another trail. As far as I looked east (my windows face east) I could not see the beginning. On many afternoons, I notice multiple trails. But none so deliberate and baffling as that day!

Two problems about the mass-poison theory: 1. The trails are visible to millions. Why not simply make them clear instead of white? Common folks are much less likely to raise a fuss about that which can't be seen.
2. If the chemicals blanket giant metropolises, they are affecting everyone. Even the people who make and spread the poison. Even their beloved children, parents, aunties, grandmas, and pets. They can use expensive filters to make the water that they drink pure. But they can't avoid ever taking a breath of outside air.

WaveCameCrashin

Another great post by Drifting There are chem trails all over the sky where I live,especially in the morning, I've listened to several shows on this subject on coast to coast and it's some real freaky shit. At first I thought it was some just crazy conspiracy shit and they were just talking about con trails.

Kel Varnsen

The whole idea of poison or something in airplane condensation trails has to probably be one of the craziest theories on the entire internet. I mean how is it possible to ignore the fact that wings of a plane can create low pressure areas behind them and when you drop pressure, water vapour in the air forms condensation (it is really very basic science). It is the same reason why when the weather channel talks about low pressure systems, it means clouds. Plus if someone wanted to use planes to posion people wouldn't narrow, visible trails high in the atmosphere that don't seem to fall be the worst way to do it. I mean if you ever see a crop duster, it flies relatively low and does a wide spray of whatever it is dropping, not a narrow line. Why not do it that way? Plus like TravisTheSky, said if these evil people who want to posion society are behind this, and they are smart enough to come up with this plan, wouldn't they be smart enough to make a posion that is not visible?

ledvedderman

Kel Varnsen wrote:

The whole idea of poison or something in airplane condensation trails has to probably be one of the craziest theories on the entire internet. I mean how is it possible to ignore the fact that wings of a plane can create low pressure areas behind them and when you drop pressure, water vapour in the air forms condensation (it is really very basic science). It is the same reason why when the weather channel talks about low pressure systems, it means clouds. Plus if someone wanted to use planes to posion people wouldn't narrow, visible trails high in the atmosphere that don't seem to fall be the worst way to do it. I mean if you ever see a crop duster, it flies relatively low and does a wide spray of whatever it is dropping, not a narrow line. Why not do it that way? Plus like TravisTheSky, said if these evil people who want to posion society are behind this, and they are smart enough to come up with this plan, wouldn't they be smart enough to make a posion that is not visible?

I like this guy

cincybearcat

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Plus like TravisTheSky, said if these evil people who want to posion society are behind this, and they are smart enough to come up with this plan, wouldn't they be smart enough to make a posion that is not visible?

C'mon now...where's the fun in that?

blackredyellow

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Plus like TravisTheSky, said if these evil people who want to posion society are behind this, and they are smart enough to come up with this plan, wouldn't they be smart enough to make a posion that is not visible?

Be cause "they" want to taunt us with their evil, poison-filled, killing machines... duh...

Pepe Silvia

thanks for posting these. i liked that the first 1 mentions how the senate found the government had tested biological agents on unknowing citizens over 200 times. there was also a case in Canada decades ago over the performing tests on people, too.

is there any official response by whoever is flying those routes?

megatron

*shaking head*

DriftingByTheStorm

Kel Varnsen wrote:

The whole idea of poison or something in airplane condensation trails has to probably be one of the craziest theories on the entire internet. I mean how is it possible to ignore the fact that wings of a plane can create low pressure areas behind them and when you drop pressure, water vapour in the air forms condensation (it is really very basic science). It is the same reason why when the weather channel talks about low pressure systems, it means clouds. Plus if someone wanted to use planes to posion people wouldn't narrow, visible trails high in the atmosphere that don't seem to fall be the worst way to do it. I mean if you ever see a crop duster, it flies relatively low and does a wide spray of whatever it is dropping, not a narrow line. Why not do it that way? Plus like TravisTheSky, said if these evil people who want to posion society are behind this, and they are smart enough to come up with this plan, wouldn't they be smart enough to make a posion that is not visible?

Dude.
I think everyone gets the idea of CON-TRAILS.

What chemtrail proponents would like to know is WHY DO TRAILS IN THE LAST TEN YEARS LAST HUNDREDS OF TIMES LONGER and SPREAD OUT TO FORM CLOUDS?

Did you not see the video in the OP of the guy who is filming TWO PLANES AT THE SAME ALTITUDE AT THE SAME TIME, and one has a trail that dissapears in about 15 seconds, while the other one is lasting the ENTIRE time he has the camera on?

How do you explain that?
One plane has 92 octane and the other has 87?


Maybe they ARE just SUPER-CON-TRAILS,
but i already posted you a link to a Council on Foreign Relations PDF where they are SERIOULSY CONSIDERING WEATHER MODFICATION BY SUSPENDED PARTICLES RELEASED BY AIRPLANES.

Go to page 4 of that document for the SPECIFIC mention of airplanes as a method of disbursement.

???

Pepe Silvia

maybe the barium is fairy dust?

weenie

When I worked for FEMA here in Austin - there were over 3000 of us housed in an old JC Penney building. Since we worked 12 hours a day 7 days a week, we would often go outside intermittently for some fresh air. The smokers were always there too and everyone just chatted about shit until time to go back in.

One day there was a criss-cross pattern, like a checkerboard, of what I called CON trails. Wondering why they were in a criss-cross pattern, I said something out loud. I was told that what I was seeing were CHEM trails and no one really knew what the trails contained, but everyone had their own theory.

This criss-cross patterning across the sky continued to be created every day for about a week then abruptly stopped. A few weeks later, they would appear again. This went on for about 4 months. Since then, I have met other people in Austin who recall the incident - mainly because the criss-cross pattern was so unusual. There were no air shows in the area etc. at the time.

Whoever it was, and whatever they were doing, was deliberate. Whether it was the dispersal of something to affect weather, something to make us all calm, something to make us all sick, I don't know. But clearly it was deliberate and many people witnessed it over a 3 - 4 month period of time.

Austin is by no means a large metropolis. If "they", whoever they are, were doing "IT" here, they must be doing "IT" everywhere. I wish to hell I knew WHAT "THEY" were doing....... :evil:

weenie

Heres' some more information that I believe is relevant.....

When I posted yesterday, I didn't have the time to look at the videos/read the other info that Drifting had posted. I went back this morning to read/look through it and was struck by what one person said about the stomach pain.

When you work in a building with 3000 people for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week under strict rules over a period of a 5 month period, certain "anomalies" become apparent. Particularly illness. Whole groups of people who didn't necessarily work in the same location of the building, (which was 2 story) became sick with stomach ailments and headaches.

This, in itself is not unusual for large buildings housed with workers, however, what was so striking about it was that it occurred immediately. In other words, there was not time to spread the illness between departments, everyone became sick at once. Sometimes, it was just the smokers - who were going outside 6 - 8 times a day for a cig. The illness occurred repeatedly every 4 - 6 weeks and was always stomach and head related. It didn't hit me because I didn't go outside much. I can't stand cigarette smoke. And the sickness did not appear to be contagious.

I don't consider myself an alarmist, or a conspiracy theorist, but I do know what I observed over that 5 months. Seeing all the info Drifting posted in this thread just confirms what many of us were thinking at the time, the correlation we saw between the appearance of the chemtrails and the illnesses.

Perhaps the govt was using we FEMA folks as a giant petri dish......... :shock:
Stranger things have happened.

Pepe Silvia

weenie wrote:

Heres' some more information that I believe is relevant.....

When I posted yesterday, I didn't have the time to look at the videos/read the other info that Drifting had posted. I went back this morning to read/look through it and was struck by what one person said about the stomach pain.

When you work in a building with 3000 people for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week under strict rules over a period of a 5 month period, certain "anomalies" become apparent. Particularly illness. Whole groups of people who didn't necessarily work in the same location of the building, (which was 2 story) became sick with stomach ailments and headaches.

This, in itself is not unusual for large buildings housed with workers, however, what was so striking about it was that it occurred immediately. In other words, there was not time to spread the illness between departments, everyone became sick at once. Sometimes, it was just the smokers - who were going outside 6 - 8 times a day for a cig. The illness occurred repeatedly every 4 - 6 weeks and was always stomach and head related. It didn't hit me because I didn't go outside much. I can't stand cigarette smoke. And the sickness did not appear to be contagious.

I don't consider myself an alarmist, or a conspiracy theorist, but I do know what I observed over that 5 months. Seeing all the info Drifting posted in this thread just confirms what many of us were thinking at the time, the correlation we saw between the appearance of the chemtrails and the illnesses.

Perhaps the govt was using we FEMA folks as a giant petri dish......... :shock:
Stranger things have happened.

at least 1 of the 200+ known incidents of testing biological agents on the public involved an elementary school. others the subway.....they don't care

weenie

I heart Scout Niblett wrote:

weenie wrote:

Heres' some more information that I believe is relevant.....

When I posted yesterday, I didn't have the time to look at the videos/read the other info that Drifting had posted. I went back this morning to read/look through it and was struck by what one person said about the stomach pain.

When you work in a building with 3000 people for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week under strict rules over a period of a 5 month period, certain "anomalies" become apparent. Particularly illness. Whole groups of people who didn't necessarily work in the same location of the building, (which was 2 story) became sick with stomach ailments and headaches.

This, in itself is not unusual for large buildings housed with workers, however, what was so striking about it was that it occurred immediately. In other words, there was not time to spread the illness between departments, everyone became sick at once. Sometimes, it was just the smokers - who were going outside 6 - 8 times a day for a cig. The illness occurred repeatedly every 4 - 6 weeks and was always stomach and head related. It didn't hit me because I didn't go outside much. I can't stand cigarette smoke. And the sickness did not appear to be contagious.

I don't consider myself an alarmist, or a conspiracy theorist, but I do know what I observed over that 5 months. Seeing all the info Drifting posted in this thread just confirms what many of us were thinking at the time, the correlation we saw between the appearance of the chemtrails and the illnesses.

Perhaps the govt was using we FEMA folks as a giant petri dish......... :shock:
Stranger things have happened.

at least 1 of the 200+ known incidents of testing biological agents on the public involved an elementary school. others the subway.....they don't care

Since we were working for a federal agency, maybe they figured that gave them the right. They did pay us a shitload of money to be there 12 hrs a day, 7 days a week afterall......... :?

NoK

weenie wrote:

Since we were working for a federal agency, maybe they figured that gave them the right. They did pay us a shitload of money to be there 12 hrs a day, 7 days a week afterall......... :?

Taking the theory a step further.. having you there for 12 hrs a day 7 days a week would be their way of monitoring the progression and whatever you were actually doing inside was a cover to keep you occupied.

Pepe Silvia

NoK wrote:

weenie wrote:

Since we were working for a federal agency, maybe they figured that gave them the right. They did pay us a shitload of money to be there 12 hrs a day, 7 days a week afterall......... :?

Taking the theory a step further.. having you there for 12 hrs a day 7 days a week would be their way of monitoring the progression and whatever you were actually doing inside was a cover to keep you occupied.

i remember seeing something about a guy who developed cancer, he says from exposure working long hours/days at area 51 and had his court case dismissed because you can't sue the federal government and area 51 doesn't officially exist

weenie

When you work as an intermittent employee of the Federal Government, you are barely one step up from slave labor. Not only are you unable to sue the Federal Government, they weren't required to provide workers compensation insurance coverage for us. They also made up their own rules about overtime and holiday pay. Don't get me wrong, we were paid well, for our 84 (YES 84) hours per week, but the way they calculated overtime, especially around holidays, was mind boggling. If we worked 12 hours on a holiday, and often we did, they were not required to pay us overtime for the extra four hours. Don't ask me to explain it, I argued with them time and again and I STILL don't get it. :shock:

arthurdent

I heart Scout Niblett wrote:

i remember seeing something about a guy who developed cancer, he says from exposure working long hours/days at area 51 and had his court case dismissed because you can't sue the federal government and area 51 doesn't officially exist

I hear working with Dr. Manhattan has the same effect :roll:

DriftingByTheStorm

arthurdent wrote:

I heart Scout Niblett wrote:

i remember seeing something about a guy who developed cancer, he says from exposure working long hours/days at area 51 and had his court case dismissed because you can't sue the federal government and area 51 doesn't officially exist

I hear working with Dr. Manhattan has the same effect :roll:

You can roll your eyes at chemtrails all day long for what i care,
but you are rolling your eyes now at someone who developed cancer and may die thanks to their loyal service to their country? And in trying to right a wrong, they receive a slap in the face from the same?

THAT i take offense to.
My longtime girlfriend's father is dead.
He worked for the NTSB for almost his entire life.
He was a high level investigator for air crashes,
and he developed an extremely rare form of leukemia that the doctors suspect he got from exposure to specific haz-mat materials that came from working around a GOVERNMENT airplane crash.

The government totally fucked him, and his wife, along with his 3 children.
All she got was a lousy two-bit monthly check that amounts to squat.
No apology. No payout. No nothing. Just a small fraction of his salary.
A drop in the bucket.

His family received a life time of deprivation from their father.
And my girlfriend is permanently traumatized from changing her own dad's bed pan, wiping his ass, and watching him die in inglorious fashion for simply doing his job for his country.

If you think the US government doesn't shrug off responsibility for their own fuck ups more often than not, you are seriously avoiding the truth.

I don't even understand what the fuck you're rolling your eyes at.
But without meaning to you have done a good job of getting me boiled.

nice job.

TriumphantAngel

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

I heart Scout Niblett wrote:

i remember seeing something about a guy who developed cancer, he says from exposure working long hours/days at area 51 and had his court case dismissed because you can't sue the federal government and area 51 doesn't officially exist

I hear working with Dr. Manhattan has the same effect :roll:

You can roll your eyes at chemtrails all day long for what i care,
but you are rolling your eyes now at someone who developed cancer and may die thanks to their loyal service to their country? And in trying to right a wrong, they receive a slap in the face from the same?

THAT i take offense to.
My longtime girlfriend's father is dead.
He worked for the NTSB for almost his entire life.
He was a high level investigator for air crashes,
and he developed an extremely rare form of leukemia that the doctors suspect he got from exposure to specific haz-mat materials that came from working around a GOVERNMENT airplane crash.

The government totally fucked him, and his wife, along with his 3 children.
All she got was a lousy two-bit monthly check that amounts to squat.
No apology. No payout. No nothing. Just a small fraction of his salary.
A drop in the bucket.

His family received a life time of deprivation from their father.
And my girlfriend is permanently traumatized from changing her own dad's bed pan, wiping his ass, and watching him die in inglorious fashion for simply doing his job for his country.

If you think the US government doesn't shrug off responsibility for their own fuck ups more often than not, you are seriously avoiding the truth.

I don't even understand what the fuck you're rolling your eyes at.
But without meaning to you have done a good job of getting me boiled.

nice job.

That's awful drifting. I'm sorry you and your girl, and her family are going through that.

arthurdent

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

I heart Scout Niblett wrote:

i remember seeing something about a guy who developed cancer, he says from exposure working long hours/days at area 51 and had his court case dismissed because you can't sue the federal government and area 51 doesn't officially exist

I hear working with Dr. Manhattan has the same effect :roll:

You can roll your eyes at chemtrails all day long for what i care,
but you are rolling your eyes now at someone who developed cancer and may die thanks to their loyal service to their country? And in trying to right a wrong, they receive a slap in the face from the same?

THAT i take offense to.
My longtime girlfriend's father is dead.
He worked for the NTSB for almost his entire life.
He was a high level investigator for air crashes,
and he developed an extremely rare form of leukemia that the doctors suspect he got from exposure to specific haz-mat materials that came from working around a GOVERNMENT airplane crash.

The government totally fucked him, and his wife, along with his 3 children.
All she got was a lousy two-bit monthly check that amounts to squat.
No apology. No payout. No nothing. Just a small fraction of his salary.
A drop in the bucket.

His family received a life time of deprivation from their father.
And my girlfriend is permanently traumatized from changing her own dad's bed pan, wiping his ass, and watching him die in inglorious fashion for simply doing his job for his country.

If you think the US government doesn't shrug off responsibility for their own fuck ups more often than not, you are seriously avoiding the truth.

I don't even understand what the fuck you're rolling your eyes at.
But without meaning to you have done a good job of getting me boiled.

nice job.

wow! the sympathy card. well played. Now, if I continue to beat you upside the head with my clue-by-four I'll just come across as a bigger ass than the one I really am. Having dealt with my own mother's disability for the past 10 years, I can certainly sympathize with what your girlfriend has gone through. But let's not cloud the issue of your mythical "chemtrails" with that, shall we. We're talking apples and oranges here.

arthurdent

weenie wrote:

One day there was a criss-cross pattern, like a checkerboard, of what I called CON trails. Wondering why they were in a criss-cross pattern, I said something out loud. I was told that what I was seeing were CHEM trails and no one really knew what the trails contained, but everyone had their own theory.

This criss-cross patterning across the sky continued to be created every day for about a week then abruptly stopped. A few weeks later, they would appear again. This went on for about 4 months. Since then, I have met other people in Austin who recall the incident - mainly because the criss-cross pattern was so unusual. There were no air shows in the area etc. at the time.

Whoever it was, and whatever they were doing, was deliberate. Whether it was the dispersal of something to affect weather, something to make us all calm, something to make us all sick, I don't know. But clearly it was deliberate and many people witnessed it over a 3 - 4 month period of time.

or it could have been nothing more than pesticides to control mosquitos... which tend to multiply in standing water. Like after a HURRICANE, for example. You know, I've heard that malaria can be a pretty nasty little bug. :roll:

weenie

arthurdent wrote:

weenie wrote:

One day there was a criss-cross pattern, like a checkerboard, of what I called CON trails. Wondering why they were in a criss-cross pattern, I said something out loud. I was told that what I was seeing were CHEM trails and no one really knew what the trails contained, but everyone had their own theory.

This criss-cross patterning across the sky continued to be created every day for about a week then abruptly stopped. A few weeks later, they would appear again. This went on for about 4 months. Since then, I have met other people in Austin who recall the incident - mainly because the criss-cross pattern was so unusual. There were no air shows in the area etc. at the time.

Whoever it was, and whatever they were doing, was deliberate. Whether it was the dispersal of something to affect weather, something to make us all calm, something to make us all sick, I don't know. But clearly it was deliberate and many people witnessed it over a 3 - 4 month period of time.

or it could have been nothing more than pesticides to control mosquitos... which tend to multiply in standing water. Like after a HURRICANE, for example. You know, I've heard that malaria can be a pretty nasty little bug. :roll:

Could be. I'd be surprised to see mosquitos hatching in 30 - 40 degree weather though. :roll:

NoK

weenie wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

weenie wrote:

One day there was a criss-cross pattern, like a checkerboard, of what I called CON trails. Wondering why they were in a criss-cross pattern, I said something out loud. I was told that what I was seeing were CHEM trails and no one really knew what the trails contained, but everyone had their own theory.

This criss-cross patterning across the sky continued to be created every day for about a week then abruptly stopped. A few weeks later, they would appear again. This went on for about 4 months. Since then, I have met other people in Austin who recall the incident - mainly because the criss-cross pattern was so unusual. There were no air shows in the area etc. at the time.

Whoever it was, and whatever they were doing, was deliberate. Whether it was the dispersal of something to affect weather, something to make us all calm, something to make us all sick, I don't know. But clearly it was deliberate and many people witnessed it over a 3 - 4 month period of time.

or it could have been nothing more than pesticides to control mosquitos... which tend to multiply in standing water. Like after a HURRICANE, for example. You know, I've heard that malaria can be a pretty nasty little bug. :roll:

Could be. I'd be surprised to see mosquitos hatching in 30 - 40 degree weather though. :roll:

What is funny is that he/she thinks it is a normal thing to spray a city full of people with pesticides to control mosquitos. Like pesticides haven't been shown to cause say cancer, immunodeficiency disorders and ... so on and so forth..

weenie

NoK wrote:

weenie wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

or it could have been nothing more than pesticides to control mosquitos... which tend to multiply in standing water. Like after a HURRICANE, for example. You know, I've heard that malaria can be a pretty nasty little bug. :roll:

Could be. I'd be surprised to see mosquitos hatching in 30 - 40 degree weather though. :roll:

What is funny is that he/she thinks it is a normal thing to spray a city full of people with pesticides to control mosquitos. Like pesticides haven't been shown to cause say cancer, immunodeficiency disorders and ... so on and so forth..

Tru Dat!