Bad things were said of Eddie

mook
mook Posts: 78
edited August 2009 in The Porch
This sucks:

http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/46417-dolores-oriordan-no-baggage

Dolores O'Riordan - No Baggage

In a weird way, former Cranberries frontwoman Dorlores O'Riordan has something in common with Eddie Vedder, her crooning being as divisive as Vedder's grunge-yodelling. Just as Vedder's pipes limit the sort of music he can perform, so O'Riordan seems predestined to restlessly pace around the same musical patch; calling her album No Baggage is almost too desperate, suggestive of a hint of underlying neurosis. Her sophomore solo effort, however, spends little time on the psychoanalyst's couch, kicking off with a couple of pop songs (Switch of the Moment and Skeleton) that are so polite on the ears that they could easily have been recorded for Melanie Chisholm, if it wasn't for O'Riordan's husky Irish growl slathered all over them. As No Baggage progresses though, it blossoms, and the penultimate piano track Lunatic and Coldplay-like Tranquilizer suggest that once Dolores has stopped trying to write 'chart-topping songs', the real music can begin.
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  • MFC9289
    MFC9289 Posts: 144
    who cares
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    He is limited on what he can sing. His range has diminished considerably. The strain is obviously there on PJ's faster songs, and is now creeping into their midtempo songs. Oh well, that's what age, smoking, and years of singing your guts out will do to you. Luckily, we've got years of Eddie solo tours to look forward to, as well as Pearl Jam. I'm not saying I don't enjoy the songs, but Ed's booming vocals are gone.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    maybe i'm crazy, but i don't think his vocals sound bad at all.
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  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    while eddie is a dynamic and hypnotic frontman, I dont think ed is a chris cornell or robert plant either. I dont think ed think he has much range either. That doesnt mean the music isnt good though
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,596
    The strain is obviously there on PJ's faster songs, and is now creeping into their midtempo songs

    True.

    Still rocking the accoustic songs though.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    I don't get where anything bad is said. Divisive just means that it either bothers people and they don't listen to PJ or they like it and it's one of the reasons they like/tolerate PJ.

    The part about limiting what he can sing...... That's just a matter of opinion, though it kinda does. He's not gonna be doing anything that requires really technically minded singing.
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,410
    mfc2006 wrote:
    maybe i'm crazy, but i don't think his vocals sound bad at all.

    They're not bad, they're just not as hot as they were on Ten - Vitalogy
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    mfc2006 wrote:
    maybe i'm crazy, but i don't think his vocals sound bad at all.

    +1
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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    mook wrote:
    This sucks:

    http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/46417-dolores-oriordan-no-baggage

    Dolores O'Riordan - No Baggage

    In a weird way, former Cranberries frontwoman Dorlores O'Riordan has something in common with Eddie Vedder, her crooning being as divisive as Vedder's grunge-yodelling. Just as Vedder's pipes limit the sort of music he can perform, so O'Riordan seems predestined to restlessly pace around the same musical patch; calling her album No Baggage is almost too desperate, suggestive of a hint of underlying neurosis. Her sophomore solo effort, however, spends little time on the psychoanalyst's couch, kicking off with a couple of pop songs (Switch of the Moment and Skeleton) that are so polite on the ears that they could easily have been recorded for Melanie Chisholm, if it wasn't for O'Riordan's husky Irish growl slathered all over them. As No Baggage progresses though, it blossoms, and the penultimate piano track Lunatic and Coldplay-like Tranquilizer suggest that once Dolores has stopped trying to write 'chart-topping songs', the real music can begin.

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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    To be completely honest, I never considered Ed as much of a singer. he doesn't have much technical ablities and sure as hell is no Chris Cornell. Its really the sound of his voice and stage presence that makes him such an amazing singer.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    If you don't think Ed's voice is kind of divisive among music fans, you need to talk to... people. I know as many people that hate him and his voice as think he's a decent singer.

    I think Ed's voice is still plenty good, but I do think a lot of the music they've been making doesn't put it to very good use. He sounded great at Benaroya and ITW. Not so good on the faster, punky tunes like Got Some. I think they ought to listen to the last Tragically Hip album to see how a band manages to play to the strengths of a lead singer who doesn't have the kind of power he once did. They did a great job building an album around songs Gord could really do justice to rather than forcing a bunch of hard rock songs that end up sounding bad due to vocal performances that can't cut it.
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    He is limited on what he can sing. His range has diminished considerably. The strain is obviously there on PJ's faster songs, and is now creeping into their midtempo songs. Oh well, that's what age, smoking, and years of singing your guts out will do to you. Luckily, we've got years of Eddie solo tours to look forward to, as well as Pearl Jam. I'm not saying I don't enjoy the songs, but Ed's booming vocals are gone.
    yahh... still love the guy but its hard to argue otherwise

    ed needs to follow chris' lead and do whatever he did to get his vocals back in top form... quitting smoking is probably a big part of that... not that any of us have a right to tell him what to do... but i think it should be a priority (for music and for the sake of his growing family)

    as much as he looks up to bob dylan i dont want him to sound anything like old dylan 20 years from now
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  • redeye
    redeye Posts: 620
    you only have to listen to early boots to see eds voice aint quite as good...
    but in his prime, for me, he blew away most..
  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,672
    eddie's phrasing is unmatched......
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    PJammer4life wrote:
    eddie's phrasing is unmatched......

    What does that even mean?
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    I'm going to be honest, but it took me a while to get into Pearl Jam waay back in 1993.

    Why?

    I couldn't stand Eddie's voice. It bugged the hell out of me.

    Eventually I connected, and now rarely will listen to anything not done by him. I love his vocals now.

    I'm not surprised so many people think he sucks.
  • CitizenRick
    CitizenRick Posts: 1,079
    Laughable! This must be a joke thread. Eddie Vedder sings like no other. Have you heard Reign or' Me? Does he have the operatic tones of Chris Cornell? no...but even Cornell sounds less than his old self. Nobody has the true richness and honesty in their voice then Ed does in music today.

    He can bring the heat anytime he wants. As for the "he doesn't have the power (deep baritone) anymore" people... listen to Long Nights from ITW and the new clip (ATW) from Backspacer.

    He just saves himself these days.
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    CitizenRick wrote:
    the new clip (ATW) from Backspacer.
    theres a clip of amongst the waves out now??

    i was at lolla all weekend so im sure im out of the loop
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  • tcaporale
    tcaporale Posts: 1,577
    Eddie's voice was one of the things that drew me to Pearl Jam.

    Of course, I'm a major Radiohead fanboy as well, and lots of people hate Thom Yorke's voice, too. I guess vocals don't bother me as much as they do to other people.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Kilgore_Trout wrote:
    CitizenRick wrote:
    the new clip (ATW) from Backspacer.
    theres a clip of amongst the waves out now??

    i was at lolla all weekend so im sure im out of the loop
    http://www.wcyt.org/content/amongstthewavesclip.mp3

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